rcgldr Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) I started when I was 69.5 years old on a V8F, back in August 2021. I did about 15 to 20 minutes of beginner drills, using fence to mount, rock back and forth, some short runs. Following the advice of Kuji Rolls and Wrong Way, I used support to mount and launch, rather than attempt free mount (no support). I ventured away from the fence at 3 to 5 mph using arm flailing | yaw steering, flail left to steer right and vice versa, for balance and to guide my V8F. I was able to do laps around a tennis court on my first attempt. My wife took a video on the next day. I didn't realize I was hunched over until I saw the video which I corrected afterwards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPyy84EThmM Arm flailing for slow speed riding is almost instinctive for many beginners and it's often taught for beginners on pedaled unicycles. Example of a 3 year old kid arm flailing: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/z9YiHu5HJ6o Using a rail can interfere with learning to balance, since some riders will panic reach for the rail rather than arm flail to regain balance. You can always step off if not going too fast. Most of the how to ride videos emphasize getting a bit more speed when learning to ride, so after 2 days and a total of about 1 hour at the tennis court at 3 to 5 mph, I moved to a long straight outdoor parking lot, which allowed me to ride at 6 to 8 mph, about 45 seconds per run, where I discovered my V8F became stable, and I no longer had to make balance corrections, and relaxed my arms. I was still using support to mount and launch. Speed control by leaning forwards | backwards to accelerate | decelerate wasn't an issue. I then tried tilt steering (inner foot down, outer foot up) for the first time. At first small tilts to see how my V8F would respond, then mild weaving pattern, and lastly large radius turns. I waited till day 5 to try free mount, which I got on my third try after compensating for my only time on a grassy field. My wife took a video on day 10 on a very long and wide pathway at a park: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keDvRMScO1g In Kuji Roll's how to ride video where he teaches a girl to ride on a V8, there's a similar progress. The girl uses extended arms for balance at first, but then goes fast enough for the V8 to become stable, and she's tilt steering to maneuver towards the end of the video. You can see the supported launch method, rock forward and back and while rocked back and leaning forwards, release (don't push) from support to launch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6o8ZMlo5ko&t=414s Becoming proficient at tilt steering, different speeds, different turning radius will take a while, learning to coordinate how much to tilt an EUC (which is mostly independent of speed), versus how much to lean. Wrong Way made a video comparing responses of tires, and in this 3 view comparison, the Z10 in the middle is tilted the least: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsXW4OKnmWc&t=314s For slow speed tight turns, the EUC is titled a lot (even a pedal scrape near the end), while the rider barely leans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqoNhGEhk2Y When I was learning. Wrong Way hadn't made his tires and turning video yet, so I used this video of a girl on an S18 as guide for tilt steering. She's riding Marty Backe | Duf style, minimal movement, no carving, no body twisting, just leaning her body and tilting the S18, very stable. Due to speed, turn radius, tire, ... , she tilts the S18 less than she leans. The weave she does at the end is what I tried to emulate when I first tried to tilt steer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hWMwK3Cfs0 For a tilt steering drill, I would lean a bit, then tilt my V8F inwards enough to return me back to vertical, weaving side to side. Then I prolonged the weave by tilting just enough to hold the lean for a bit before tilting more to return back to vertical. I varied speed and turning radius to learn how to coordinate tilt and lean. Slow speed tight turns were almost like learning a new skill. Once you can ride reasonably well, learn to be able to move your arms and | or look around without upsetting balance or changing direction (such as looking to the side for cross-traffic at intersections). As an extreme example of this, this girl slings a back pack around, puts her cell phone in the backpack and slings it back on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5HB40I4C3g&t=438s Edited November 30, 2022 by rcgldr 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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