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Your story hold so many similarities to my EUC adventures that it could almost have been me writing it. I started a little earlier but I had almost pandemic lock down to the sofa or bed due to bad knees and aching pain in many joints due to rheumatism. 

There is something very joyful to read your story. As it brings me back to reflect on mine and what a epic life changing decision this has been for me too. 

And we are not alone about this. We also see more finding their way to find inspiration from stories like yours. And that it the great thing about storytelling. 

I hope you keep enjoying this for years to come @Scottie

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15 hours ago, Scottie said:

One year ago (3 months after my 1st 16X sighting) a 16X arrived at my door

and now it has 6 siblings?!:wub: 

Way to go! (I'm just jealous because I want to try all those wheels but don't dare... I have a difficult time resisting the "buy now" button)

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3 minutes ago, Tawpie said:

and now it has 6 siblings?!:wub: 

Way to go! (I'm just jealous because I want to try all those wheels but don't dare... I have a difficult time resisting the "buy now" button)

That sound like a new story is making its way. 

With new siblings 😊

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5 hours ago, Unventor said:

That sound like a new story is making its way. 

With new siblings 😊

@Tawpie You have my respect for being able to resist the "Buy Now" button this long. :efefe00999: But the button does not stop beckoning. How much longer can you hold out? I am weak and get sucked right in.

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On 1/19/2021 at 10:50 PM, Scottie said:

Million-To-One

Last night I rode the 18XL to my local drug store at 11pm to pick up some supplies. A teenager approached me as I was standing outside with the wheel and putting my purchases in my coat pockets, preparing to leave. He was curious about the wheel and wanted to know where to get one, so we spoke a couple minutes about it.

Shortly after the teenager left, a man approached and asked, "Is that a King Song?" EUCs are extremely rare around here in my small town near Indianapolis, so I was surprised that anyone on the street would have an idea what it was, not to mention the brand of the wheel! :efee78d764: It turns out that I met @learnerofskills from the Chicago area. He had his wheel with him in his car, so he got it out. And there we were ... two fellow EUC riders in a small town off the interstate highway standing there in the cold outside a drug store at midnight talking about wheels for 20 minutes or so. 

It was a fantastic million-to-one shot to meet another EUC rider when and where I did. Maybe he thought the same and was compelled to come over and talk to me! :efefd0f676: I was intrigued to learn how he uses his wheel. @winterwheel gave him some spot on advice about which one to buy for that purpose. I think I remember a thread or two that discusses how a wheel can be used on the job. He has a perfect practical use for a wheel.     

Hey Scottie! It was great to run into you the other day! Of course I had to come up and talk to you, since you don't see us EUC riders around that often. You'll never guess what happened after we split ways. I want into the drug store to buy some medicine, and a woman who lived in town chatted me up at the checkout line and invited me to her place for a party! Man that was a wild night! So anyways. Long story short, I have a place to stay in this town now. Hahah! Let me tell you, that night started out really bad but changed around real quick once I saw you. Really good luck that day!

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On 1/24/2021 at 2:32 AM, Scottie said:

If you did not come over and talk to me, your timing would have changed and you would have went into the store earlier and not met that woman at the checkout. 

 Hit me up on this board if you ever have some time and desire to wheel around the town.

You know I was thinking the same thing. Thanks! Also I'm off work tomorrow (thursday) if you want to ride.

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2 hours ago, learnerofskills said:

You know I was thinking the same thing. Thanks! Also I'm off work tomorrow (thursday) if you want to ride.

Darn. I work Wednesday through Saturday ... off Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. We'll keep trying, especially when nicer weather rolls around. Sometimes I'll get a 90 minute ride from 10 AM to Noon, if the weather is above freezing, before I have to get ready for work. I work 2 PM to midnite.

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What Took Me So Long?

Well, the pads I had sitting around for a few months finally got put on the MSP. The MSP turned out to be the main primary wheel for daytime rides because it is the most capable by a small margin. But occasionally I would have trouble negotiating obstacles that caught me by surprise at low speed due to lack of enough intent/lean. And there were times when I would want to go up a small steep rise and could not quite manage enough pedal force standing on my toes and would nearly stall out at the top.

These were the second type of pads I tried on the MSP. I like them because they are not in the way and still allow that extra little nudge at the right time. And they have their own stiffness which allows putting them higher up on the wheel body, which also helps with mounting since that gives a little more wheel height to help the 1st leg control the wheel better while stepping up with the 2nd.

