Inmotion V13 Speculation

[HEC]

4 minutes ago, Clem604 said:

This 100%. The rear light is there there but I feel InMotion could've made an improvement there but at least you can mount all sorts of aftermarket lights on the back.

True. And in addition to that also reflective stickers (as on all my previous EUCs). I've got even nice black ones to keep the nice design of V13 as much undisturbed as possible (I have same ones in white for my white helmet): 

[Clem604]

1 minute ago, HEC said:

True. And in addition to that also reflective stickers (as on all my previous EUCs). I've got even nice black ones to keep the nice design of V13 as much undisturbed as possible (I have same ones in white for my white helmet):

Those stickers are great! I have a a couple of them on my helmet and also a few on my V11.

[Paul A]

A powerful, hand held LED torch might be beneficial, alongside a fixed headlight.

Direction of light around curves, gradients, surroundings...

Having a light redundancy might be advisable.

[HEC]

5 minutes ago, Paul A said:

A powerful, hand held LED torch might be beneficial, alongside a fixed headlight.

When I venture into unlit areas, I use this:

 

[Josiah]

That fits around your helmet?

[HEC]

44 minutes ago, Josiah said:

That fits around your helmet?

Yes. It's not clear from the image but in the back is adjustable stretchy belt, which allows to wear it both with and without helmet. It's also very light and comparing to top clip mounted bike light, I've tried before, it doesn't change the weight balance of the helmet. Plus it can be comfortably controlled while wearing thicker gloves by simply waving hand.

[Paul A]

58 minutes ago, HEC said:

When I venture into unlit areas

 

Maybe get one of these....

 

 

[HEC]

11 minutes ago, Paul A said:

 

Maybe get one of these....

 

 

Why take half measures... Go big or go home:

 

Edited February 5, 2023 by HEC

[Hellkitten]

So I just picked up a V13 to try out for a week. It’s not mine and I have no skin in the game. I’ll try and give my honest impressions. If anyone as any questions or things I can checkout let me know. I’m not opening it up and doing anything internally, but anything else ask away. 

First off this wheel is huge and heavy. Lol. I realize that’s stating the obvious, but wow! That being said it’s super stable and easy to ride. If I were to compare it to a vehicle I’d say it’s closest to a hummer. It’s not nimble, but feels very planted. This wheel really wants to go fast, braking is a bit slow and hardish to do. There are grizzla flow pads installed which helped immensely. I would not want to ride this without pads. The spiked stock pedals are good as are all the grab bars. I wouldn’t take this off roading, definitely an urban cruiser. The headlight is really nice, it has a good spread which covers a whole car lane. It’s top heavy and is prone to tip once it’s past it’s centre of balance. This is taking some learning on my end. All the grab handles help with not dropping the wheel at stop lights. Definitely not a roll up to the pub to have pints kinda wheel, or last mile commuter. You’re going to want to ride this thing to your destination anyway, this beast is fun. It makes a 84v wheel feel like a toy. This thing is absolutely like a vehicle between your legs. Using the trolley handle and walking with this wheel is a bit cumbersome. A little like a duck out of water. It’s doable, but this thing shines on the road while being ridden. As it doesn’t come with a kickstand, I used the front roll bars and laid the wheel down on its front, works well. This is an absolutely beautiful piece of equipment, I can understand the price point. 
 

App settings-    
Top speed according to the inmotion app 48.9mph total distance travelled 9.9 miles. 
Power assist is on. 
accelerate assist is at 72%
braking assist is at 50%

Shoutout to https://rideone.shop/ for lending me this wheel!!!! 🤙🏻🤙🏻

edit: just plugged the charger in, the fan is loud……..🤣🤣

Edited February 6, 2023 by Hellkitten

[novazeus]

it really does look like a great wheel. i was sad to cancel my order because of the axle bolt problem, even though i doubt i would break them, but i figure bob yan and jason know more than i do, and i doubt they'd waste their time and money changing them out, if they weren't concerned.

down the road after the wrinkles are ironed out, i still have space for one more wheel. as i was riding my s22 today, hitting 24mph on my road(the straight sections about 200yds)i was chuckling thinking about how difficult it was for reviewers to even find a place to attempt 55mph, and some people are already wondering if more top speed can be added.

i was having difficulty today stoppng at both ends, probably die on the v13. 

