Begode ET MAX Announcement

[Ser_skele]

On 4/14/2024 at 2:36 PM, WheelGoodTime said:

Here an analysis of my recent crash on the ET Max from a few days ago.

 

This looks just like my crash with the same reason. Too quickly assessed the tire pressure to be adequate for riding and went on my way. I did the same "look down at the wheel, something feels off" and then just like you in an instant it felt like ice under the wheel (felt like it slipped to the left from under me, right foot sank with the pedal)and I went down just like you. At that moment I saw no reason for the crash. Steady speed, good road conditions, going straight, nothing amiss at all. And boom you're down wondering wtf just happened 🤯 when I finally gathered myself I noticed the tire completely flat, Innertube had failed at the valve. I can only assume the lacking tire pressure allowed the tube to move around just a little bit so it chafed the valve and then it tore and let the last bit of air out in an instant and puff down we go.

[WheelGoodTime]

On 4/14/2024 at 1:10 PM, Robse said:

Is this filmed with a 360 cam? if it is, you should probably be able to turn the viewing angle down to look closeup at the tire - maybe you can actually see that it lacks air pressure?

yes, I filmed it with an insta360. it's filmed in 5.7k, but when it's facing in one particular direction, then the resolution is not the greatest. I might pop for their new 8k camera that is about to be announced, just so I can get the highest quality footage  But in this case i dont think it' shows how flat it was, but I'll review it further to see if there's any way to tell a bit better.

[WheelGoodTime]

8 hours ago, Ser_skele said:

This looks just like my crash with the same reason. Too quickly assessed the tire pressure to be adequate for riding and went on my way. I did the same "look down at the wheel, something feels off" and then just like you in an instant it felt like ice under the wheel (felt like it slipped to the left from under me, right foot sank with the pedal)and I went down just like you. At that moment I saw no reason for the crash. Steady speed, good road conditions, going straight, nothing amiss at all. And boom you're down wondering wtf just happened 🤯 when I finally gathered myself I noticed the tire completely flat, Innertube had failed at the valve. I can only assume the lacking tire pressure allowed the tube to move around just a little bit so it chafed the valve and then it tore and let the last bit of air out in an instant and puff down we go.

wow, that's awful. Stupid question, but did this also happen on the ET Max? I still can't tell conclusively whether it was overinflated or underinflated, but I am strongly leaning toward that being the case - one or the other I don't know. On one hand, I feel responsible for needing to check the tire pressure prior to my first ride, but on the other hand I believe every company should ship their EUCs (at least with cargo shipped wheels) with properly inflated tires because it's a critical QC matter of safety for users.

Edited April 17 by WheelGoodTime

[Punxatawneyjoe]

1 hour ago, WheelGoodTime said:

 But in this case i dont think it' shows how flat it was,

Strangely enough, it looked more like when you looked down, the wheel started slowly tilting to the right and you didn't notice it until you looked back up and by then it was to late. It was already leaning against your right leg and you couldn't recover. My guess is the valve stem happened during the crash. If the tire had blown that quickly the euc would have wobbled or done something out of the ordinary aside from just slowly tilt to one side. It's happened to @Forwardnbak before, the same thing.

[Cerbera]

2 hours ago, WheelGoodTime said:

I might pop for their new 8k camera that is about to be announced, just so I can get the highest quality footage

God alone knows how they plan to keep 8K60 cool, but best of luck to 'em !!

[Robse]

21 minutes ago, Cerbera said:

God alone knows how they plan to keep 8K60 cool, but best of luck to 'em !!

"do not use this device unless the surrounding airspeed exceeds 40 mph"

[noonewantstobepeterchris]

18 minutes ago, Robse said:

"do not use this device unless the surrounding airspeed exceeds 40 mph"

And a lot of “AI up-scaling” 

[Tomallo]

1 hour ago, Cerbera said:

God alone knows how they plan to keep 8K60 cool, but best of luck to 'em !!

