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[Paul A]

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/treatments-for-covid-19

Treatments for COVID-19

January 18, 2022

 

The FDA has granted emergency use authorization (EUA) to three monoclonal antibody treatments that may be used to treat non-hospitalized adults and children over age 12 with mild to moderate symptoms who have recently tested positive for COVID-19, and who are at risk for developing severe COVID-19 or being hospitalized for it. These therapies must be given intravenously (by IV) soon after developing symptoms.

 

The monoclonal antibody treatments that have EUA approval are: a combination of casirivimab and imdevimab, called REGN-COV, made by Regeneron; a combination of bamlanivimab and etesevimab, made by Eli Lilly; and sotrovimab, made by GlaxoSmithKline.

 

Laboratory studies have found that only one of the FDA-authorized monoclonal antibody treatments — sotrovimab — is effective against the Omicron variant.

 

 

Is there an antiviral pill that can reduce my risk of being hospitalized if I get COVID-19?

The FDA has authorized two antiviral pills for the treatment of COVID-19.

Paxlovid

Molnupiravir

 

 

[Chriull]

On 1/28/2022 at 6:05 PM, Chriull said:

Just had my matjes and rollmop (pickled herring rolled with sauerkraut) dosis!

Just for clarification - i like herrings since ever and i like that they support greatly my vitamin d needs. But i do not in any way trust that this could help substantially against covid.

A inforced immun system is great but still quite helpless against unknown threats.

[Paul A]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/17/counties-voted-trump-higher-covid-death-rate

Sat 18 Dec 2021

Over 91% Democrats vaccinated, while only 60% Republicans have taken one shot, data reveals

Of every 100,000 residents, 25 died of Covid in Trump counties in October, compared to the 7.8 in Biden-voting counties.

 

New data analysis has revealed that if US Democratic voters were to make up their own country, it would have one of the world’s most vaccinated populations, with more than 91% of adults having received at least one shot.

Meanwhile, approximately 60% of Republican adults have received their first shot, according to data research by the New York Times.

Charles Gaba, an independent health care analyst, said that in October, the “reddest” tenth of the US saw death rates from coronavirus six times higher than the “bluest” tenth.

 

The US accounts for approximately 4% of the world’s population but about 15% of the 5.3m known deaths from the coronavirus since the outbreak began in China two years ago.

[Planemo]

1 hour ago, Paul A said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/17/counties-voted-trump-higher-covid-death-rate

Sat 18 Dec 2021

Over 91% Democrats vaccinated, while only 60% Republicans have taken one shot, data reveals

Of every 100,000 residents, 25 died of Covid in Trump counties in October, compared to the 7.8 in Biden-voting counties.

 

New data analysis has revealed that if US Democratic voters were to make up their own country, it would have one of the world’s most vaccinated populations, with more than 91% of adults having received at least one shot.

Meanwhile, approximately 60% of Republican adults have received their first shot, according to data research by the New York Times.

Charles Gaba, an independent health care analyst, said that in October, the “reddest” tenth of the US saw death rates from coronavirus six times higher than the “bluest” tenth.

 

The US accounts for approximately 4% of the world’s population but about 15% of the 5.3m known deaths from the coronavirus since the outbreak began in China two years ago.

Despite your multitude of copy/paste posts in this thread, I still have no idea whether you are pro vaccine or totally against it 

[Paul A]

Covid vaccines saves lives.

 

Just as vaccines for diseases people have forgotten about, because they have nearly been eliminated:

Polio

Smallpox

Tetanus

Hepatitis B

Hepatitis A

Rubella (German Measles)

Measles

Pertussis (Whooping Cough)

Pneumococcal 

Rotavirus

Chicken Pox

Diphtheria

Mumps

 

Human health has improved dramatically since the introduction of vaccines. Before widespread vaccination, diseases like polio, smallpox, rubella, and measles crippled and killed millions of people each year.

Now that vaccines for children are common, some of these diseases are virtually non-existent.

The World Health Assembly declared smallpox eradicated—eliminated worldwide—in 1980, and the Global Polio Eradication Initiative has managed to drastically decrease polio cases.

https://www.healthgrades.com/right-care/vaccines/14-diseases-nearly-eliminated-by-vaccines

[Paul A]

Pfizer taking prominent critics to court.

 

The sheer volume of misinformation spreading on the internet.

An exercise in futility, whereby it becomes akin to the game of 'whack a moll'.

