greentung Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Hi @Marty Backe. I've watched your MSP test video and review. The one thing I didn't think addressed was the low speed handling of the MSP. Can I comfortably ride the MSP on the sidewalk near pedestrians like the mten3 and to a lesser extent, Z10? Or does the 18" wheel make slow and tight maneuvering too difficult? Thanks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefteris Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 If you ride the MSX on slow rides manoeuvring thru pedestrians it's the same thing. It's a bit large, you'll need to step off many times to stop and then ride again. It's a big wheel but you can manage.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, greentung said: Hi @Marty Backe. I've watched your MSP test video and review. The one thing I didn't think addressed was the low speed handling of the MSP. Can I comfortably ride the MSP on the sidewalk near pedestrians like the mten3 and to a lesser extent, Z10? Or does the 18" wheel make slow and tight maneuvering too difficult? Thanks. Any wheel can be ridden slowly with appropriate skill and I have no issues riding near pedestrians. But it's a lot more work next to smaller wheels, in particular the Mten3. The Mten3 is truly effortless to ride slower than walking speed. You have the Nikola. The MSP/MSX would only require slightly more effort. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lefteris Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: Great video, we needed one for lights. What no Nikola Plus ? Edited March 7, 2020 by Lefteris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, Lefteris said: Great video, we needed one for lights. What no Nikola Plus ? Just in case some people don't get the joke, all versions of the Nikola use the same headlight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefteris Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 It's all about "Lights" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 38 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: Just in case some people don't get the joke, all versions of the Nikola use the same headlight. And its easy enough to fit one into the MSX too... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefteris Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Planemo said: And its easy enough to fit one into the MSX too... Wiring the same? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Lefteris said: Wiring the same? I believe so. I have the light and a new stock msx surround but havent got round to fitting it yet. Its only 2 wires so if the plug isnt the same I will just solder in the old one. Surround needs dremeling out but I have had a good look and its not a big deal. No idea if the Nik light is that much better than the msx but its worth a go. The nik light conversion has already been done before, I think it was on a polish msx. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 @Marty Backe, truly excellent video! But holy motherload that MSP headlight coming against you at nighttime...! It's surely going to cause issues. What was interesting to me was that the 18XL headlight is not worse than a few others, but the light beam was contained much better, so it didn't point up to the camera as much. I only wish Gotway could be made to realize this as a thing to aim for as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 hour ago, mrelwood said: @Marty Backe, truly excellent video! But holy motherload that MSP headlight coming against you at nighttime...! It's surely going to cause issues. What was interesting to me was that the 18XL headlight is not worse than a few others, but the light beam was contained much better, so it didn't point up to the camera as much. I only wish Gotway could be made to realize this as a thing to aim for as well. Give them a few more years 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) Hello Marty - on the "headlight vid" - do You have Z10 with old lamp as installed in the first Z10 units, or the "second generation" which was properly shining on the road instead of tree tops? For MSP double headlight - is it shining "on the road" or "all around"? Edited March 9, 2020 by Lukasz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Lukasz said: Hello Marty - on the "headlight vid" - do You have Z10 with old lamp as installed in the first Z10 units, or the "second generation" which was properly shining on the road instead of tree tops? For MSP double headlight - is it shining "on the road" or "all around"? I have the original Z10 with original light. The MSP shines on the road and all around 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Slargo83 Posted March 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2020 I just put a deposit down for the MSP at eWheels and signed up for this forum. Can't wait! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Slargo83 said: I just put a deposit down for the MSP at eWheels and signed up for this forum. Can't wait! Fantastic. I'm sure you're excited. I gather this is your first wheel? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miehlvin Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Thank you, Marty, for the entertaining and informative MSP videos. I am considering buying this wheel as I mainly like to ride offroad. Can't wait to try it out when my Gotway dealer gets them in stock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_bike_kite Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Very interesting video though I did get a bit lost jumping between the list on the left and the wheels zipping past. You can easily see that the MSP puts out more light but it seems to do so at the expense of oncoming traffic. In the UK we tend to turn our own full beam on when oncoming drivers are dazzling us with their high beam. In France they tend to drive straight at you. I think I prefer the KS approach of keeping the light on the road. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Slargo83 Posted March 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Marty Backe said: Fantastic. I'm sure you're excited. I gather this is your first wheel? Yes sir it sure is and I am definitely very excited. It took about a month to decide which wheel to get but after watching you conquer Overheat Hill, that sealed the deal right there. I weigh right around 200lbs so the extra torque is very welcomed. I plan to learn in the grass as to not damage it too bad initially. I'm sure the damage will still come haha 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 hours ago, mike_bike_kite said: Very interesting video though I did get a bit lost jumping between the list on the left and the wheels zipping past. You can easily see that the MSP puts out more light but it seems to do so at the expense of oncoming traffic. In the UK we tend to turn our own full beam on when oncoming drivers are dazzling us with their high beam. In France they tend to drive straight at you. I think I prefer the KS approach of keeping the light on the road. When I receive my personal copy I'm going to experiment to see if a light "hood" would be effective at blocking the light from blinding motorists. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Slargo83 said: Yes sir it sure is and I am definitely very excited. It took about a month to decide which wheel to get but after watching you conquer Overheat Hill, that sealed the deal right there. I weigh right around 200lbs so the extra torque is very welcomed. I plan to learn in the grass as to not damage it too bad initially. I'm sure the damage will still come haha Lots of fun times ahead. An exciting upcoming summer for you 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Q Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 40 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: Lots of fun times ahead. An exciting upcoming summer for you Just like you, l really look forward for my MSP for this Summer！！ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slargo83 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Marty Backe said: Lots of fun times ahead. An exciting upcoming summer for you You're definitely not lying. I've had so much fun exploring on my Boosted Board and Onewheel XR but range anxiety is always present. With the MSP, I'm sure my legs will give out before the battery does. Definitely a good thing! In a month or 2, my current job is ending so I plan on buying a Prius to do some touring around the country. I definitely plan on exploring more of Southern California (only been through there twice). Hopefully I can get into one of your group rides while I'm there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas83 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 most wheels = old fashioned H4 halogen bulb msp = BMW High performance LEDs holy this is so bright, unbelievable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrd777 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 On 3/10/2020 at 9:01 PM, Slargo83 said: I just put a deposit down for the MSP at eWheels and signed up for this forum. Can't wait! Why do I feel that as soon as the first release is out of the MSP, there will be a major improvement released SHORTLY after? It’s happened with Gotway on almost half the wheels I’ve purchased on preorder through dealers and Gotway themselves. I can see them changing the light to a two stage brightness level, a larger battery, higher voltage, or something significant that I’m not aware of. (Like a better model, 20 inch, 126v hint hint) I'm trying to hold off, as I’ve seen this movie before. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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