Popular Post Asphalt Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) ****** Feb 28, 2022 - To more accurately reflect the number of EUC fires, reports of burnt/smoking control boards have been removed from this list. The remaining reports are only of EUC fires. ****** Mar 17, 2022 - Attempt to differentiate fires caused by user abuse (dropped in a river, battery modifications, crashes, etc.) ****** Frequency of ALL fires Gotway/Begode: 43 Kingsong: 13 InMotion: 7 Ninebot/Segway: 4 IPS: 1 Frequency of fires excluding known abuse (Fires NOT known to be caused by water submersion, battery modification, crashes, etc) Gotway/Begode: 34 Kingsong: 8 InMotion: 7 Ninebot/Segway: 4 IPS: 1 July 2015 IPS 101 https://www.facebook.com/groups/hkeuc/permalink/924235507632544/ Sept 2018 InMotion V10 Feb 2019 Segway E+ May 9, 2019 Usage-related Fire: Crashed many times, many parts replaced Kingsong 16S June 23, 2019 Ninebot E+ Oct 15, 2019 Kingsong 16X May 25, 2020 Gotway Nikola 100V 1800Wh May 31, 2020 Gotway Monster V3 3108 Wh Usage-related Fire: Third-party modified batery Nov 18, 2020 Gotway MSP HS C30 Early 2021 Kingsong 14S Usage-related Fire: Submerged in water Jan 9, 2021 Gotway MSP HT C38 1800Wh Jan 12, 2021 Gotway Monster Pro Jan 13, 2021 Gotway RS Another fire! April 10, 2021 Gotway Monster Pro V3 (thanks to @RagingGrandpa for the correction) https://www.facebook.com/1629584312/videos/10222389886409212/ May 15, 2021 Kingsong 14d https://www.reddit.com/r/ElectricUnicycle/comments/ndg9mg/15_years_in_700_miles_later_my_kingsong_14d/ May 19, 2021 Gotway Mten3 https://www.reddit.com/r/ElectricUnicycle/comments/ngxgj3/brand_new_mten3_first_charge_started_smoking_in/ Sept 14, 2021 Gotway MSP HS https://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/4329259460505317/ Sept 21, 2021 Gotway Nikola 100V 1800Wh Oct 3, 2021 Gotway Nikola 100V 1800Wh Oct 20, 2021 Gotway RS Nov 1, 2021 Gotway MSP HT Nov 6, 2021 Gotway Nikola+ Dec 23, 2021 Gotway MSPhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/4658533740911219/ Dec 28, 2021 Gotway MCM5 Usage-related Fire: Heavily modified wheelhttps://www.instagram.com/p/CYB0JV4hpWh/ Jan 5, 2022 Gotway RS HThttps://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/4707971315967461/ Jan 27, 2022 InMotion V11https://www.reddit.com/r/ElectricUnicycle/comments/twoe79/amazon_review_inmotion_v11_responsible_for_house/ Feb 5, 2022 Gotway RS HT Feb 5, 2022 Gotway Nikola 100V 1800Wh Usage-related Fire: Covered in snowhttps://t.me/monokoleso73/16062 Feb 21, 2022 Gotway Nikola+ 100Vhttps://www.instagram.com/p/CaQ3LvDF7sU Mar 5, 2022 Gotway MSX 84Vhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/1102391196972031/permalink/1145140376030446/ Mar 16, 2022 Kingsong S18 Usage-related Fire: Dropped in canalhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/4936442613120329/ Mar 17, 2022 Kingsong S18 Usage-related Fire: Submerged in waterhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/1862054430504477/posts/5082523378457550/ Mar 18, 2022 Gotway Usage-related Fire: Custom battery in EcoDrift service centrehttps://t.me/ecodriftnews/883 Mar 26, 2022 Kingsong S20 (pre-production) Apr 4, 2022 Gotway Nikola 2620Wh Usage-related Fire: Custom/rebuilt batteryhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/4986577861440137/ May 20, 2022 InMotion V11https://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/5111795705585018/ May 22, 2022 Kingsong 18XLhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Cd5ssWyLZS7/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= May 22, 2022 Kingsong S18https://www-krone-at.translate.goog/2714985?fbclid=IwAR1dw8oe3EA-W4q1A2bgBvhCIJ7B_gU6c65c0l_RdL3sYDvtMEt-PF4GgNU&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp May 25, 2022 InMotion V11 Jun 10, 2022 Begode RS HShttps://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/posts/5174067029357885/?__cft__[0]=AZX2AjpqQr0O9kB063SnaiW-R-CarYZDZ9i6nQ0-t1sSQftHekH_J5sRMGyplLbh33fI4UEiU85K4oOyIQGTdKAAoWDVduXHkVf2Dns1aLOvrRUDNXRhtFnoX-FeDGKHu4JSBTjWqGYcPUXTgCqNlVX8bkDLcWlKr11KUcF9WeINVZGv7P5uwYwn6MIk0IMfmJ4&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R Jun 10, 2022 Kingsong 14Dhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/5172601752837746/ Aug 2, 2022 Gotway MSPhttps://discord.com/channels/301222762133848064/301222762133848064/1004267308493058058https://discord.com/channels/301222762133848064/301222762133848064/1004314899935141938 Aug 7, 2022 Gotway MSPhttps://www.instagram.com/p/ChAV7z9u4V6/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Aug 19, 2022 Begode RS HThttps://www.facebook.com/100046721797392/posts/pfbid031UC44R1LRmfH1tFdeb1NHd3dvUCcuXgtp2SVZKuXvGPd29tXKcwB4yWatRcmcBJxl/?d=n Aug 19, 2022 Gotway Nikola 1800https://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/5369189486512304/ Aug 21, 2022 Begode RShttps://t.me/nycunicyclecollective/972588 Aug 23, 2022 Kingsong 16S Aug 26, 2022 Begode RS Aug 30, 2022 InMotion V11https://www-pozary-cz.translate.goog/clanek/264062-pri-pozaru-bytu-v-praze-9-byly-zachraneny-dve-osoby-pricinou-vzniku-byla-elektricka-jednokolka/?