houseofjob Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, RagingGrandpa said: Yes, this is different from the M50T. M50LT is a newer-design 21700 LG cell. I believe the LT or T designations are which factory they are being made in, not necessarily whether they are new or older versions of the cell (although they can be). So for M50T, T = Tianjin, so it is the M50 cell being made in Tianjin China. I can't find where the LT designation stands for unfortunately (guessing another area of China). Because of the supply crunch / lockdowns etc, many of the major battery manufacturers have been setting up alternative factories (usually China) to make the same model cells they do in their main factories (ie. the recent appearance of China-made Panasonic GA's). This is probably why all the China-based EUC factories are defaulting to the M50LT cell, because they are easier to source from where they are located. AFAICS, there doesn't seem to be a uniform way these battery makers designate updated revisions of cell chemistry to the same model cell, only minor changes like to the cell wrapper or changes in crimp rings etc. Edited December 7, 2021 by houseofjob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Robert Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) If the following is correct, the M50LT is just a longer life-cycle version of the M50T (1000 instead of 500 charge cycles). But it has the same inferior 7.3A discharge rate as the M50T. I guess 'L' stands for "longer life-cycle". https://www.illumn.com/21700-lg-inr21700m50lt-5000mah-high-discharge-flat-top.html Edited December 7, 2021 by Patrick Robert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjPanJan Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Then is important say @Marty Backe Comander is SPECIAL UNIT not serial product and test he make is not fully representive for "normal" buyers outside USA/Ewheels. Nobody know if he can make same range(great) and same overheat hill results(great) with "chinse/orginal" battery packs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCC Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 I couldn’t find any information pertaining to Commander. There is no official website and introduction of the product. Is the Commander still in production? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esash Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, YCC said: I couldn’t find any information pertaining to Commander. There is no official website and introduction of the product. Is the Commander still in production? I don't know but they're on sale for crazy low price on Alien Rides right now. 2400 for high speed version, 2200 dollars for high torque version. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 DAMN $2200 for a 3600Wh wheel (the better version, HT) It's not like it got any worse over time. No suspension but great otherwise. Buy one plus a replacement board to be future-proof, and done! I wonder if it's so cheap because everyone wants suspension nowadays... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Cheapest I can find in Europe is 3000€ (instead of the usual reduced price of about 3500-3600) at eucsale.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esash Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 58 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: Cheapest I can find in Europe is 3000€ (instead of the usual reduced price of about 3500-3600) at eucsale.com. They had the EX20S on sale too for like 2500 or 2800 or something crazy. Those sold out first. So lack of suspension isn't why the Commander is on sale so steep, but lack of suspension is the reason they haven't sold out yet. https://alienrides.com/collections/electric-unicycles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esash Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 20 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said: DAMN $2200 for a 3600Wh wheel (the better version, HT) It's not like it got any worse over time. No suspension but great otherwise. Buy one plus a replacement board to be future-proof, and done! I wonder if it's so cheap because everyone wants suspension nowadays... Looks like they put their remaining Hero HT wheels on sale for $2299 last night, and now they're sold out. Maaannn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackwheel Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 I picked up one of the discounted ones and it was packed with 50E instead of the advertised and questionable M50T cells. Bonus! Can’t wait to ride it. The weather in MI is nasty right now 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCC Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 8/12/2021 at 5:32 PM, stephen said: This might be another leaperkim wheel ,,,,,16inch 3600wh😬? Think the might be trying for all of the market What is the lumen of the front light in Commander? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCC Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) The spec of the headlight in “Commander” is XPG-R5 LED each side. The lumen of XPG-R5 is 600, which means two LED amounting to 1200LM in headlight of the “Commander”. Edited November 23, 2022 by YCC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZweemZ Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 bought this from Alien Rides. I was informed that they likely have the LG50T cell battery packs, notorious for fire issues. My friend assures me that the 50Ts are only an issue when used on a wheel with 2 packs and being that the commander has 4, it's fine. I also heard that charging these in the cold can lead to issues as well. can I get another opinion about this please. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNotoriousEUC Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) Just realized this was about the first Commander and not the Commander Pro. deleted my comment. Edited June 16, 2023 by TheNotoriousEUC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 You can open a side panel, there should be a sticker on the battery packs that tells you the cell type used. I'd check before I worry. Regardless, I haven't heard of any Commander fires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZweemZ Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 actually I have since checked and I was lucky enough to have gotten one with 50E packs, although I did see that they had been selling the high torque version with 50T packs perhaps the HT is more efficient and are okay with those packs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, ZweemZ said: My friend assures me that the 50Ts are only an issue when used on a wheel with 2 packs and being that the commander has 4, it's fine. I don’t know what your friend was after, since the amount of packs doesn’t affect the level of fire risk. And you shouldn’t charge any li-ion at below +5•C temperatures. There are of course a few other dos and don’ts for li-ions as well. I’d search for battery maintenance tips on this forum if you need more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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