SlowMo Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) 17 minutes ago, johnc415 said: Wow... I'm stunned... You mean to tell me this whole time we weren't dealing with IPS!? So that proves the reply of IPS manufacturer saying the Zero is still not for the international market since it is still under evaluation. Edited November 2, 2015 by SlowMo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micro Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I am not 100% sure, but I am going to double check that. http://www.iamips.com/product-show-23 this looks much more detailed than the information on Tony's site, no? 1 hour ago, SlowMo said: So that proves the reply of IPS manufacturer saying the Zero is still not for the international market since it is still under evaluation. Yes, that is a proof, and 1 billion people are testing it for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowMo Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) 5 hours ago, micro said: I am not 100% sure, but I am going to double check that. http://www.iamips.com/product-show-23 this looks much more detailed than the information on Tony's site, no? Yes, that is a proof, and 1 billion people are testing it for us If you look at the website and go to the english page, you won't find the Zero in their product listing. Implicitly saying that the product is not for sale outside China. Edited November 3, 2015 by SlowMo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninebot one p Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Where can I buy an IPS141 340w Zero in the USA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowMo Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Just now, ninbotonep said: Where can I buy an IPS141 340w Zero in the USA? They don't have them in stock yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Panait Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SWj-0mu3NH0 I have moved to advanced. Now I take my kid to the kindergarten :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagsy Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) So basically Tony is someone who took the opportunity that IPS doesn't distribute outside of China to make some money and sell the Zero in other countries .... Did i understand correctly? Edited November 3, 2015 by Pagsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micro Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 4 hours ago, Paul Panait said: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SWj-0mu3NH0 I have moved to advanced. Now I take my kid to the kindergarten :) This is a very bad idea in my humble opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Panait Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 7 hours ago, micro said: This is a very bad idea in my humble opinion. Good point, but please consider: Speed max 8kph, distance 800 m, helmets on. At this speed you can just climb of if anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowMo Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 12 minutes ago, Paul Panait said: Good point, but please consider: Speed max 8kph, distance 800 m, helmets on. At this speed you can just climb of if anything. Still dangerous Paul. Please do not put your child in harms way. It takes only one mistake or one equipment malfunction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Panait Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) 4 hours ago, SlowMo said: Still dangerous Paul. Please do not put your child in harms way. It takes only one mistake or one equipment malfunction. Good point. Today we walked it is literally a walk in the park frommy place to kindergarten so we will enjoy that instead. Edited November 4, 2015 by Paul Panait Not complete 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 59 minutes ago, Paul Panait said: Good point. Today we walked it is literally a walk in the park frommy place to kindergarten so we will enjoy that instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowMo Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 On 11/2/2015, 10:08:38, micro said: The Austrian importer (see here: http://en.iamips.com/contact.html) of IPS wrote me an E-mail where he states that http://www.iamips.com/ is the manufacturer and http://ipselectricunicycle.com/ is a reseller. This would explain our "Tony"-advetures. I think ipselectricunicycle is the manufacturer. His price is the factory price for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esaj Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 8 hours ago, SlowMo said: I think ipselectricunicycle is the manufacturer. His price is the factory price for sure. I don't know for sure, but I think it has been mentioned elsewhere in the forums before that iamips is the original manufacturer site. Couldn't find the thread right now, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowMo Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) 22 minutes ago, esaj said: I don't know for sure, but I think it has been mentioned elsewhere in the forums before that iamips is the original manufacturer site. Couldn't find the thread right now, though. I got a quote from both for the Zero 340 wh and ipselectricunicycle.com's price is lower by 90 USD. Edited November 4, 2015 by SlowMo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esaj Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SlowMo said: I got a quote from both for the Zero 340 wh and ipsunicycle.com's price is lower by 90 USD. They could buy in bulk, have better deals for international shipping (for them, meaning cheaper), have lower margins etc... I got a Firewheel mainboard at almost half the price from a reseller vs. factory quote (for single piece). EDIT: Granted that the factory price was much higher mostly due to shipping & customs/import taxes, but I doubt the reseller has to pay as much per board if they order in bulk. Edited November 4, 2015 by esaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowMo Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 2 minutes ago, esaj said: They could buy in bulk, have better deals for international shipping, have lower margins etc... I got a Firewheel mainboard at almost half the price from a reseller vs. factory quote (for single piece). I was just wondering. Why should the factory sell at a price which is 20% higher than the cheapest