Before a plaintiff serves a Claim or Statement of Claim on a Defendant, the plaintiff usually sends a Pre-Action notice, a written warning of impending legal action, giving the defendant an opportunity to comply with demands.

The misinformation spreaders on the internet, served with a warning of impending legal action, could just cease without penalty.

The other multitudes of misinformation spreaders on the internet can continue until they receive a warning.

 

Is it rational for Pfizer to expend resources in an attempt to seek accountability from misinformation spreaders?

Across many countries, many legal jurisdictions?

What is the cost, what are the benefits?

 

Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies are focused on producing and selling vaccines to the millions demanding them.

People choosing not to be vaccinated and then dying, is of no concern to Pfizer.

[Paul A]

Canadian Truckers freedom convoy protest.

 

Living in an advanced, first world, Western, peaceful, rule of law, democratic society such as Canada, affords many benefits that greatly exceed the contributions in the form of taxes paid by the truckers.

 

Protesting with the claim that their freedoms are being infringed upon........ that the selfish interests of the individual takes precedence over the interests of society as a whole...... in an extremely lethal, real life, pandemic........ that they have rights but no obligations........is disturbing.

 

Canadian society enjoys, amongst others, the benefits of:

A universal healthcare system that has no upper limit on costs to an individual, should they fall gravely ill, injured etc

A social welfare system with unemployment benefits should a citizen need support when unemployed

A social welfare system with pension for citizens when they retire, that gives them financial security when they are elderly

A free education system for their children

Peace and stability with laws and law enforcement agencies

Peace and stability with a military to protect from external threats that might wish to exploit or harm Canada

Apolitical Institutions charged with work in the public interest

 

An organized society confers many advantages, each individual benefits far more than their contribution.

When a person is hospitalized, there is an investment of millions of dollars of equipment that is drawn upon.... highly skilled medical professionals with years of intense studying/training/experience....a worldwide collaboration of medical/scientific/academic research that has built up a vast knowledge base across many areas of medicine, over many years....

 

Many criticisms could be leveled at the truckers.

Criticisms such as of selfishness....ungrateful demands of rights/benefits but no reciprocation of responsibilities/obligations.......ignorance, arrogance, seeking special treatment etc..

However, perhaps it is people that gain financially in propagating vaccine misinformation that are believed by those in society such as truckers, are the root cause.

[Paul A]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/31/canada-anti-vaccine-protests-criminal-charges

Tue 1 Feb 2022

Trudeau: Canadians disgusted by anti-vaxxers who desecrated monuments

Thousands gathered in Ottawa to protest against Covid mandates and some urinated on the National War Memorial.

Police said they were investigating possible criminal charges after protesters urinated on the National War Memorial, danced on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, and used the statue of Canadian hero Terry Fox to display an anti-vaccine statement.

Some also harassed volunteers at a soup kitchen and flew Nazi flags.

 

Canada has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world.

The prime minister has said Canadians are not represented by this “very troubling, small but very vocal minority of Canadians who are lashing out at science, at government, at society, at mandates and public health advice”.

 

Deirdre Freiheit, president of the Shepherds of Good Hope, which run a soup kitchen for the homeless in Ottawa, said several protesters showed up at the soup kitchen on Saturday and verbally abused staff and volunteers while demanding they be served.

She said some protesters were given food to defuse the situation, but going forward meals will be given only to those who need them.

 

A new rule took effect 15 January requiring truckers entering Canada be fully immunized against the coronavirus.

The United States has imposed the same requirement on truckers entering that country.

 

The Canadian Trucking Alliance said a great number of the protesters had no connection to the trucking industry, adding they have a separate agenda to push.

The alliance notes the vast majority of drivers are vaccinated.

 

Canada has recorded 2.93m Covid cases and 32,600 deaths from the virus.

[Hellkitten]

@Paul A with all due respect you’re not here, you’re not seeing what’s actually going on and are now passing along horrible propaganda. Please stop. 🇨🇦

Edited February 1, 2022 by Hellkitten

[Funky]

16 minutes ago, Hellkitten said:

@Paul A with all due respect you’re not here, you’re not seeing what’s actually going on and are now passing along horrible propaganda. Please stop. 🇨🇦

xD i rarely read what he says, is more about numbers and such shit.. Just say that covid is clown business, and world if going bananas over nothing. More fun that way.

(That's my viewpoint on covid) Sure i get people are dying.. But what's new.. Covid will be here for ever. It will not disappear. At least overpopulation will be cured. <3

[OldFartRides]

One man’s propaganda is another man’s “truth”. Sometimes hard to tell the difference.