_x_tr_sl=cs&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=cs&_x_tr_pto=wapp Sept 10, 2022 Ninebot Onehttps://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/5427298417368077/ Sept 14, 2022 Gotway RS Sept 22, 2022 Gotway MSPhttps://t.me/eucriders/274469 Sept 26, 2022 Gotway Monster V3 (Custom 3108Wh) Usage-related Fire: Custom/rebuilt battery dropped in water Oct 6, 2022 Gotway Nikola 1800Wh Oct 21, 2022 Gotway Monster Prohttps://www.gofundme.com/f/a-riders-family-is-in-deep-need?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer Oct 25, 2022 Gotway Mten3 512Wh https://www.facebook.com/groups/MonocykleElektrycznePOLSKA/permalink/5134575513310081/ Nov 6, 2022 Kingsong S18 Feb 16, 2023 InMotion V11 https://www.facebook.com/groups/inmotioneuc/permalink/3037283213233301/?mibextid=S66gvFhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/inmotioneuc/permalink/3073273906300898/ Mar 12, 2023 Gotway Nikola 1800 https://electrotransport.ru/ussr/index.php?PHPSESSID=e1r9dm9im2ts7flockko4llvd7;topic=52313.msg2269537#msg2269537 Mar 26, 2023 Begode RS https://gofund.me/f9399366 Mar 27, 2023 Begode RS https://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/6025994304165149/?mibextid=S66gvF April 1, 2023 Kingsong S22 Usage-related Fire: Saltwater exposure at beach https://t.me/s_EUC/53069 April 19, 2023 Begode RS HS Usage-related Fire: Repaired battery pack https://t.me/mono_man/14334 May 11, 2023 Gotway MSP HT https://www.facebook.com/groups/1102391196972031/permalink/1419169611960853/ May 21, 2023 Inmotion V11 https://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/6195777143853530/ May 23, 2023 Ninebot One S2 May 25, 2023 Begode RS19https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/kids-sent-home-after-electric-unicycle-fire-federal-way-elementary-school/LHIM3ZDZFZBCPLCFSFOGVTBLPU/?outputType=amp Edited May 26 by Asphalt Added Ninebot One S2 and Begode RS19 18 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) Good initiative 👍🏻 Let's report here if we stumble upon something not listed yet. Edited January 18, 2021 by null Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RagingGrandpa Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 Hundreds of boards have failed. The consequences of a board failure, compared to a battery fire, are insignificant. "I saw sparks and smoke!" is the only common thread... (but one stops on its own; the other totals your house). Please let's make every effort to not intermix these two different types of failure. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Robert Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Asphalt said: Compiling a list of reported EUC fires and burned control boards. Really cool initiative, thank you! We can clearly see which manufacturer needs to improve the most, nice to see a clear summary in which this stands out. 3 hours ago, RagingGrandpa said: The consequences of a board failure, compared to a battery fire, are insignificant. Both types are pretty bad. I'd like to avoid a battery fire as much as a burnt control board, or any other type of control board failure while I'm on the wheel! And I'm not talking about extreme testing like Marty's Overheat Hill runs, just regular use. A board failure (even without burning) leading to a cutoff while I'm riding at 50 km/h is far from insignificant. I could argue that board failures could lead to serious injury (on me and others as well), versus property damage in case of battery fire. At worst in either case you could end up buying the farm. It would be nice to have a more complete breakdown of failures, organized by failure type, yes. But this is a good start. Edited January 18, 2021 by Patrick Robert 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_bike_kite Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Can you create a Google spreadsheet that his info like type of incident, manufacturer, model, approximate mileage, year, conditions (dry, damp, raining), battery type and battery model. That way it would be easier to spot a pattern. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asphalt Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 Added Kingsong 14d fire after hopping off a curb. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 One more for the stats ;( 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothamMike Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Another Gotway/Begode fire Brand New! WTF is going on with Gotway? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadler Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) On 5/20/2021 at 11:43 AM, GothamMike said: Another Gotway/Begode fire Brand New! WTF is going on with Gotway? OMG!!! WTF IS.GOING WITH QC AND SAFETY!!!! GOD KNOWs WE PAY PREMIUM FOR THESE WHEELS!!!! Edited May 22, 2021 by Stadler Mis spelled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikB Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 5/22/2021 at 11:32 AM, Stadler said: GOD KNOWs WE PAY PREMIUM FOR THESE WHEELS!!!! Not really. You'd be paying a premium for these wheels if they were made in the US by say Apple to US safety/quality standards. You are getting them from a Chinese company because you/we don't want to pay a premium for better quality/safety standards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsnapper Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, VikB said: Not really. You'd be paying a premium for these wheels if they were made in the US by say Apple to US safety/quality standards. You are getting them from a Chinese company because you/we don't want to pay a premium for better quality/safety standards. inter-cell coatings exist to prevent thermal runaway - and these are used in industrial applications where batt fires can represent large production losses. until regulatory bodies require such protections (imposed on imports as well) high capacity consumer li-on batts (power tools,ebikes,euc) will continue to present risks to those who fail to store them without fire/smoke mitigation in mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercurio Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) On 1/18/2021 at 11:36 PM, Patrick Robert said: Both types are pretty bad. I'd like to avoid a battery fire as much as a burnt control board, or any other type of control board failure while I'm on the wheel! And I'm not talking about extreme testing like Marty's Overheat Hill runs, just regular use. A board failure (even without burning) leading to a cutoff while I'm riding at 50 km/h is far from insignificant. I could argue that board failures could lead to serious injury (on me and others as well), versus property damage in case of battery fire. At worst in either case you could end up buying the farm. It would be nice to have a more complete breakdown of failures, organized by failure type, yes. But this is a good start. Which makes me wonder how many burnt battery started as burnt mainboard. On Gotway/Begode wheels: Burnt motherboard can lead to shorting the battery packs. Gotway packs don't have BMS on their output for maximum throughput. A short can lead to a battery fire. Motherboard fire can start a fire of the packs themselves, because of their physical proximity. At least for Begode wheels, the recent addition of a fuse should mitigate the very significant risk of fire by shortening the pack on MOSFET failure. Edited May 26, 2021 by supercurio Mentioning addition of fuse recently 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camenbert Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 3 hours ago, supercurio said: Which makes me wonder how many burnt battery started as burnt mainboard. OK you convince me to add a ANL fuse when I'll add my secondary battery. However some fire happen while charging (MB not concerned). Have we an idea of what proportion ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercurio Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Camenbert said: OK you convince me to add a ANL fuse when I'll add my secondary battery. However some fire happen while charging (MB not concerned). Have we an idea of what proportion ? Fuses are a very good idea and a requirement IMHO in case the BMS doesn't have a quick and effective short protection (which some have) The risk while charging seem fairly low, maybe thanks to the combination of reasonably well calibrated chargers and top-balancing BMS, making it the safer part of the whole process apparently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, supercurio said: On Gotway/Begode wheels: Burnt motherboard can lead to shorting the battery packs. Motherboard fire can start a fire of the packs themselves, because of their physical proximity. I don't think any of the actual fires fit that description. All we have is anecdotal evidence of burned up controllers which didn't cause pack fires. It would have to be a 'fire while riding'; the handful of those that we've seen have been wheels with electrical modifications. Perhaps the only plausible example was the EUC that burned in a shipping container... if it became powered on in a box, overloaded because of the jammed tire, and exceptionally well insulated in its sealed foam and cardboard box. 15 hours ago, supercurio said: The risk while charging seem fairly low No! An important circumstance to consider is: Cell becomes internally shorted due to internal defects, or over-discharge. Damaged cell now conducts current from the remaining cells in series (during use) and in parallel (all the time), and dissipates heat because of this current flow. Damaged