novazeus Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 nice little motorcycle tire guide, since we are running motorcycle tires. mine has a tube and a quart of slime inside it. https://www.mic.org/Downloads/Tire_Guide.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 10/26/2023 at 9:53 PM, Punxatawneyjoe said: yeah sorry, i was just trying to be helpful since it was just us 2 talking on this thread the page or so. I will know better next time. yeah ur right, the fan doesn't automatically come on, it must have a thermal switch on the board. i used my old charger today and the fan didn't kick on until about ten minutes. u know, i don't post this stuff here just to complain. sending out chargers with defective fans that overheat, esp now with the charging/battery fires. i post here to warn others. if that fan doesn't come on, the charger will get too hot to touch and stop charging, ie giving u a green light, but u won't be charged. very dangerous in the wrong situation. it caused a battery fault on the wheel. and there's no start up check like with computers where the fans kick on momentarily. idk why that little fan isn't on constantly anyway. and after it did that, the first try, i don't want to screw up my wheel trying to use it again. oh yeah, i can change the speed back to 56 mph on the wheel, but if i touch the slider in the app, it goes to 55mph. whew! i was missing that extra mph. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 woop woop, new charger will be shipped out soon. kudos to inmotion for responding so quick. just came in from riding both wheels again today ten miles each. i enjoy analyzing each wheel and tire side by side. so after reading that motorcycle tire guide, i decided to check my tires cold, overnight cold, and as i had calculated, 2psi over max at 88 degrees would probably translate to perfect cold, and it did, knobby at 40psi cold, and michelin at 45psi cold. just to interject here, the v13 with the michelin street tire on it, was the most difficult wheel i've ever encountered. lots of losing balance when slowing to a stop. thought i might bleed to death before learning to balance on this street tire, and when i got it, it was at 40psi, and i left it there. i woulda died right out of the box at 45psi. i never leave the ranch or my road basically, but as i ride i contemplate someday having the need to run an errand off ranch, and trying to decide which wheel i'd take. i love the street tire for my road, but i think between the 2 v13's i'd take the new one with the knobby. both wheels are running great, but that glassy, freewheeling feel of the michelin might get me in trouble in the wild. i catch myself speeding faster on the michelin all the time. and it might be the tube filled with 16oz of slime, but the knobby actually corners better. the michelin fights leaning somewhat, or more leg pressure to bend it. the knobby gives more feedback and makes u more aware of ur speed. easier to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 10/27/2023 at 4:36 AM, novazeus said: it's great ur so in love with inmotion, but trust me, they screw up like every company on the planet. Except: On 10/27/2023 at 4:36 AM, novazeus said: manufacturers recommended tire pressure Because no matter how much they screw up, they got the tire pressure recommendations dead correct! Just like their battery health guidelines all these years! No, wait… On 10/28/2023 at 6:34 AM, Punxatawneyjoe said: I also tried today no power assist and full pedal hardness and it just makes the wheel feel more springy when you lay into it That’s interesting. The pedal hardness should work the other way around. Either way, people have said that assists on but sliders at zero is a harder ride mode than simply assists off. Maybe worth trying out. On 10/28/2023 at 3:26 PM, novazeus said: manufacturers recommended tire pressure, then u are less likely to overtax ur motor and batteries resulting in a faceplant. Same goes for clothes. They add a lot of air drag. I recommend riding naked. Much safer, no overleans! On 10/28/2023 at 3:26 PM, novazeus said: same thing happens with cars, trucks etc when the tires aren’t properly inflated they waste fuel. Overinflated car tires use less fuel than correctly inflated ones. Staring at a single aspect for too long can make one lose perspective, and forget other pros and cons. Yes, an overinflated tire requires a tiny amount less energy. Yes, a slick tire uses less energy than a knobby. Yet an overinflated slick tire is not safer as a whole. Maybe look into the most common reasons of overleans to understand what would really be the best step to avoid them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punxatawneyjoe Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, mrelwood said: Either way, people have said that assists on but sliders at zero is a harder ride mode than simply assists off. Maybe worth trying out. I will have to try it, it's difficult to describe the power assist off and pedal softness to 0%. It is definitely not mushy, like when it's on 100% it's much firmer however when you lean right into it, it has some give before the wheel catches up so the only way i can describe it is like a stiff spring. Definitely different than the power assist which tilt's the wheel and softens the springy feel. It will be interesting to see how the 14 feels as compared to the 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 yup, be interesting to see another v13's screenshot showing ten miles and how much battery used with what tire and psi. i'm about 200 pounds riding weight. one mile per one percent is good i think. i know when my tire had lost air and i didn't know it, my mileage went way down. handling too. all around best tire of the two, the knobby. today's ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyss Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 2:49 PM, UPONIT said: Wish there was a kit to lower the pedals to their non-suspension height when the suspension is in. Has anyone done this? Or have any thoughts about the design of an alternate pedal hanger plate or something? I think I'm going to sketch something out to see where the flaws in that idea lie... https://m.