GHOSTTE Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Robse said: Right and then not. In Denmark we have a way of speaking which probably covers this well: Pølse for og pølse bag, pølse har den samme smag. I don't speak Danish, but sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2disbetter Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, GHOSTTE said: I don't speak Danish, but sure. Sausage front and sausage back, sausage has the same taste. Compliments of DeepL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, GHOSTTE said: First is a true hydraulic suspension shock What makes it a true hydraulic suspension shock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTTE Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, 2disbetter said: Sausage front and sausage back, sausage has the same taste. Compliments of DeepL Means nothing to me, but sausage is delicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTTE Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, techyiam said: What makes it a true hydraulic suspension shock? There is no coil-over like the KS S22 and there is no air to pump like the IM V13, existing suspension Begodes, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 How does a hydraulic suspension work? In a hydraulic suspension system, the action of the wheel pumps oil from one chamber to another via a “damper valve.” Each chamber in the system has a “diaphragm” with compressed gas against which the force generated by the pumped fluid collides and rebounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, GHOSTTE said: There is no coil-over like the KS S22 and there is no air to pump like the IM V13, existing suspension Begodes, etc So, why are there long strong coiled springs inside the ShermS shock then? And how come no-one hasn’t talked about the costs of replacing the hydraulic fluid that is unavoidably present in a hydraulic suspension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTTE Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, mrelwood said: So, why are there long strong coiled springs inside the ShermS shock then? And how come no-one hasn’t talked about the costs of replacing the hydraulic fluid that is unavoidably present in a hydraulic suspension? I'm going to quote someone else because this is a silly argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robse Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, GHOSTTE said: I'm going to quote someone else because this is a silly argument It seems we are back to basics now. My motorcycle has a front fork with oil dampers, and progressive springs in each leg. The height is adjustable via a valve in the top of each leg. And fortunately, the two legs are connected via a bridge, so they are in "sync". The Sherman S has one oil damper and one spring.... how is this anything else than what is found in one combined damper and spring unit on the KS S22 ? Furthermore; What is best; A suspension system where left and right of center has opposite functions, or one where the complete suspension is in the center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTTE Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Robse said: It seems we are back to basics now. My motorcycle has a front fork with oil dampers, and progressive springs in each leg. The height is adjustable via a valve in the top of each leg. And fortunately, the two legs are connected via a bridge, so they are in "sync". The Sherman S has one oil damper and one spring.... how is this anything else than what is found in one combined damper and spring unit on the KS S22 ? Furthermore; What is best; A suspension system where left and right of center has opposite functions, or one where the complete suspension is in the center. I never said anything about "best" I only said the Sherman S suspension was new tech to EUCs, which is is. Also the KS S22 is a coil-over that is adjustable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soulson Posted February 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2023 Darn I was hoping to get home from work today and be enlightened by a discussion about the inverter carrier frequency or motor reactance or transistor slew rate or lithium-ion cell ESR. Instead it's two pages of people arguing over what to call the suspension mechanism in a wheel that isn't even the V13 1 1 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 hours ago, GHOSTTE said: I'm going to quote someone else because this is a silly argument I replied in the ShermS thread: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebeuc Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I just noticed that the Android app 'EUC World' just recently added initial support for the v13 as of version 2.30.1 released on Jan 29 The changelog on their website, though, only mentions up to version 2.30.0 so doesn't yet list it as of the time I am writing this post https://euc.world/downloads/EUC World Release Notes.pdf From the android app on 2.30.1: added: initial, basic support for Inmotion V13 fixed: charging controller couldn't scan/connect to smart plug or even caused the app to crash various fixes and improvements 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) Check this out guys... why does the V13 do that spin up / spin down thing when it falls over, having not quite climbed this big steep sandy embankment ? I'd find that most disconcerting, and would prefer the Gotway behaviour of instant cut-out and wheel stop on side-over. Or can that behaviour be changed in the app ? Edited February 1, 2023 by Cerbera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rebeuc