cell or neighboring cells either become depleted (0V), or reach runaway temperature. Recharging the damaged cell provides a practically unlimited source of energy to generate more heat, and so heating will continue as long as the charger is supplying current. Runaway temperature will be reached if the charger remains connected long enough. #1-3 are not preventable: there is nothing to stop the pack from being used with a damaged cell present. Fuses will not help because the current flow is still within the normal operating range. If #1 is the 'internal defect' problem, it could surface any time the cell is being used- it could be charging, or discharging. #4 is partially covered by the EUC BMS disabling the charging input if any cell is under-voltage. But this mechanism can fail if the BMS is damaged, especially by water and corrosion. The risk of an indoor fire is highest while charging. The risk is especially noteworthy for: Brand-new cells and packs Packs that were submerged in water (even if it occurred days or weeks in the past) Packs that show irregular charging behavior (e.g.: won't charge past 90%) Damage to people and property can be minimized by charging in a safer environment, such as outdoors, or inside a metal cabinet. Edited May 27, 2021 by RagingGrandpa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Just tried some categorizing in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-1dcGO7C5yDs4PqLzl9A4Bu6SU9mSjIhJwLoFoASyio/edit?usp=sharing I hope i got the details right Fire 14 GW 8 KS 2 Ninebot 1 IPS 1 Riding 5 Off 5 Transport 2 Charging 3 On 5/26/2021 at 8:32 PM, supercurio said: Burnt motherboard can lead to shorting the battery packs. Gotway packs don't have BMS on their output for maximum throughput. A short can lead to a battery fire. 23 hours ago, RagingGrandpa said: I don't think any of the actual fires fit that description. There are 5 "potential" cases. With Fire during riding - but these are "only" 3 GW,1 KS and 1 IPS. 1 of the GW was original, one from Loomo Shop modified and from one one does not know? But could of course be any other case of Weld/BMS/whatever cause. 23 hours ago, RagingGrandpa said: The risk of an indoor fire is highest while charging. There seem to be more case (at least collected here) without charging - just off. Although at least one case is not 100% clear if it was while charging... But anyhow most cases reported are with the EUC standing around... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GoGeorgeGo Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) The only fire my friend group has experienced was with a nikola+. Its was on a ride but not while riding, the wheel was leaned up against a wall as my friend was smoking a cigarette. It started hissing and smoking so he moved it away from the wall. A couple loud pops (the capacitors blowing we think) a lot of smoke and a ton of damage, definitely a small fire. Luckily the batteries did not go though so the wheel was kinda sorta salvageable. Cost him 800$ to get it repaired (even though it was warrantied by ewheels) and he still does not trust the wheel anymore to this day. (This happened back in Novemberish) Not a battery fire but still a fire, and a very traumatized rider who has essentially quit the hobby due to this incident. (Not to mention he was called a liar and shamed and even had his posts deleted about the incident and the way ewheels handled his repair so he really has a bad taste for the entire community and hobby now) He no longer rides for pleasure and wants to sell his machine, but is afraid to sell someone a faulty machine so he is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Edited May 28, 2021 by GoGeorgeGo 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, GoGeorgeGo said: couple loud pops (the capacitors blowing we think) a lot of smoke Gotway boards... we've all been there or known someone; $250 board replacement, life goes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GoGeorgeGo Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, RagingGrandpa said: Gotway boards... we've all been there or known someone; $250 board replacement, life goes on. Unfortunately it was much more than the board, the case was warped from the heat, the gaskets where torched, the wiring was damaged, the tire bubbled, the headlight and speakers where torched. It was really totalled imo but they salvaged what they could and rebuilt his machine. Thats the reason his warranty repair costs where so high, they didnt cover the case the tire the headlight the speakers plus the shipping. Hence his displeasure with the way his repair was handled, a faulty machine cost him 800$ to repair, and ontop of that he was called a liar when he thought the repair was done improperly (the headlight he recieved was much dimmer than the original which made him completely distrust the totality of the