[GHOSTTE]

5 minutes ago, novazeus said:

bob yan and jason know more than i do, and i doubt they'd waste their time and money changing them out, if they weren't concerned.

Cheaper in the long run to apply preventative measures rather than have a bunch of angry customers with broken wheels and attempting to fix it then

[GHOSTTE]

24 minutes ago, Hellkitten said:

So I just picked up a V13 to try out for a week. It’s not mine and I have no skin in the game. I’ll try and give my honest impressions. If anyone as any questions or things I can checkout let me know. I’m not opening it up and doing anything internally, but anything else ask away. 

First off this wheel is huge and heavy. Lol. I realize that’s stating the obvious, but wow! That being said it’s super stable and easy to ride. If I were to compare it to a vehicle I’d say it’s closest to a hummer. It’s not nimble, but feels very planted. This wheel really wants to go fast, braking is a bit slow and hardish to do. There are grizzla flow pads installed which helped immensely. I would not want to ride this without pads. The spiked stock pedals are good as are all the grab bars. I wouldn’t take this off roading, definitely an urban cruiser. The headlight is really nice, it has a good spread which covers a whole car lane. It’s top heavy and is prone to tip once it’s past it’s centre of balance. This is taking some learning on my end. All the grab handles help with not dropping the wheel at stop lights. Definitely not a roll up to the pub to have pints kinda wheel, or last mile commuter. You’re going to want to ride this thing to your destination anyway, this beast is fun. It makes a 84v wheel feel like a toy. This thing is absolutely like a vehicle between your legs. Using the trolley handle and walking with this wheel is a bit cumbersome. A little like a duck out of water. It’s doable, but this thing shines on the road while being ridden. This is an absolutely beautiful piece of equipment, I can understand the price point. 

Have you tried other large wheels? How does it compare? The most concerning thing for me with the V13 is the range (or lack-thereof) which is why I switched from the Commander Pro to the EX30 on pre-order. It looks like a great wheel from fit to finish, I wish it didn't come in orange though

[Hellkitten]

@GHOSTTE I’ve ridden a few different wheels, my buddy has a master which I’ve messed around on, but wouldn’t say I’m comfortable on it yet. I’ve put thousands of miles on my v11 and a few hundred on a king song 18. This is by far the biggest heaviest wheel I’ve been on. Honestly though once mounted and moving it feels very natural and comfortable. 

[GHOSTTE]

1 hour ago, Hellkitten said:

edit: just plugged the charger in, the fan is loud……..🤣🤣

Better loud than on fire

[HEC]

52 minutes ago, GHOSTTE said:

It looks like a great wheel from fit to finish, I wish it didn't come in orange though

Interesting, I actually find the orange finish quite pleasing, plus almost everyone who saw the V13 in person says that the orange colour is darker and looks much better irl than in pictures.

[GHOSTTE]

Just now, HEC said:

Interesting, I actually find the orange finish quite pleasing, plus almost everyone who saw the V13 in person says that the orange colour is darker and looks much better irl than in pictures.

I want mine in black with zero branding, Batman style

My EUC will be my poor-man's Batmobile

[soulson]

I want mine bright and easy to see. Anything I take on the road around cars needs to be visible. Doesn't need to be tacky, but needs to be visible. Black wouldn't be my first choice.

[GHOSTTE]

Just now, soulson said:

I want mine bright and easy to see. Anything I take on the road around cars needs to be visible. Doesn't need to be tacky, but needs to be visible. Black wouldn't be my first choice.

EUCs are a bit low for people to see in vehicles, especially trucks. If you want to be bright wear a safety vest, the color of your EUC isn't going to matter much when it's between your legs and low to the ground

[soulson]

Totally valid points, but my view is that every bit helps!

[Paul A]

Having reflective vest and lights on the body, would be useful.

In the event of a crash at night, EUC and rider could be separated.

Lying injured on a road could be lethal.

[GHOSTTE]

3 minutes ago, Paul A said:

Having reflective vest and lights on the body, would be useful.

In the event of a crash at night, EUC and rider could be separated.

Lying injured on a road could be lethal.

