Paul A Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-society/3435393-finland-ready-to-accept-more-ukrainian-refugees-pm-assures.html Monday, 21 March Finland ready to accept more Ukrainian refugees, PM assures Prime Minister of Finland Sanna Marin says the country is prepared to embrace even more refugees fleeing the Russian invasion of Ukraine. This was reported by the national broadcaster, YLE, according to Ukrinform. The head of government added that a relatively small number of refugees had so far arrived in Finland (according to the migration service, 7,916 Ukrainian citizens had applied for asylum). Most Ukrainians fleeing the war settled in neighboring countries. Marin assured that the Finnish authorities would seek to provide "the most normal conditions" to accommodate those coming from Ukraine. The prime minister also noted that the Finns are aware of what is happening and that they want to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3435296-britain-to-step-up-military-and-economic-support-for-ukraine-johnson.html Monday, 21 March 2022 Britain to step up military and economic support for Ukraine – Johnson Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Boris Johnson had a phone conversation with President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky on Sunday, March 20. The British prime minister wrote about this on Twitter, Ukrinform reports. “I spoke to President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky this afternoon to set out how I will be working to advance Ukraine’s interests at meetings of NATO and the G7 this week,” he wrote. Johnson added that the UK would continue to step up military, economic and diplomatic support “to help bring an end to this terrible conflict.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-economy/3434798-australia-to-provide-ukraine-with-70000-tonnes-of-coal-energy-ministry.html Monday, 21 March 2022 Australia to provide Ukraine with 70,000 tonnes of coal – Energy Ministry Australia will provide Ukraine with at least 70,000 tonnes of thermal coal to strengthen energy security. The Economy Ministry of Ukraine wrote this on Facebook, Ukrinform reports. The Australian government has held talks with the country's coal companies to accumulate certain volumes of coal for further transfer to Ukraine as part of humanitarian aid. It is noted that the Australian company Whitehaven Coal will organize a corresponding dispatch. Coal and its delivery costs will be covered by the Australian government. “Australia is internationally recognized as a leading and reliable supplier of energy resources. We thank our Australian partners for helping Ukraine in this difficult time when our state is resisting an illegal and brutal military invasion by Russia," Ukrainian Energy Minister German Galushchenko said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverine Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 14 hours ago, Paul A said: Footage from a drone shows the Ukrainian city of Mariupol destroyed by Russia. That's exactly what I was afraid of. If Russia fails to conquer Ukraine, they will destroy everything. It is very difficult to start building a country from scratch in this way. Poor Ukrainians. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UniVehje Posted March 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, Wolverine said: That's exactly what I was afraid of. If Russia fails to conquer Ukraine, they will destroy everything. It is very difficult to start building a country from scratch in this way. Poor Ukrainians. This is why it HAS to be extremely expensive for Russia to do this. The world must set up a tax on everything Russia export and direct the money straight to rebuilding Ukraine. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverine Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) The reason why Russian generals are falling: “Ukrainian have very very good snipers, and they are picking them off left and right.” Edited March 21, 2022 by Wolverine Typo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post supercurio Posted March 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) I found very interesting to follow the state of things in Russia from the channel called 1420, who's asking regular Russian citizen their opinion in the street. The % of people asked decline answering any question is increasing as you'd expect but they always find new ways to get a conversation started. Listening to those who speak allows to understand the ongoing trends there, what they think of Putin, effect of sanctions that kind of stuff. You can also see that some in the older generations 100% accept the propaganda as facts. I'm hoping to observe a dramatic shift that would enable a breakthrough change. It's not yet the case. Example video (all of the videos are since the beginning of the conflict are worth watching) Edited March 21, 2022 by supercurio 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3435645-russian-air-strike-on-kyiv-number-of-victims-in-podilskyi-district-grows-to-eight.html Monday, 21 March 2022 Russian air strike on Kyiv: Number of victims in Podilskyi district grows to eight As a result of Russia’s air strike on Kyiv city, the number of killed people in Kyiv's Podilskyi district grew to eight. An investigation has been launched. The Prosecutor General’s Office wrote this on Telegram, Ukrinform reports. "Under the procedural control of the Podilskyi District Prosecutor's Office of Kyiv, an investigation has been launched into violations of the laws and customs of war combined with premeditated murder (Part 2 of Article 438 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine). It is established that in the evening of March 20, 2022, the armed forces of the Russian Federation, using the means of warfare forbidden by the international law, launched a rocket attack on the Podilskyi district of the capital. _______________________________ Results of shelling by Russian occupiers near the Podilsky district of the capital Mar 21, 2022 Ukrinform TV 66.7K subscribers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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supercurio Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Don't be surprised if you talk with Chinese people and they repeat Putin's talking points. By now, it seems that everyone behind the Great Firewall is only presented the Kremlin's views. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul A Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 https://kyivindependent.com/uncategorized/ukraines-military-intelligence-claim-that-russias-elites-scheme-to-overthrow-putin/ March 20, 2022 The Kyiv Independent. Ukraine’s military intelligence claim that Russia’s elites scheme to overthrow Putin Some representatives of Russia’s political and business elite allegedly consider removing dictator Vladimir Putin from power to restore economic ties with Western countries. Aleksandr Bortnikov, head of Russia’s FSB intelligence agency, is being considered as Putin’s successor, Ukraine’s military intelligence claims. __________________________________________________________________________ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/kyiv-independent-bias/ Kyiv Independent Media Bias/Fact Check Overall, we rate the Kyiv Independent Left-Center biased based on editorial positions that moderately favor a liberal perspective. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and being a resource for fact-checkers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 https://torontosun.com/news/world/are-russias-military-financial-elite-plotting-overthrow-of-the-vlad-hatter Toronto Sun Mar 21, 2022 Are Russia's military, financial elite plotting overthrow of the Vlad Hatter? The elites are determined to "restore economic ties" with the West, according to Ukrainian intelligence sources. The Ukrainian secret service claims top Russian military and financial figures are plotting to overthrow despotic President Vladimir Putin. Putin is being blamed for obliterating the Russian economy and wiping out billions controlled by the oligarchic elite due to his invasion of Ukraine. What had been anticipated as a quick victory by Putin has turned into a bloody quagmire that has cost thousands of Russians their lives. The elites are determined to “restore economic ties” with the West, according to Ukrainian intelligence sources. “Poisoning, sudden illness, accident — Russia’s elite is considering removing Putin,” declared a Sunday Facebook post from the Chief Directorate of Intelligence for the Ministry of Defence of Ukraine. According to the post, “influential people” in Russia are anxious to “remove Putin from power as soon as possible and restore economic ties with the West which were destroyed by the war in Ukraine.” The Daily Mirror reports that the fifth column emerging around Putin wants Alexander Bortnikov, the director of the Federal Security Service and a member of Putin’s inner circle, as Mad Vlad’s successor. Ukrainian intelligence sources told the Mirror that Bortnikov and Putin had a falling out after the tiny terror blamed him for “fatal miscalculations” in the military debacle. “Bortnikov and his department were responsible for analyzing the mood of the population of Ukraine and the capacity of the Ukrainian army,” the directorate said. Citing Russian friendlies as the source of the explosive intel, the Ukrainians say that their enemy’s elites are “considering various options for removing Putin from power.” And that includes killing him. Following the Russian invasion, the West imposed a slew of sanctions that are now economically throttling the invader’s economy — and ramping up pressure on Putin. Among those sanctions stinging most are the blindingly wealthy oligarchs whose assets have been seized. ______________________________________________- https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/toronto-sun/ Toronto Sun Media bias/Fact check Detailed Report Bias Rating: RIGHT Factual Reporting: MOSTLY FACTUAL Country: Canada (14/180 Press Freedom) Media Type: Newspaper Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY History The Toronto Sun is a daily newspaper based in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 The Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation is the principal security agency of Russia and the main successor agency to the Soviet Union's KGB. Wikipedia The Daily Mirror reports that the fifth column emerging around Putin wants Alexander Bortnikov, the director of the Federal Security Service and a member of Putin’s inner circle, as Mad Vlad’s successor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Russian elite 'to overthrow Putin' with ex-ally 1,277,385 views Mar 22, 2022 news.com.au 373K subscribers A Ukrainian government body has revealed Vladimir Putin’s potential successor, hinting that the Russian elite have hatched a plan to remove the President. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsnapper Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, Paul A said: Russian elite 'to overthrow Putin' with ex-ally 1,277,385 views Mar 22, 2022 news.com.au 373K subscribers A Ukrainian government body has revealed Vladimir Putin’s potential successor, hinting that the Russian elite have hatched a plan to remove the President. Would that it were so but very doubtful - Putin started his career by stealing billions while doing muni politics in St Petes then jailing or killing his opponents including elites (Khodorkovsky, Lebedev,etc) and has continued doing so. If you want a good chronicle of his bloodstained rise see below. regime change in Russia requires high level coord with military & GRU/FSB chiefs (Putin - ex KGB - no doubt has rats all over the place who can sniff out any such talk and those folks end up in the gulag (or worse))... He has no conscience or care for the Russian people ( see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings ) and will do anything to hold onto power. Unless NATO steps in with direct military intervention (who knows where that goes) Ukraine will likely be a war zone for a long time :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I’m really pleased to hear already any rumors of Putin being thrown out! No idea when anything will really happen about it, but I feel it’s a huge move in the right direction. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsnapper Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, mrelwood said: I’m really pleased to hear already any rumors of Putin being thrown out! No idea when anything will really happen about it, but I feel it’s a huge move in the right direction. What is happening in Ukraine is terrible and Putin should pay for his many atrocities but it seems that the slow encroachment of NATO towards Russian borders (and especially the notion that Ukraine could become a NATO member) plays a role in this tragedy. This is a different perspective on how things got to where they are... Ignore the title which is sensational - a better title would be - how does nato policy contribute to russian aggression - but the content is thoughtful... Not saying this is the gospel but worth thinking about. Edited March 22, 2022 by redsnapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/6/2022 at 9:10 AM, Richardo said: Anyway it led me to this video which answered my question. Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer Video had been previously posted by member Richardo. Very good video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meepmeepmayer Posted March 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, Paul A said: Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? It's not. Didn't watch the video, but this both-sideing is ridiculous (and plain false). Don't confuse decades-long Russian propaganda with reality. If you don't want a country to join an alliance specifically against your country, maybe think about why they do it, instead of blaming them. The only threat that NATO poses is are unassailable free and prosperous countries that make the Russian cleptostate look as horrible as it is, that's why all the NATO-whining happens. The only threat NATO (and "the West") poses is to the mafia in charge. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, redsnapper said: Ignore the title which is sensational - a better title would be - how does nato policy contribute to russian aggression - but the content is thoughtful... Not saying this is the gospel but worth thinking about. Meepmeep, perhaps disregard the title and watch the video. The video was uploaded six years ago. Not prompted by current invasion. Edited March 22, 2022 by Paul A Additional info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsnapper Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 28 minutes ago, Paul A said: Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer Video had been previously posted by member Richardo. Very good video. my bad - had missed that. imagine the east doing anything close (putting forces in areas of western strategic significance that border usa) to how the west has handled nato/eu expansion ? Would not hv been allowed in the least! Putin is a rotten SOB but this scenario was sorely misplayed by western leaders who failed to see how strategically important the Ukraine is to Russia. And now Ukraine (like Georgia) is paying the ultimate price... - u hardly hear any western media talking about this... Of course Ukraine ( and all sovereign nations) should have the right to self determination. But the idea of joining eu/nato seems to be the match in the tinder box that western leaders should not have helped light :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Either countries are souvereign or they are not. You cannot go "but not this time..." then, and then blame anybody but the aggressor. Pretending Russia isn't Russia and every country is the same also doesn't work. Russia has no legitimate "security interests" or whatever that NATO could or does threaten. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Yes Redsnapper. Think currently, Zelensky is proposing relinquishing of joining NATO in return for security guarantee from Russia, withdrawal of all soldiers, Ukraine retaining military, Ukraine neutrality. Will post if can find the proposal again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardo Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 I knew it! That video had too incendiary of a title. (When interpreted to apply to the current situation instead of the maidan revolution.) One's instinctive reaction is to get so angry you can't even watch it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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