People can’t agree on objective facts. 
 

But I guess that’s the way it’s always been.

”Ever thus to losers Labowski”

Best,

The Dude

[Paul A]

@Hellkitten what is going on in Canada?  What is not being reported in the newspapers?

 

Worldometer is stating for Canada:

79.3% of the population is fully vaccinated.

 

Population of Canada is 38 million (2020)

Doses given 78 million.

Fully vaccinated 30.2 million.

[Freeforester]

On the matter in hand, data sources as per usual:

https://youtu.be/f9utczapsmI

 

On being ‘fact’ checked:

https://youtu.be/bza1gAc8sOA

Gotta wonder which is promoting the quackery/disinformation, and whose - the ONS, the Government, or, er, the media? 🤔

[Freeforester]

And, in Denmark, despite Omicron’s high infectivity, the endgame (or why we need better modellers with better models):

[goatman]

i think of Paul A as  Google or Snopes, at first i thought he was  getting paid by the post but then i just realized it was more of a kool-aid addiction. nothing wrong with that,

im not going to want him to be banned or locked up for it or denied an organ transplant that would cost him life.

if he wants booster jab himself 4 times a year and walk around wearing a mask, go for it

just leave me and my family alone

heres The Real Pat King facebook video update page. if you want to learn what the truckers are about, the MSM coverage of this is disgusting as usual, the truckers werent pissing on the war memorial or flying nazi flags or confederate flags or stealing food from the homeless

https://www.facebook.com/therealpatking/videos/listen-to-this-trucker-tear-up-as-he-reads-a-heartfelt-note-from-a-little-girl-w/238639241672682/

try using the "really" filter

you really think truckers drove across the country to piss on a war memorial, really?

you really think truckers would be flying nazi flags for the msm to broadcast around the world when they are relying on Canadian citizens and others from around the world to support them , do you really believe that Paul? really

do you really think this trucker is stealing food from the homeless

https://www.facebook.com/therealpatking/videos/listen-to-this-trucker-tear-up-as-he-reads-a-heartfelt-note-from-a-little-girl-w/238639241672682

 

 

cmon Paul, really?? 

 

Edited February 2, 2022 by goatman

[Tawpie]

It's all very interesting isn't it... 

Early on in the days before we actually elected our previous president, I got concerned that I was living in an echo chamber. After all, I knew people and have relatives that are glad they live in the not-coastal-ivory-tower regions and while they aren't "us" by any stretch, I still like them. I try to think that they have interesting ideas and maybe aren't as idiotic as my news sources were making them out to be. They have their reasons. Vegans have their reasons too.

So I deliberately tried to expand my echo chamber, and really tried to force myself to give a bit of attention to the media feed "they" were getting. I found much of it to be laughable and figured some of it was outright dangerous, but then I looked at my media feed from their point of view and what do you know... I have trusted sources that are, well, echoing my current belief system and are laughable and perhaps outright dangerous. Ask a vegan about my "science says it's ok to eat a burger every now and then" viewpoint.

Personally, I think having someone like @Paul A that is willing to post "information" from another view has their place. I prefer not to spend time on "information" that points out why I am good/better and you/they are worse/bad, and even though some of the stuff is truly problematic to me, I remind myself that there are people that actually do think this way. I need to allow that into my echo chamber. Oftentimes it gets me riled up, and that's ok too! At least I'm thinking.

I am under no illusions that I can convince my relatives of anything... and I can guarantee you that no matter how persuasive a vegan's science and logic are, I'm still having the occasional surf and turf for dinner, paid for with a piece of oil based future ocean plastic I took from a leather wallet. Neener neener. Vive la différence.

(no oysters though, I've never been nor do I ever plan to be that hungry)

[Paul A]

Corroboration of Canadian Truckers behaviour from other reputable news sources.

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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/police-in-canada-investigate-monument-desecration-in-wake-of-trucker-protest-against-covid-rules-01643635762

Published: Jan. 31, 2022 at 8:29 a.m. ET

Associated Press

Police in Canada investigate monument desecration in wake of trucker protest against COVID rules

OTTAWA, Ontario (AP) — Police in Canada’s capital said Sunday they are investigating possible criminal charges after anti-vaccine protesters urinated on the National War Memorial, danced on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and used the statue of Canadian hero Terry Fox to display an anti-vaccine statement.

 

Some demonstrators parked on the grounds of the National War Memorial and others carried signs and flags with swastikas, sparking widespread condemnation. Participants unable to dine in restaurants reportedly flocked to a soup kitchen, where volunteers reported being harassed.