repair.) Edited May 28, 2021 by GoGeorgeGo 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conecones Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 hours ago, GoGeorgeGo said: The only fire my friend group has experienced was with a nikola+. Its was on a ride but not while riding, the wheel was leaned up against a wall as my friend was smoking a cigarette. It started hissing and smoking so he moved it away from the wall. A couple loud pops (the capacitors blowing we think) a lot of smoke and a ton of damage, definitely a small fire. Luckily the batteries did not go though so the wheel was kinda sorta salvageable. Cost him 800$ to get it repaired (even though it was warrantied by ewheels) and he still does not trust the wheel anymore to this day. (This happened back in Novemberish) Not a battery fire but still a fire, and a very traumatized rider who has essentially quit the hobby due to this incident. (Not to mention he was called a liar and shamed and even had his posts deleted about the incident and the way ewheels handled his repair so he really has a bad taste for the entire community and hobby now) He no longer rides for pleasure and wants to sell his machine, but is afraid to sell someone a faulty machine so he is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Do you know any other details? Like mileage, year..etc. The board looks old...like a 1st generation, but the battery size looks to be 21700, so I assume this is early 2nd gen Nik+? if that's the case, might want to check if these are Panasonic or LG 21700 as there was a recall last year for the Panasonic cells. The board has been revised since last year and the beeper location also changed. The new board and fan arrangement looks very similar to the RS now. Temperature alarm has also been increased to 79-80 Celsius vs the 65 before and the heatsink is exposed now as well. Photo below is the new board from Nov last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGeorgeGo Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, conecones said: Do you know any other details? Like mileage, year..etc. The board looks old...like a 1st generation, but the battery size looks to be 21700, so I assume this is early 2nd gen Nik+? if that's the case, might want to check if these are Panasonic or LG 21700 as there was a recall last year for the Panasonic cells. The board has been revised since last year and the beeper location also changed. The new board and fan arrangement looks very similar to the RS now. Temperature alarm has also been increased to 79-80 Celsius vs the 65 before and the heatsink is exposed now as well. Photo below is the new board from Nov last year. Yes he had the recalled cells but he had already got the packs swapped long before the incident. It was a fairly early nikola, he had around 1500-2000 miles on it. All the more reason he was so shaken up by the incident. It was a wheel he trusted and had put decent mileage on, no reason really for it to go off like that. Edited May 28, 2021 by GoGeorgeGo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourAubsome Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Another Gotway... looks like a RS to me:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/4329259460505317/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, sevin7 said: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/4329259460505317/ "MSP hs charged inside house to 100% not sitting in hot car put wheel in hatch back to meet my friend to ride going down the highway smoke filled the car pulled over and put wheel on side of highway then fire and a few cells exploded ?!? Not crashed not ridden in any wet weather about 2k miles " "never been opened" Wonder if it stopped burning on its own? Rare for so much of the pack to be left... Edited September 23, 2021 by RagingGrandpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothamMike Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, sevin7 said: Another Gotway... looks like a RS to me:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/4329259460505317/ The GW Boyz will call you mean names! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Seems like not a lot of people want to look at this objectively and just want to discredit brands. Knowledge is power and knowing causes behind these incidents would be helpful for everyone riding an EUC and worth a lot more than a few simple laughs. It would be interesting to know what is causing these spontaneous fires, logically it has to be a short happening but why? Is it bad soldering, water, battery instability? Has any of these incidents any post-incident investigation and conclusion? Someone much knowledgable then me on this forum could probably chime in with a couple of probable causes other than "it's Gotway". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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