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In the back area of my mind I had been thinking that I would keep improving my skills and not need such things. Also I was not wanting anything to get in the way of tilt steering. Finally, all the YouTube pad reviews persuaded me to put them on. Maybe I did not "need" them. But I am glad I finally gave them a try. My toes could not overcome the laws of physics by themselves. And pads do not overcome the laws either, but they do push them back a little and give a bit more room to play! Now past troublesome hill climbs seem effortless. That opens up some new possibilities.

Side Note: MSP just turned 1000 miles (1609 km). Fortunately that is not many miles for a wheel when looking at some of the mileage found on this thread. Expecting many more fun rides.

     

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The Negativity Factor ...

... is generally very, very small. Comments that I have heard from the public 99% of the time have to do with amazement, bewilderment, etc. But there are a few "one-percenters" out there that make themself known by going the other way. 

As noted by @Tazarinho in this post:

On 11/12/2019 at 5:11 AM, Tazarinho said:

Most people react with a smile, some with instant dislike.

I just felt some of that "instant dislike". On a daytime ride yesterday, a young male "one-percenter" drove by me on the far side of the street in the same direction I was going as I was riding on a sidewalk along a major neighborhood street. I heard him shout, "Don't fall off that thing" as he went by. That may sound like an innocent thing to say, but it had a negative tone. And after all, he saw me riding the wheel like I owned it! ... not a hint of looking like I was going to fall. So, I did what I normally do ... kept on moving about my business as if I heard nothing, just to remove myself from any possible situation that could start to go bad. I got a little ahead of him because he was approaching an intersection and had to stop and wait his turn. I made the intersection before him and turned left, staying on the sidewalk. He then made his left turn and as he passed me once again and made another comment that I did not hear well, but the general tone sounded negative.  I did not see him, but he sounded like an older teenager or young 20 something.

I usually dismiss this kind of stuff as hormones getting the better of the young guy. Hormones are nice to have, but they also have their down-side. I had some 'back in the day', so I know. :rolleyes: Low-T is a much more peaceful way to go than the raging hormones of a young man. But even when I had all that raging High-T, I don't remember calling out a random person on the street and giving him a hassle for nothing, especially on older guy minding his business trying to do something. So, for me, it takes a bit of hoodlum tendency to want to start up something over nothing with an unknown person. :efef36327c:

But ... was it nothing? Maybe the young guy saw the old guy doing this amazing thing, and then felt for some reason he had to take him down a notch, rather than give a nice wave or thumbs up.  

The big city riders probably get this kind of thing a lot and are just deaf to it, because as they say, "that's life in the big city"! I live and ride in a small town. This is maybe the 3rd time I have heard this same comment in the year that I have been riding. Maybe the 1st time I heard it was in my early days of riding, and maybe I did look like I was going to fall ... but I doubt it. I think they all had the same meaning, and it is not concern for my safety, but a passive aggressive shot across the bow because for some reason in their mind they did not want to see an old dude doing something relatively cool and outclassing them in any way.

By some strange coincidence, this ride was just a day after I watched @Mike Sacristan commenting very similarly to what I was feeling. I replayed the scene a few times trying to see the guys Mike just passed by, bit I could not tell what it was about. But Mike's narrative sounded like he just went through a similar encounter with those several guys at the car that I had with my young cat. Or maybe those guys reminded him of previous encounters. The little things that we can key in on and remember are amazing. So why can't I remember where I just put my keys? :confused1:  This section of Mike's video stuck with me and so did that comment from my detractor. My young cat only 'harshed my buzz' for a few minutes. I still had a great ride afterwards. Even though I am a person (I think), one of the people (I think), I still can't figure people out! So, even being an insider does not help. Rant over. I did not want to reinvent the wheel (pun intended :facepalm:), so I looked up a couple of older threads to try to figure it out, this one and this one.

Mike, if you read this post, you can tell I am totally with you on this and the way you were feeling. I hope you are okay drilling into this a little more for the benefit of the community. Mike's fun fellas start at about time index 23:23 of this video and goes to about 26:00. I'll start it for you at 23:15 so you can get ready. Mike, it was hard to see. Can you share a little more about what they did that bothered you?

