RagingGrandpa Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) Looks like today's price for Commander Pro is 3000USD, china-direct: https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-commander-pro-unicycle.html?SearchText=commander+pro+unicycle&catId=0&dida=y&minPrice=1000 Compare to Sherman-S at 3900USD: https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-sherman-s-unicycle.html?SearchText=sherman+s+unicycle&catId=0&minPrice=3300.0 And EX30 at 3600USD: https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-EX30-unicycle.html?SearchText=EX30+unicycle&catId=0&minPrice=1000 Edited January 20, 2023 by RagingGrandpa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Ali gives me 3500-3600€ for the Commander Pro from Germany. Sherman-S is 3700-4700€ (???). Not sure how that will translate to local (EU) seller prices, but it looks like the Commander Pro might not be too expensive. Let's see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTTE Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 51 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: Ali gives me 3500-3600€ for the Commander Pro from Germany. Sherman-S is 3700-4700€ (???). Not sure how that will translate to local (EU) seller prices, but it looks like the Commander Pro might not be too expensive. Let's see. US market is saying $4000 through eWheels and Alien Rides 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTTE Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, EMA said: at the beginning i had bad feeling about this wheel , but it got a lot of modifications and right now seems really solid. i'll probably get one lol Jason at eWheels told me they've got a supply that's been completed waiting to go on a container and if everything goes to plan will be shipping out first week of next month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, RagingGrandpa said: Looks like today's price for Commander Pro is 3000USD, china-direct: https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-commander-pro-unicycle.html?SearchText=commander+pro+unicycle&catId=0&dida=y&minPrice=1000 Compare to Sherman-S at 3900USD: https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-sherman-s-unicycle.html?SearchText=sherman+s+unicycle&catId=0&minPrice=3300.0 And EX30 at 3600USD: https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-EX30-unicycle.html?SearchText=EX30+unicycle&catId=0&minPrice=1000 I would love to buy a EBCP for 3K USD, but I wonder why these prices are reduced so much? Are these prototype wheels? Have they been tested and refurbished in some way? Are they at a "discount" because it is not through a distributor and no warranty, etc? Edited January 20, 2023 by BKW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTTE Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, BKW said: I would love to buy a EBCP for 3K USD, but I wonder why these prices are reduced so much? Are these prototype wheels? Have they been tested and refurbished in some way? Are they at a "discount" because it is not through a distributor and no warranty, etc? They're likely direct from the manufacturer and/or do not have the warranty options you'll get dealing with a distributor local to you. Dealing with a distributor gives you a bit more leverage with recalls and warranty because the distributor has more pull versus a single owner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 39 minutes ago, BKW said: I would love to buy a EBCP for 3K USD, but I wonder why these prices are reduced so much? Are these prototype wheels? Have they been tested and refurbished in some way? Are they at a "discount" because it is not through a distributor and no warranty, etc? First batch Begode wheel directly from China? No thanks. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, techyiam said: First batch Begode wheel directly from China? No thanks. You make a good point here. At least with local distributors you can have some sense of comfort knowing they should have quality checked the wheel before sending them out to the customer + having a warranty. This actually may explain a big reason for the price difference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 46 minutes ago, BKW said: I would love to buy a EBCP for 3K USD Buying china-direct is a real option. You get a real new wheel, with all of the same new-wheel defect risks. Built in the same batch at the same factory by the same people. Paying more to a domestic vendor gets you customer support. Your choice. Both ways work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrMonoWheel Posted January 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, BKW said: I would love to buy a EBCP for 3K USD, but I wonder why these prices are reduced so much? Are these prototype wheels? Have they been tested and refurbished in some way? Are they at a "discount" because it is not through a distributor and no warranty, etc? I purchased a Sherman S from GTKing on AliExpress and paid 3275 out the door, I realized after I could have paid 3050 if I went through PayPal invoice vs AliExpress checkout. The wheel was brand new unused and just like all the ones eWheels/eevees has been shipping. The prices are reduced because it's straight from the factory and there's not as much overhead. Think about it, eevees has to pay to get them shipped here, possibly pay customs, pay for their rent, employees, other business expenses, and they still have to make a profit. Edit: regarding warranty stuff, from my research and first hand experience the seller is very responsive and willing to help with any issues, only down side is shipping takes a little longer. However seeing that eevees/ewheels would also have to order the parts from china (they don't have a stock of parts yet), I'd say it's about the same. Edited January 20, 2023 