Eddie G. Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, mhpr262 said: How I ride my OG Veteran sherman at 45mph for the past 2 years. I just received my ex30 yesterday and I definitely have to get use to the weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabChampion Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, mhpr262 said: Good to know this needn't concern me since 99.9% of my riding is done way below 30 km/h, LOL. How people can trust their wheels enough to go 80 km/h and beyond I will never know. If you never ride past 80kmh, you'll never get the oscillations. In your case, you'll be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trailless Posted March 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2023 I haven't reached 50mph but I THOUGHT I felt oscillations at 30-40mph. I checked the tire and the tire wasn't seated evenly. Once I got it seated evenly, the oscillations went away. BTW took it out for another ride today and the wheel hits 45mph so fast, kind of scary how fast you get up to speed. The scarier thing is how stable it is at those speeds. The wheel just begs you to push the speed higher and higher... Anyway, the ride was only 20 miles today and I was literally yelling out loud because of how much fun I was having. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, trailless said: took it out for another ride today and the wheel hits 45mph so fast, kind of scary how fast you get up to speed. The scarier thing is how stable it is at those speeds. The wheel just begs you to push the speed higher and higher... Are you likening your out of the box EX30 much more than your Master? Is the EX30 more stable at high speeds than your original Sherman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailless Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 8 hours ago, techyiam said: Are you likening your out of the box EX30 much more than your Master? Is the EX30 more stable at high speeds than your original Sherman? I dont even want to ride my master anymore. The ex30 is that much more stable. Honestly thinking of selling the master because the ex30 made me realize the weight distribution on the master sucks... The sherman was what I learned on and I only had it for a little over a month. It overheated, blew a cap and dropped my while I was riding at 10mph... after that I got it fixed and sold it. So not much experience with the og sherman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, trailless said: weight distribution on the master sucks I am getting used to that now, and it is manageable, though I suspect I would feel the same as you had I had the opportunity to try the EX-30. I am beginning to wonder if there isn't anything I can do about that top-heaviness on the Master. What about strapping 2 large metal blocks to the underside of the pedals ?! I could take the range hit if it gave me a lower COG ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhpr262 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 It is probably a better idea to experiment with tires that have a "flat" cross section, not a "pointy" one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, mhpr262 said: It is probably a better idea to experiment with tires that have a "flat" cross section, not a "pointy" one. So you think a Michelin CityGrip Extra might do better in that regard than the stock CST 186 then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabChampion Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 47 minutes ago, Cerbera said: So you think a Michelin CityGrip Extra might do better in that regard than the stock CST 186 then ? Not sure about the citygrip extra, but i've tried the michelin pilot street 2 and shinko 244 on the master and it performs wonderfully. Smoother carving edge to edge. Still a bit top heavy unfortunately, but way more controllable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Cobaltsaber said: Not sure about the citygrip extra, but i've tried the michelin pilot street 2 and shinko 244 on the master and it performs wonderfully. Smoother carving edge to edge. Still a bit top heavy unfortunately, but way more controllable 25 miles to go 'til my 1000 mile service. Will swap it out then I reckon. Cheers for input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilvodka Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 What tire pressures are people using for the ex30? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie G. Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Lilvodka said: What tire pressures are people using for the ex30? I'm at 30psi and my weight is 135lbs I have my shock set to 250psi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie G. Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 9:46 PM, trailless said: I haven't reached 50mph but I THOUGHT I felt oscillations at 30-40mph. I checked the tire and the tire wasn't seated evenly. Once I got it seated evenly, the oscillations went away. BTW took it out for another ride today and the wheel hits 45mph so fast, kind of scary how fast you get up to speed. The scarier thing is how stable it is at those speeds. The wheel just begs you to push the speed higher and higher... Anyway, the ride was only 20 miles today and I was literally yelling out loud because of how much fun I was having. I reached 53mph yesterday and it didn't even feel like 50 no oscillating either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailless Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 12 hours ago, Lilvodka said: What tire pressures are people using for the ex30? 38-40lbs. Anything over 40lbs and I personally don't like how the stock tire behaves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zobbyblob Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 11 hours ago, Eddie G. said: I'm at 30psi and my weight is 135lbs I have my shock set to 250psi 1 hour ago, trailless said: 38-40lbs. Anything over 40lbs and I personally don't like how the stock tire behaves... I weigh 210 without gear, I'm at 35-40 psi. I tried 45 psi and didn't like the ride. I preferred the ride at 35 the most. I agreed with trailless, I didn't like the CST stock over 40ish. Shocks at 250psi, damper all the way out so the first indentations are just visible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koto Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 On 3/12/2023 at 2:18 PM, Cerbera said: I am getting used to that now, and it is manageable, though I suspect I would feel the same as you had I had the opportunity to try the EX-30. Yes, you can use the master like it is. But after riding the first time the EX30 you can immediately feel that the center of gravity is lower than on the master and you understand there there is too much weight on the top of the master. The EX30 is far heavier than the master but the weight is more manageable on the EX30 and at high speed the EX30 is much more stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jo Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 16 hours ago, Eddie G. said: I reached 53mph yesterday and it didn't even feel like 50 no oscillating either. can you please let me know which firmware is in your EX30? i suspect this one is still original GW2025003 ? not GW2025004 (this version caused oscillation)? I flashed back to GW2025003, and oscillation issue was gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie G. Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Steve Jo said: can you please let me know which firmware is in your EX30? i suspect this one is still original GW2025003 ? not GW2025004 (this version caused oscillation)? I flashed back to GW2025003, and oscillation issue was gone I will check later today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilvodka Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Is 5003 still available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robse Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 is it possible to lock the suspension in the same way as on a mountain bike, just as if the suspension is no present at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whalesmash Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, Robse said: is it possible to lock the suspension in the same way as on a mountain bike, just as if the suspension is no present at all? This would need a shock that has the appropriate lockout function. As is, the stock shock cannot do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhpr262 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, Robse said: is it possible to lock the suspension in the same way as on a mountain bike, just as if the suspension is no present at all? Cant one just let out the air from the stock shock and the effect would be the same? If not then it would probably not be too difficult to replace the stock shock with a simple metal bar with holes for the suspension linkage rods. You could have different holes for different pedal heights too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabChampion Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, mhpr262 said: Cant one just let out the air from the stock shock and the effect would be the same? If not then it would probably not be too difficult to replace the stock shock with a simple metal bar with holes for the suspension linkage rods. You could have different holes for different pedal heights too. Letting the air out of the shock still has the wheel bouncing up and down on the deflated shock. That added axis of movement make riding practically very awkward and risk damaging parts from constantly bottoming out the sliders The racers already do that. They replace the suspension with a suspension "delete" system which is just a metal bar that locks the suspension out. This exists for the master, but I imagine people will start offering it for the EX30 once racing season starts up again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie G. Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 14 hours ago, Steve Jo said: can you please let me know which firmware is in your EX30? i suspect this one is still original GW2025003 ? not GW2025004 (this version caused oscillation)? I flashed back to GW2025003, and oscillation issue was gone How do I check what firmware I have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jo Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Eddie G. said: How do I check what firmware I have? Only EUCworld or Wheellog can give u more details of current firmware. I'm not sure about darknessbot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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