 

*Associated Press

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Founded in 1846, it operates as a cooperative, unincorporated association. Its members are U.S. newspapers and broadcasters.

Headquarters: New York, New York, United States

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Number of employees: 3,300

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/truck-convoy-protest-some-key-players-1.6332312

John Paul Tasker · CBC News · Posted: Jan 29, 2022 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: January 30

 

Thousands opposed to COVID-19 rules converge on Parliament Hill

 

Later, protesters were seen dancing on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, prompting condemnation from Veterans Affairs Minister Lawrence MacAulay and Canada's top soldier Gen. Wayne Eyre.

 

 

Twitter from General Wayne Eyre:

 

General / Général Wayne Eyre

 

@CDS_Canada_CEMD

 

I am sickened to see protesters dance on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and desecrate the National War Memorial. Generations of Canadians have fought and died for our rights, including free speech, but not this. Those involved should hang their heads in shame.

 

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Headquarters: Canadian Broadcasting Centre; Toronto, Ontario, Canada

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Website of the Ottawa Police Department.

News and media release.

 

https://www.ottawapolice.ca/Modules/News/index.aspx?newsId=bbbbb85e-4056-4321-954c-5cf034dc3f07

 

Posted On Tuesday February 01, 2022

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Tuesday, February 1, 2022  8:45pm

(Ottawa) – Today, the Ottawa Police Service arrested and charged Matthew DORKEN, 29 year old, of Ottawa, with Mischief under $5000. On January 29^th, a man caused mischief to property. He was not arrested at the time in order to avoid a larger confrontation.

On January 30^th, Andre J LACASSE, 37 year old, of Ottawa, was charged with Carry a Weapon to a Public Meeting under the Criminal Code of Canada.

With respect to the demonstration, the Ottawa Police is reporting:

• 13 active investigations;
• Eight complaints to our hotline, three of which will be investigated by our Hate and Bias Crime Unit;
• Two men charged with criminal offences;
• Some progression in the investigation into the desecration of the War Monument

We want to be very clear, both for the current demonstrations and any planned demonstrations: Illegal activity will not be tolerated.

There will be consequences for anyone contravening City By-laws, Highway Traffic Act and Criminal Code legislation. 

[Paul A]

From the twitter account of Deirdre Freiheit, President and CEO, Shepherds of Good Hope.

Shepherds of Good Hope, charity in Ottawa running the soup kitchen for homeless and needy.

 

 

 

 

[Paul A]

 

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination

 

Data on COVID-19 mortality by vaccination status

To understand how the pandemic is evolving, it’s crucial to know how death rates from COVID-19 are affected by vaccination status.

The death rate is a key metric that can accurately show us how effective vaccines are against severe forms of the disease.

This may change over time when there are changes in the prevalence of COVID-19, and because of factors such as waning immunity, new strains of the virus, and the use of boosters.

On this page, we explain why it is essential to look at death rates by vaccination status rather than the absolute number of deaths among vaccinated and unvaccinated people. 

We also visualize this mortality data for the United States, England, Switzerland, and Chile. 

Here we bring together the official mortality data by vaccination status published by the United States, England, Switzerland, and Chile.

These charts are updated weekly, if new data has been published by the official source.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Freeforester]

Speaking of death rates, here’s a little information on the demographic of all those unvaccinated sadly dying: seems like the older you get, the greater the risk of death…🤔

 

Edited February 2, 2022 by Freeforester

[Freeforester]

A more general aspect that one may wish to be considered:

 

[Freeforester]

He ain’t a Native New Yorker, he’s far more dangerous -quack quack!

 

[Freeforester]

And, quack back on topic:

 

https://youtu.be/ANmkIIxCQCw

 

part 2: https://youtu.be/fflt95jPUYM

 

…and of course, our resident British ‘quack’ on the subject of ivermectin, RCT provided courtesy of the alma mater of the Nobel Prize-winning discoverer of the original parent Avermectin compound in Japan (you know, the one which Merck, his former employer, refused to cooperate with in the study):

 

Gotta wonder, indeed…

Edited February 10, 2022 by Freeforester

[Hellkitten]

Regular streaming from Ottawa. 

Edited February 11, 2022 by Hellkitten

[Paul A]

Prince Charles has had three doses of the vaccine.

The heir to the British throne trusts the vaccine.

Just diagnosed with Covid infection for the second time, he has not suffered severe illness or died.

He is 73.