On their website it reads 8K30 actually, still, very cool

[Robse]

Re Insta 360 X4:  I could wish for one, just for the sake of image quality, but on the other hand, Full HD at 60 fps is relatively heavy to render
and process for longer clips, and the latest video I made with four Full HD clips simultaneously was about to kill my computer, and it's even fairly powerful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9LqE-ToUto

 

[Robse]

4 hours ago, Punxatawneyjoe said:

Strangely enough, it looked more like when you looked down, the wheel started slowly tilting to the right and you didn't notice it until you looked back up and by then it was to late. It was already leaning against your right leg and you couldn't recover. My guess is the valve stem happened during the crash. If the tire had blown that quickly the euc would have wobbled or done something out of the ordinary aside from just slowly tilt to one side. It's happened to @Forwardnbak before, the same thing.

it's actually quite strange because I was thinking exactly the same thing, precisely because it looks so strange that the wheels just pull out to the right and there's nothing to do - it just happens, just like when @Forwardnbak crashed his V13.  As if the wheel has suddenly decided to turn to one side, and then it cannot be saved.

[Ser_skele]

On 4/17/2024 at 11:22 PM, Robse said:

it's actually quite strange because I was thinking exactly the same thing, precisely because it looks so strange that the wheels just pull out to the right and there's nothing to do - it just happens, just like when @Forwardnbak crashed his V13.  As if the wheel has suddenly decided to turn to one side, and then it cannot be saved.

Yes there's was nothing to do at all. "Somethings off" -> face plant in a second it felt like. Just enough time to think it feels weird and then you're tossed.

[Ser_skele]

On 4/17/2024 at 5:57 PM, WheelGoodTime said:

wow, that's awful. Stupid question, but did this also happen on the ET Max? I still can't tell conclusively whether it was overinflated or underinflated, but I am strongly leaning toward that being the case - one or the other I don't know. On one hand, I feel responsible for needing to check the tire pressure prior to my first ride, but on the other hand I believe every company should ship their EUCs (at least with cargo shipped wheels) with properly inflated tires because it's a critical QC matter of safety for users.

No it was on an ex20s 

[BleepBloopBlop]

Isn't the ET Max being shipped tubeless? Sounds like you were running too low of pressure and debeaded the tire from the rim if it is indeed tubeless.

[Suzuha]

14 minutes ago, BleepBloopBlop said:

Isn't the ET Max being shipped tubeless? Sounds like you were running too low of pressure and debeaded the tire from the rim if it is indeed tubeless.

Maybe through ewheels - everywhere else is selling them with a tube. They all have tubeless tires stock but come with a tube.

[Ronin]

2 hours ago, BleepBloopBlop said:

Isn't the ET Max being shipped tubeless? Sounds like you were running too low of pressure and debeaded the tire from the rim if it is indeed tubeless.

It is not. Its a tubeless compatible rim only 👍

Edited April 20 by Ronin Ryder

[mhpr262]

On 3/11/2024 at 10:13 PM, techyiam said:

so no more 3600 Wh makes sense

With a battery pack that big a 5p pack shouldnt be too difficult, so something yery close to 3.600Wh would still be possible, wouldnt it?

[meepmeepmayer]

5p would be 3700Wh.

[techyiam]

6 hours ago, mhpr262 said:

With a battery pack that big a 5p pack shouldnt be too difficult, so something yery close to 3.600Wh would still be possible, wouldnt it?

Using odd number of packs means more complications. One would have to decide how to split the fifth pack equally on either side.

The S18 has an odd-number-of-packs configuration. But the four packs could not be the same.

 

Just had a thought. Maybe the fifth pack could be a swappable pack at the top of the wheel, underneath the controller compartment?

[Raptor]

On 3/11/2024 at 2:26 PM, Ronin Ryder said:

Received the ET MAX for testing purposes. Insane power:

 

Hello from distant Estonia

I also received my ET Max and just went to test and set it up.
When charging the battery, however, I noticed that the balancing was not performed properly. During the test drive, my ET currently has a rather sluggish acceleration. You need to push hard for acceleration .
In your video, you mentioned a software update that improved ET's behavior. Can you tell me what software number it is and whether it is freely downloadable via Eucworld or Begode APP, for example?

[Cerbera]

56 minutes ago, Raptor said:

During the test drive, my ET currently has a rather sluggish acceleration. You need to push hard for acceleration .

It's a very big heavy wheel, and all wheels that size take some effort to initially accelerate from standstill. You could change the ride mode to soft or medium, which should make that feel easier. Or change pad placement / ride technique to try and impart more ride authority to the wheel. I had to change the whole way I leaned when I moved from an 18 inch wheel to a heavy 20 incher. Much more emphasis on knees into pads than before, but it does get easier with time and XP on the wheel.