Posted February 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2023 Just now, Cerbera said: why does the V13 do that spin up / spin down thing when it falls over, having not quite climbed this big steep sandy embankment ? I'd find that most disconcerting, and would prefer the Gotway behaviour of instant cut-out and wheel stop. We'd have to ask the folks who had the wheel at the time, but it is possible they may have enabled the berm mode which was discussed a while back in this thread, which changes the cutoff angle from the typical 45 degrees to a much more generous angle. As part of the earlier discussion some of us were speculating that the berm mode could actually be dangerous for normal everyday riding because of a video out there of the Toronto demo of the wheel where someone didn't quite get on the wheel correctly and it did an insanely dangerous fast spinout. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2disbetter Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) It is weird, I have noticed that when doing free wheel tests. It is like an angle is detected and the wheel just gives it full power to cut out. This is a firmware / software thing though, and it can be corrected. I would expect this being something Inmotion addresses. Edit: I love the V13. It is a seriously impressive wheel. I just can't say enough about the build quality. Edited February 1, 2023 by 2disbetter 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2disbetter Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I just had my first spill on the V13, nothing major, but as it laid on its side, the wheel spun up, cut out, and turned off. This is certainly bad behavior, and I hope that Inmotion has a response in the form of a firmware update in the works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul g Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, 2disbetter said: I just had my first spill on the V13, nothing major, but as it laid on its side, the wheel spun up, cut out, and turned off. This is certainly bad behavior, and I hope that Inmotion has a response in the form of a firmware update in the works. Yeah, they should do something about that. My V12 does the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEC Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, 2disbetter said: I just had my first spill on the V13, nothing major, but as it laid on its side, the wheel spun up, cut out, and turned off. This is certainly bad behavior, and I hope that Inmotion has a response in the form of a firmware update in the works. Do you have Acceleration or Breaking assistance on? If yes, can you try if it (mis-)behaves the same way when those are turned off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uras Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) On 2/1/2023 at 10:24 AM, Robse said: A suspension system where left and right of center has opposite functions. This is how the majority of high end mtb forks work. I'm not sure what you mean by "opposite functions" though. I'd call them complimentary functions, or one side is complimentary to the side that does the main suspension work. I kind of like it - it makes each side less complex and more robust. Edited February 2, 2023 by Uras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onizukagto Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 not sure if anyone posted this already, but here is another review of the V13 from S.Korea, with english subs. not really a technical or in-depth review but still pretty balanced from different riders. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josiah Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 46 minutes ago, onizukagto said: here is another review of the V13 from S.Korea, with english subs. At least he’s wearing his safety mask. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2disbetter Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) I think the way people should be labeling the V13 now is as "the safest one wheel rocket". Because that is what it is. The 3 best things about it are: 1) Fast 2) Fast 3) Fast That said, I was also recently thinking about what wheel I liked more, that I have. I was leaning towards the V12 HT, because it is just lighter, easier to be nimble with, etc. But I took it out today and it was windy. I was getting tossed all over the place, and fighting the wind was exhausting. I managed, but speeds came way down. 30 kph and under. So these bigger and heavier wheels are also just safer in more situations. Edited February 2, 2023 by 2disbetter 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GHOSTTE Posted February 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, 2disbetter said: So these bigger and heavier wheels are also just safer in more situations. Bigger and heavier wheels should also be more stable at higher speeds until we start putting airfoils and giant wings on our EUCs to generate downforce. Only a matter of time until someone throws one of these on their wheels Edited February 2, 2023 by GHOSTTE 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEC Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 8 hours ago, 2disbetter said: But I took it out today and it was windy. I was getting tossed all over the place, and fighting the wind was exhausting. I managed, but speeds came way down. 30 kph and under. Yeah, I was struggling too in 55 Km/h wind with gusts up to 87 Km/h on V12-HT. I'll see how much better V13 will do (hopefully soon). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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