For good or for bad, EUC riding can provoke some strange politics, whether we are viewed as heroes, or aliens, or nerds!

Side Note: I also remember a couple of Chooch videos where he happened upon some negative people while riding his EUC on the trail, and he had to deal with those people that hated their life for some reason, and they aimed some of that negativity at Chooch because he was obviously enjoying his! I am paraphrasing a lot here. Sorry Chooch!        

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Dealing with negative comments...Ignore, verbal fights, physical fights.. Which is the best way? Physical fights won't solve the problem, only exacerbate and complicate! I tried ignoring...that didn't work either. Verbal fights worked well, but it took several times. Case in time: Everyday I use my KS18S to commute back and forth work. On my way home, I encountered this 60 years old guy. He would tell me to get off the sidewalk. In the beginning, I just ignored him. Then he got aggressive by stretching his arm out attempting to block my way. So finally I stopped, trying to reason with him. He didn't want to hear what I had to say. So I said what he could understand... You m...f... fu... many expletives exchanged! After that, no more shit from him! Wonderful! That's how some people will give you respect! From then on is back to ignoring :):ph34r:

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I thought about making up business cards to hand out that say:

This is an EPAMD

State code 55-53-105 

It is NOT classified as a motorized vehicle per state code. For all practical purposes it is a non motorized bicycle. It is illegal to discriminate against it in any way that a bicycle would not also be discriminated against.  ..... Have a nice Day :D

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9 hours ago, scubadragosan said:

Dealing with negative comments...Ignore, verbal fights, physical fights.. Which is the best way? Physical fights won't solve the problem, only exacerbate and complicate! I tried ignoring...that didn't work either. Verbal fights worked well, but it took several times. Case in time: Everyday I use my KS18S to commute back and forth work. On my way home, I encountered this 60 years old guy. He would tell me to get off the sidewalk. In the beginning, I just ignored him. Then he got aggressive by stretching his arm out attempting to block my way. So finally I stopped, trying to reason with him. He didn't want to hear what I had to say. So I said what he could understand... You m...f... fu... many expletives exchanged! After that, no more shit from him! Wonderful! That's how some people will give you respect! From then on is back to ignoring :):ph34r:

I have a different policy. Since I pass many people on my rides, I made it a point from day #1 to say hello to everyone. The result: now and when I ride, more than half the people of all ages, say hello to me before I do... really funny how human behavior can be influenced with a simple hello. Not one person has picked on me. And many when they see me simply walking, they ask: "Aren't you riding today?". Really great to see there reactions.

@scubadragosan, btw...I'm a 61 year old EUC rider. It's not about age, it's about inner happiness. Ride well my friend :clap3:

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8 hours ago, OldFartRides said:

I too am the first euc rider in the town where I live. I take my ambassador role  seriously.

I make sure I give peds the right of way. I don’t sneak up them, or pass from behind. If they are taking up the whole path, I’ll either stop, or go off road. And take the time to talk if they are interested.

Best,

That's also what I do. Actually, I have a rear view mirror on the left side of my helmet, and I also signal to all the cars coming up behind me to overtake me and many drivers have back thanking me. You see, technically in Portugal, like in many European countries, these EUC's are illegal due to a legal "hole" in the law. So, to avoid problems I stick to the road and only climb on the occasional sidewalk when I know that no one's there. 

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You might think these pads are not installed correctly, but they work for my legs that way.

Tamed A Monster

I was pad resistant ...

I had put the Monster away for a few months while I enjoyed it's little brother, the MSP, which I finally put pads on.  And as my riding skills improved over those months, I could not help but want to try some more difficult terrain. The pads worked out so well for me on the MSP, really opening up it's abilities. So I thought, "why not circle back to the resting Monster and put some on it". The Monster needed pads just to make it more ride-able, not so much for off road fun, but just to help me over everyday sticky spots.

And during those months while the Monster was on vacation, my EUC calves got in better shape along with the rest of me improving skills and reflexes. Riding the Monster was a whole new experience. I was able to enjoy that bigger gyro of a wheel and also got the sense that it does roll over stuff with less fuss and blunts the bumps more. It is not suspension by any means, but I can feel that it turns a bump into a smaller bump. The pads now allow me to easily nudge the big wheel over things that used to give me some issues when trying to get by on toe power alone!  :efee47c9c8: The pads are out of the way for the most part, but just in range enough for my legs to get to them when I want them. I find that I am also using the pads to persuade the wheel to come around in a turn ... you have to ask a Monster for things; politely.