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/6759701324127773/?ref=share&mibextid=hhAtFB hou ningning did a set that lowers the pedals bg 50mm. Would be interesting to see how it goes. Still having issues with the v13 above 50. I'm running 37psi in tire 150psi in shock 0% assistance and I'm liking it so far but it still gets stuck on angles. I'm 72kg without gear. My T4 is a lot more stable at 40-50kph than the V13. I would replace the tire on the v13 but I've already ordered a EX30 to replace it. It'll be interesting to see how i find it after 3000km on the V13. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/29/2023 at 6:01 PM, mrelwood said: Because no matter how much they screw up, they got the tire pressure recommendations dead correct! Just like their battery health guidelines all these years! No, wait… from jason's site: The Specs have a maximum weight limit of 140kg/309lb, what are the areas that are susceptible to fatigue with increased load? Historically, manufacturers use the ‘stamped’ tire load as the limiting factor. In practice, he's talking about the v14, but historically, that is a false statement by jason. here are sidewalls from a ks 16s and a ks 18s do the math. it wasn't until i called usa segway in 2017, and asked how they could sell a wheel in the usa without a tire stamp. they shut down about a month later and the only euc sold by segway was the z10 the first euc ever to have a tire rated to carry the weight of the rider and the wheel. and of course everybody complained about the difficulty in riding the z10. i think chooch had the tire at 14psi. so, historically, until i came along, euc builders put underrated tires on all euc's and nobody complained because it's easier to learn on a flat tire. like, what is the sidewall rating on a v8? anybody know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yetti Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 1:37 AM, Eyss said: https://m.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/6759701324127773/?ref=share&mibextid=hhAtFB hou ningning did a set that lowers the pedals bg 50mm. Would be interesting to see how it goes. I ordered a pair of the lower pedal hangers. I'll let you know how the wheel feels after I get and test them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPONIT Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/27/2023 at 8:34 PM, Punxatawneyjoe said: My input is that 45 psi makes you feel every bump in the road, it's not "harder" it's not "safer" it's definitely not "better" than 35. My tire was low today so for the hell of it i tried the 45 psi. I tried it and it's foolish. I also tried today no power assist and full pedal hardness and it just makes the wheel feel more springy when you lay into it, I'm not exactly sure if i like it or not yet but definitely feels like you could overpower it easier. If you lay into it it feels like a spring, it tilts forward and springs back as it accelerates. Feels weird but not exactly sure if i like it or not, i will definitely do more testing. All of this was in "fancy" mode just to sure i wasn't missing anything. it's a process... 4 hours ago, yetti said: I ordered a pair of the lower pedal hangers. I'll let you know how the wheel feels after I get and test them. please do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) On 10/30/2023 at 1:37 AM, Eyss said: My T4 is a lot more stable at 40-50kph than the V13. i rode both v13's again today ten miles each. both rock solid. knobby on one, street on the other. u might want to check and make sure ur tire is centered properly by deflaing all the way, by removing the valve core, and some dish soap and water mixture, and reseating the bead. ur wheel at 37psi at ur weight, sb about right. the tire gets rounder with more air. Edited November 1, 2023 by novazeus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 fyi. i'll stick with the michelin, although the stock knobby is great too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabChampion Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 54 minutes ago, novazeus said: fyi. i'll stick with the michelin, although the stock knobby is great too. Nothing would've saved his rim from that kind of damage. Even if he thinks the stock tire wouldnt have damaged his rim. The proper tubeless michelin tires have much stiffer sidewalls. The v13 rides very nice with a michelin tire for sure. Makes it a little more nimble for its size 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 just came in after 32 miles on the v13's. don't know about the other brands, but i can't imagine a better wheel for what it is. and a big thank u, dealing direct with inmotion who i bought it from, and all the way from china my replacement charger came today. now i'll go see if it works. i'm a hundred miles short of fancy mode at 1800 miles, but i want, like everybody else, wants torque mode. anything they can do would be fine with me. i don't go over 40mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 voila! manifique! really is easy and i’m so so stoned, it’s vicious tape, not grizzla. and vicious it is, on grip and if ur not wearing shin protection, ur legs on a bad step off. just made a template and with these new rounded head spikes, just push down and they pop thru good enough and the grip is almost too much for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punxatawneyjoe Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, novazeus said: grip is almost too much for me. Haha, looks like 36 grit sand paper. I would be concerned with my feet sticking to the pedals upon an unexpected departure and maybe twisting or even worse breaking my ankle. Just my opinion though, some people like super grippy pedals. I personally have found the v13 spikes to be just grippy enough for my needs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Punxatawneyjoe said: Haha, looks like 36 grit sand paper. I would be concerned with my feet sticking to the pedals upon an