reseller. Isn't it supposed to be factory price? Iamaps's price is even higher compared to Taobao sellers. And when I asked if they have it in stock, they said they need to check with the factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esaj Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 1 minute ago, SlowMo said: I was just wondering. Why should the factory sell at a price which is 20% higher than the cheapest reseller. Isn't it supposed to be factory price? Iamaps's price is even higher compared to Taobao sellers. And when I asked if they have it in stock, they said they need to check with the factory. Probably because the reseller could buy hundreds of units in one go, and thus get a single unit at a much lower price than when buying one at a time. "Checking from factory" could simply mean that the sales department is separate from the factory. Also, if you check http://en.iamips.com/about.html : About IPS Shanghai IPS Investment Co. Ltd is one of the first domestic integrated enterprise specialized in the Research and Development, manufacturing and marketing of the Self-Balancing Electric Unicycle. 7 years' study finally completes the R&D of the key technology and IPS has already obtained a number of core technology patents in self-balancing industry. It even used to be reported by CCTV, a famous TV channel in China. It surely is the leader of the same industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowMo Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 1 minute ago, esaj said: Probably because the reseller could buy hundreds of units in one go, and thus get a single unit at a much lower price than when buying one at a time. "Checking from factory" could simply mean that the sales department is separate from the factory. Also, if you check http://en.iamips.com/about.html : About IPS Shanghai IPS Investment Co. Ltd is one of the first domestic integrated enterprise specialized in the Research and Development, manufacturing and marketing of the Self-Balancing Electric Unicycle. 7 years' study finally completes the R&D of the key technology and IPS has already obtained a number of core technology patents in self-balancing industry. It even used to be reported by CCTV, a famous TV channel in China. It surely is the leader of the same industry. Funny but here's the about page of IPS Electric Unicycle: IPS Electric Unicycle IPS Electric Unicycle Co., Ltd. is the first domestic integrated enterprise that specializes in the development, research, manufacture, and marketing of Self Balancing Electric Unicycle. We are the first company in China to have achieved a number of national technology patents by mastering the core patent technology of the Self Balancing System. We did this after prolonged and heavy research and development of Self Balancing Systems and unicycle electric scooters. Over the past few years, we have successfully built a network of dealers and agents, all across the country. In addition to that, we have also tapped into the lucrative markets overseas such as UK, Germany, Austria, and Singapore. Our agent and dealers network include hundreds of dedicated individuals, working day and night to provide you with the best service and products. Due to our combined efforts, our monthly combined sales exceed 5000 units, across the globe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esaj Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 1 minute ago, SlowMo said: Funny but here's the about page of IPS Electric Unicycle: IPS Electric Unicycle IPS Electric Unicycle Co., Ltd. is the first domestic integrated enterprise that specializes in the development, research, manufacture, and marketing of Self Balancing Electric Unicycle. We are the first company in China... I think @Jason McNeil is the best person to answer this, as I believe he has direct contact to the IPS factory. Jason, do you know which is the "real" manufacturer site? Or is it even either of those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paddylaz Posted November 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2015 IPS's Tony waiting for that next Zero order to be placed 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowMo Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Just now, paddylaz said: IPS's Tony waiting for that next Zero order to be placed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micro Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 An enlightened manufacturer supports its distributors. That is, in case you can buy from the manufacturer (mostly you cannot, as in our case), you have to pay more than to the average distributor (I am distributor for inverters). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason McNeil Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 3 hours ago, SlowMo said: Funny but here's the about page of IPS Electric Unicycle: IPS Electric Unicycle IPS Electric Unicycle Co., Ltd. is the first domestic integrated enterprise that specializes in the development, research, manufacture, and marketing of Self Balancing Electric Unicycle.... That's hilarious! I helped 'official' IPS write this up last year for a trade show in Hong Kong, then IPS Electric Unicycles have done the typical wholesale appropriation of the others materials because their incapable of writing anything original themselves. @SlowMoYou should know better than to doubt @esaj, few are more scrupulous about their fact checking 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowMo Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) 8 hours ago, Jason McNeil said: That's hilarious! I helped 'official' IPS write this up last year for a trade show in Hong Kong, then IPS Electric Unicycles have done the typical wholesale appropriation of the others materials because their incapable of writing anything original themselves. @SlowMoYou should know better than to doubt @esaj, few are more scrupulous about their fact checking Thanks @esaj and @Jason McNeil ! Just placed an order with the official IPS store. Guess who. Hello, we have received your payment of $XXX, we'll produce it today and will have a tracking# on next monday I guess. Thanks for your support in IPS. Best regards Official IPS Store Edited November 5, 2015 by SlowMo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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