The ET Max stock pads look much better than anything Begode has done before, but I would bet they are still not wide enough to properly hook your shins into - the stock ones on my Master were similarly narrow, and I too struggled to accelerate properly with them. Grizzla Flows, and the aforementioned change in technique fixed it for me.

Firmware updates are best done via EUC World which allows you to resume if they fail, but not having an ET Max myself I don't know the numbers or if EUCW supports the model yet. I think I recall one of the SoCal riders saying it does though.

Edited April 27 by Cerbera

[Raptor]

59 minutes ago, Cerbera said:

It's a very big heavy wheel, and all wheels that size take some effort to initially accelerate from standstill. You could change the ride mode to soft or medium, which should make that feel easier. Or change pad placement / ride technique to try and impart more ride authority to the wheel. I had to change the whole way I leaned when I moved from an 18 inch wheel to a heavy 20 incher. Much more emphasis on knees into pads than before, but it does get easier with time and XP on the wheel.

The ET Max stock pads look much better than anything Begode has done before, but I would bet they are still not wide enough to properly hook your shins into - the stock ones on my Master were similarly narrow, and I too struggled to accelerate properly with them. Grizzla Flows, and the aforementioned change in technique fixed it for me.

Firmware updates are best done via EUC World which allows you to resume if they fail, but not having an ET Max myself I don't know the numbers or if EUCW supports the model yet. I think I recall one of the SoCal riders saying it does though.

Thank you for wanting to help anyway !

In fact, I know of many EUCs . I have been driving them since 2014. Monster Pro was also difficult and similar. Master is my previous EUC etc. (Master accelerates very easily when driving in my opinion).
I was more interested in Ronin's claim that he got software that made ET's behavior more lively :). The visible balancing disturbance when charging the battery is also a bit disturbing (it can also see what is happening in the battery and BMS work, etc. through the APP). But before updating the software, I would be happy to hear what the good version was .

[techyiam]

21 minutes ago, Raptor said:

Master is my previous EUC etc. (Master accelerates very easily when driving in my opinion).

I found the Master V4 accelerates the easiest by far when compared to the EX30, and ET Max. I would rate the ET Max a distant third. Theses were other people's wheels, so I don't know what the firmware and settings were.

[Raptor]

6 hours ago, Raptor said:

Hello from distant Estonia

I also received my ET Max and just went to test and set it up.
When charging the battery, however, I noticed that the balancing was not performed properly. During the test drive, my ET currently has a rather sluggish acceleration. You need to push hard for acceleration .
In your video, you mentioned a software update that improved ET's behavior. Can you tell me what software number it is and whether it is freely downloadable via Eucworld or Begode APP, for example?

Hello again everyone.
Now it turned out that I am too impatient and I updated the software offered through the Begode APP to 2026002.
(I originally had ET 2026001 in the original).
Now, after the test drives, I would like it back 2026001! I don't like the behavior of this update at all! Do I have any chance for that?
The Begode APP software page has test and project ET software. There are no numbers on the software, but production dates. Does anyone know if any of them could have been 2026001?

[Raptor]

 

On 4/27/2024 at 4:41 PM, Raptor said:

Hello from distant Estonia

I also received my ET Max and just went to test and set it up.
When charging the battery, however, I noticed that the balancing was not performed properly. During the test drive, my ET currently has a rather sluggish acceleration. You need to push hard for acceleration .
In your video, you mentioned a software update that improved ET's behavior. Can you tell me what software number it is and whether it is freely downloadable via Eucworld or Begode APP, for example?

Hello again everyone.
Now it turned out that I am too impatient and I updated the software offered through the Begode APP to 2026002.
(I originally had ET 2026001 in the original).
Now, after the test drives, I would like it back 2026001! I don't like the behavior of this update at all! Do I have any chance for that?
The Begode APP software page has test and project ET software. There are no numbers on the software, but production dates. Does anyone know if any of them could have been 2026001?

[Raptor]

Hi everybody ,

I did the update for ET 2026002 offered by Begode and after several successful and good drives, in the morning I turned it on and rolled to the door and turned it off. I got dressed and switched ET back on, but it didn't start working anymore. Full brick. Has anyone else had ET and maybe something similar has happened and is there any good advice . I tried debricking Master and Master pro, but nothing changes