unexpected departure and maybe twisting or even worse breaking my ankle. Just my opinion though, some people like super grippy pedals. I personally have found the v13 spikes to be just grippy enough for my needs. yeah that's always a concern of, the reason why i removed the screws on my 12-12-22 one and put vicious tape on the pedals from day one. this one mase on 5-11-23, has just little titties. so, not that big of a difference. still no pads. when my van's are really adhered to the pedals, i loosen them on my feet. i move my feet inside my clodhoppers. i don't wear socks so they are loose anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPONIT Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/6/2023 at 2:31 PM, novazeus said: voila! manifique! really is easy and i’m so so stoned, it’s vicious tape, not grizzla. and vicious it is, on grip and if ur not wearing shin protection, ur legs on a bad step off. just made a template and with these new rounded head spikes, just push down and they pop thru good enough and the grip is almost too much for me. Did you try using the shims that come with the wheel to increase the dihedral angle of the pedals? That keeps your feet on the wheel more strongly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 hour ago, UPONIT said: Did you try using the shims that come with the wheel to increase the dihedral angle of the pedals? That keeps your feet on the wheel more strongly... no, rhe pedal dihedral is fine. they just need to be moved forward about an inch. i have aluminum plate that i'm gonna fix them for me so i don't have three inches of sneaker hanging off the front. if u ride squatted, on the roads wheee u need to brake often, then yes, ventering pedals makes sense. just for my pasture wheel. btw, if i do get another v13, if these vendors will answer me, i might do the suspension delete kit on the street one. i want to examine them anyway. plus, i'll never take it off pave esp having two pasture wheels. so i'll let u know. i don't ride like wrongway, but i find his opinions mirror mine. except on nail polish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 pedal project. and since i'll be repping for inmotion, i decided to take the condom off. still hate pads but trying them out because i want protection in case i drop it. anybody know what size those cap head screws inmotion used for spikes? i'm gonna get longer ones to go thru this 1/4" aluminum plate to bolt it to the existing pedal. don't try this at home, i am a trained professional, seriously, i know stuff that makes shit work. i'll share later but ur on ur own. i can't supervise ur work. oh yeah, anybody remove their pedals yet? looks easy. i want to move these 1st generation pedals with my laminated aluminum extension, on my pasture wheel, that's where i need to be like a ballerina and stand on my toes. and why didn't any of u buy a cnc milling machine instead of all the 3d printers. make a fortune making forward bias pedals so our feet aren't hanging over three inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punxatawneyjoe Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, novazeus said: our feet aren't hanging over three inches. I like hanging my toes over, i can curl them around the end and get a better grip when i'm doing 60mph @Rawnei 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Punxatawneyjoe said: I like hanging my toes over, i can curl them around the end and get a better grip when i'm doing 60mph @Rawnei well, after almost losing a toe because of the shit tire on a 9bs2, i started wearing shoes when i ride, so no toe curling, but i know what u mean. i think my plate will make pasture riding better. the way i’m gonna adhere them, those screws and rough up all surfaces, clean thoroughly, and besides the mechanical bond, i’ll use golf club epoxy to marry the plate to the pedal. it won’t ever come off, unless u use a propane torch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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novazeus Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) best wheel ever made, imho obviously or i would not have bought three of the most expensive wheels made. ben franklin said, “the bitterness of low quality remains long after the sweetness of low price fades away” or something like that. and in this world of wheels, likd in real estate, there are only three rules 1. location 2.location 3.location, with wheels unless u have socialist healthcare, and even then, ur just patched up, never healed, Jesus left a long time ago, can’t blame Him, or got mugged in nyc. so here’s the rules with euc’s 1. safety 2.safety 3.safety that’s why the only wheels i’ll pimp for now, is the v13. here’s a demostration of how well the suspension works on my first street one with the michelin at 47psi which actually i think cuts thru the grass better for a better ride. humans don’t need knobbys unless ur on gravel all the time. pavement and hard pack grass not necessary. take it from me, born right here 69 years ago, i know all about tires, except i never changed one. so a new adventure awaits me. actually excited about opening up my wheels now that i have my real estate bullshit underway. back to fun. oh yeah, duh, no wonder the old v13 strains less going up my hill, smalller diameter tire and harder and slicker, no rolling resistance. the new one grunts harder with the knobby. haha, can’t wait to do more testing. falling from a wheel in the pasture is a helluva lot more fun than falling from a horse. killed superman. Edited November 12, 2023 by novazeus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woke rider Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 You are funny @novazeus, out there riding around on your ranch on your electric unicycle. Ninebot Z10 is still better than Inmotion V13 though for where I ride, mostly on cement and asphalt and sidewalks. It's so much fun. I don't see how a V13 would be any better. Don't crash too much out there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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