Get one of those Tron setups for your helmet so you can lay on the ground looking good at least

https://lightmodehelmets.com/products/night-shift

[Paul A]

35 minutes ago, GHOSTTE said:

Tron setups for your helmet

 

Helmet lights are very good.

It would likely be visible in all directions, whilst riding, and if the body is prone on the ground.

The height positioning would be optimal for car drivers to see, at the greatest distance.

 

Plenty of variants available on Ebay, Amazon, etc.

[2disbetter]

3 hours ago, Hellkitten said:

So I just picked up a V13 to try out for a week. It’s not mine and I have no skin in the game. I’ll try and give my honest impressions. If anyone as any questions or things I can checkout let me know. I’m not opening it up and doing anything internally, but anything else ask away. 

First off this wheel is huge and heavy. Lol. I realize that’s stating the obvious, but wow! That being said it’s super stable and easy to ride. If I were to compare it to a vehicle I’d say it’s closest to a hummer. It’s not nimble, but feels very planted. This wheel really wants to go fast, braking is a bit slow and hardish to do. There are grizzla flow pads installed which helped immensely. I would not want to ride this without pads. The spiked stock pedals are good as are all the grab bars. I wouldn’t take this off roading, definitely an urban cruiser. The headlight is really nice, it has a good spread which covers a whole car lane. It’s top heavy and is prone to tip once it’s past it’s centre of balance. This is taking some learning on my end. All the grab handles help with not dropping the wheel at stop lights. Definitely not a roll up to the pub to have pints kinda wheel, or last mile commuter. You’re going to want to ride this thing to your destination anyway, this beast is fun. It makes a 84v wheel feel like a toy. This thing is absolutely like a vehicle between your legs. Using the trolley handle and walking with this wheel is a bit cumbersome. A little like a duck out of water. It’s doable, but this thing shines on the road while being ridden. As it doesn’t come with a kickstand, I used the front roll bars and laid the wheel down on its front, works well. This is an absolutely beautiful piece of equipment, I can understand the price point. 
 

App settings-    
Top speed according to the inmotion app 48.9mph total distance travelled 9.9 miles. 
Power assist is on. 
accelerate assist is at 72%
braking assist is at 50%
 

edit: just plugged the charger in, the fan is loud……..🤣🤣

Cool that you could work something out like that. Being able to try out a wheel is a luxury not many of us have. 

I just started riding so my comments don't mean much, and I know it, but I feel the same as you. Although the trolley is good. Well built. I can control the wheel with it. I think your size plays into the utility of the handle significantly. 

Regarding how the wheel is top heavy, I would agree. Not in an unbalanced kind of way, but much more in what is required to turn on the wheel. You really have to muscle the wheel to the side to get turning going on. Kuji talks about this in his video on it as well. In general I want to get better on the wheel, BUT I feel like I getting so good at the V12 that I kind of put it off on the V13. However, as you mentioned the wheel is super stable going straight and doing normal turns. Doing slow speed maneuvers and all are things that I'm nervous about doing on the wheel. Time will improve things, and I will eventually probably see the V12 as a toy next to the V13. 

[Hellkitten]

@2disbetter yeah I definitely am lucky to have a fantastic community here, I’m not taking that for granted. It was a thank you from a local shop in Toronto that I helped teach people to ride during the summer. https://rideone.shop/
I just got in from another rip with friends and two of us swapped wheels for a bit. He took the V13 and I used his Master. I got to get more familiar with that wheel on this ride and I found the Master more nimble and easier to do tighter turns with. My buddy did swap out the stock knobby for a nice street tire with a round profile. He thinks that has a lot to do with the cornering. He tested 5 different tires before picking that one. 
As you mentioned it’s a well balanced wheel, it feels very stable, especially at higher speeds. I think it’s a combo of being top heavy and the knobs of the tire. I think a nice road tire on the V13 is the way to go. The handle with the small nub was difficult to get any leverage with and it’s a heavy wheel that’s easy to twist. I think it could be improved. Feels a bit like an afterthought.
This wheel wants to be ridden, it’s just pointing you in the right direction.💨

Edited February 6, 2023 by Hellkitten

[Tawpie]

Folks gave DawnC a difficult time for her speed run video… there’s miles of clear space here!