by MrMonoWheel 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GHOSTTE Posted January 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, MrMonoWheel said: I purchased a Sherman S from GTKing on AliExpress and paid 3275 out the door, I realized after I could have paid 3050 if I went through PayPal invoice vs AliExpress checkout. The wheel was brand new unused and just like all the ones eWheels/eevees has been shipping. The prices are reduced because it's straight from the factory and there's not as much overhead. Think about it, eevees has to pay to get them shipped here, possibly pay customs, pay for their rent, employees, other business expenses, and they still have to make a profit. Edit: regarding warranty stuff, from my research and first hand experience the seller is very responsive and willing to help with any issues, only down side is shipping takes a little longer. However seeing that eevees/ewheels would also have to order the parts from china (they don't have a stock of parts yet), I'd say it's about the same. When I crunched the numbers with import duties, fees, and taxes with straight from AliExpress versus grabbing an EBCP from a local vendor for only a couple hundred more bucks, it made more sense to me for ease of mind in recall/warranty/speaking to someone in native English for customer support to go with a local party. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 57 minutes ago, MrMonoWheel said: However seeing that eevees/ewheels would also have to order the parts from china (they don't have a stock of parts yet), I'd say it's about the same. If you can wrench yourself. It is good to hear about your positive experience though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTTE Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 The Commander Pro looks to have a more comfortable suspension setup than the Sherman S from this clip, EBCP goes down the stairs much more smoothly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punxatawneyjoe Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 33 minutes ago, oktothorpe said: The Commander Pro looks to have a more comfortable suspension setup than the Sherman S from this clip, It looked and sounded to me like the sherman s was bottoming out every step. Can't you adjust that? Think it was out of adjustment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTTE Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, Punxatawneyjoe said: It looked and sounded to me like the sherman s was bottoming out every step. Can't you adjust that? Think it was out of adjustment. It's possible it's just the setup, there's going to be a lot of variation with these two models depending on how people run them 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailless Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 46 minutes ago, Punxatawneyjoe said: It looked and sounded to me like the sherman s was bottoming out every step. Can't you adjust that? Think it was out of adjustment. Easily, you adjust the compression to be stiffer. The main difference is that the sherman s has one shock for compression and the other for rebound. The commander pro, you can adjust compression and rebound on each shock. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) How often are new batches released typically? Every 2-3 months or so? I don't think I want to buy the first batch of this wheel. Is a batch a new shipment to a local distributor? Or is it only a new batch if it's considered a "new version", or both? Edited January 21, 2023 by BKW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I feel that new batch is however they want it to be defined. Just consider Sherman S. Apparently, the first and second batches are only about a couple of weeks apart. I would prefer the batch after the batch that owner have stopped making complaints. In case in point. The S22 Pro is more like the first batch of the S22 that has most of the issues fixed. Realistically, the first good batch can take a while. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 At the bare minimum the next batch better have the correct charging port on it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidenHUN Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Other then the charging port i heard no issue about the Commander Pro, so probably there won't be any batches at all. Since it's already seems solid out of the box 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, RaidenHUN said: Other then the charging port i heard no issue about the Commander Pro, so probably there won't be any batches at all. Since it's already seems solid out of the box I hope you're right, but we are talking about EUCs here, and it's begode, but fingers crossed 🤞. It still needs to be opened up and checked out, and tested by riders, etc Edited January 21, 2023 by BKW 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GHOSTTE Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, trailless said: Watching now! Jumped around the video, this looks way better than the Sherman S as far as build quality Edited January 22, 2023 by oktothorpe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) Who said Extreme Bull (Begode) cannot build a wheel with high build quality. Marty needs to eat his words regarding spaghetti wiring inside the controller module. It looks clean. Mind you, it's no Raptor in a V13. But it's decent. I am not seeing the shoddy quality insinuated by Bradley at EEVEES. Oops. The taillight is cheap; rear fender is as well. Edited January 22, 2023 by techyiam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTTE Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Really glad I pre-ordered. Can. Not. Wait. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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