I just got back from a ride and was enjoying the Monster's newly discovered abilities. The high school kids had just been let out for the day and the jocks were out on the field getting ready for football practice, and I was on a wide sidewalk as I rolled by them about 50 meters away, like I owned the Monster ... it used to feel like somebody else's wheel. I heard them take notice but could not make out what they were saying, so I don't know if it was another negative thing with hormone crazed young cats or not. I just enjoyed the fact that they were noticing something odd happening rather that head down in the cell phones!

... but now I am not!  :smartass:

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7 hours ago, Scottie said:

The Crash That Wasn't

This one is for the other older guys out there wheeling around, the Geritol crew. For the younger crowd, this one is a snoozer. :sleep1:

By all rights, I should have hit the pavement ...

I was nearing the end of a beautiful morning ride and had been at for about 3 hours and riding like a boss for an older guy. I was exploring an area I had not been before. There where two large churches in a roomy suburban setting, both with large parking lots. The parking lots for each church came close to each other in one area, separated by about 10 meters of nicely mowed grass.

Since grass is not a big thing anymore ( I had already just done lots of grass riding on this ride), I decided to "just ride across" [famous last words] and go see what the other parking lot had to offer, since I was out and about looking at everything. Well, surprises often come by surprise! As I was approaching the pavement of the other parking lot at a jogger's speed (an old jogger), I hit an area of about 1 meter of slippery mud under the grass ... all grass riding up to this point was firm and dry ... hence my surprise. I did not sink in, but just did an unexpected mud burnout while trying to speed up a little to bonk up onto the pavement. I wish someone had got me on video. That unexpected mud burnout really took all my game from me due to the sudden loss of traction when needed. I made it up on the pavement but was completely in a state of awkward contortion and balance. I basically fell off the pedals one at a time while my body was flailing about trying to figure out what the h#*l was happening. I remember expecting to fall and hear the wheel crash about making new battle scars. I should have McFallen ... deserved to fall ... was supposed to fall ... fully earned that fall! But then something magical happened. As I was twisting and flailing about, somehow I stayed on my feet and also caught the wheel before it fell! It must have been my fledgling EUC reflexes that kicked in and saved me and the wheel.

I doubt I would have got hurt, since this would just have been about like a routine learning fall. It was the complete surprise that got me. I was expecting one thing from the terrain and it gave me something completely different. If I was expecting it, I would have rode right through it with minimal fuss. But after riding through all kinds of grassy things this morning, my confidence was too high. I was not in my usual state of mild anxiety or caution.

I forgot what was said earlier, so I lost that strange balance of confidence and concentration for a moment.

           

That's exactly like when I fell going down the ramp : the muddy ground caved in under the plastic net at the parking ot and the next thing I knew...i was flat faced on the ground not knowing what happened to me.

LIST OF FAMOUS SCARES FOR ME SO FAR :

1) Slippery ground

2)drivers backing up on parking lots

3) drivers of parked cars opening doors while we're passing. 

4) drivers backing up... On a curve with no visibility

5) Dogs... Of course

6) My excessive confidence at the end of a ride

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9 hours ago, Paulo Mesquita said:

6) My excessive confidence at the end of a ride

Yes sir, that is the one. That strange balance of confidence and concentration is a tough thing to hold on to when we become proud of ourselves!  :efee8319ab:

As an aside, I know you would not want to miss out on the award presented to your spiritual guide, ShanesPlanet. He received the miniature Nobel Prize for ... well ... for being Shane! :D

 

9 hours ago, Paulo Mesquita said:

5) Dogs... Of course

Dogs! .... am I right?

 

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14 minutes ago, Scottie said:

Yes sir, that is the one. That strange balance of confidence and concentration is a tough thing to hold on to when we become proud of ourselves!  :efee8319ab:

 

Dogs! .... am I right?

 

Selfie stick or baton, take care of that issue without even stopping. Isnt getting bitten by a dog a damn good reason to just beat the ever living sh*t out of it? :eff0541f4a: An added bonus would be if the owner decided to get some... Even better would be if it made it to court and I got paid for my trouble.

From what I gather, we need @Hunka Hunka Burning Love to return. This nuthouse is pretty full, but its missing something...

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