Popular Post travsformation Posted January 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Gasmantle said: The video thread now is out of hand, effectively all the forum videos (and probably 25% of the entire forum posts) are grouped in one thread. On 1/13/2020 at 6:42 PM, ZenRyder said: Should there be a forum dedicated to Videos since there are almost 600 posts on this thread? Why not just start another? Oh, because there are over 300 following this thread and new posts don't get the views, right? Personally, although I admit it's a fairly chaotic affair, I enjoy the current, unified format. It would be too easy to miss lots of great content if all videos were posted in threads of their own, unless you specifically subscribe to users whose videos you enjoy. But you'd still be likely to miss out on tons of stuff... Although the thread is gargantuan, I personally feel like it's become somewhat of an institution within this forum and wouldn't want it any other way. I enjoy the melting pot that it is, and the intrinsic chaos it brings about. But that's after over a year in the forum...at first I also found it daunting. Now I approach it more like I would a restaurant menu, where I skim over and see what's new, what's in season, and what I fancy ordering. I like the diversity and ample selection. But I can see how others might feel else-wise. I also notice that I've adapted to the way things are, and like it that way, but have nothing against fresh new perspectives (which is why I created this thread) What do you guys think? And the veterans in the forum? Edit: I'm not asking any mods for your opinion because I imagine you're probably already cursing under your breath at the fact I started this thread in the first place Edited January 17, 2020 by travsformation 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Brown Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 As a newer member, I have been far too intimidated by the size of the video thread to even look at it. I guess I'm too much of a completionist... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Rides Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Yeah, I think this would be a great idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travsformation Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Cory Brown said: As a newer member, I have been far too intimidated by the size of the video thread to even look at it. I guess I'm too much of a completionist... If you approach it with the idea of watching them all, you might need several lifetimes for that. I'd suggest picking it up now (if you're interested, of course), and following at your leisure. If you try to go back too far, you'll end up in a rabbit hole only a professional (miner?) will be able to dig you out of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenRyder Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, travsformation said: Personally, although I admit it's a fairly chaotic affair, I enjoy the current, unified format. It would be too easy to miss lots of great content if all videos were posted in threads of their own, unless you specifically subscribe to users whose videos you enjoy. But you'd still be likely to miss out on tons of stuff... This is a good point, but it looks like you can follow an entire forum. I just tried this and it appeared to allow me to follow a "Forum". So that means if you created a "Video Forum", people can subscribe to it and not "miss out" on any of the posts there. Then we could have posts and thread in the Video Forum on Trail riding, City riding, stunts, tricks, etc. All focused on posting videos or commenting on them. The ease of posting YouTube links allows us to have a context driven community built around the discussion of the Videos. I think it would become the most popular forum on ElectricUnicycle.org. Let's do it!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travsformation Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ZenRyder said: This is a good point, but it looks like you can follow an entire forum. I just tried this and it appeared to allow me to follow a "Forum". So that means if you created a "Video Forum", people can subscribe to it and not "miss out" on any of the posts there. Then we could have posts and thread in the Video Forum on Trail riding, City riding, stunts, tricks, etc. All focused on posting videos or commenting on them. The ease of posting YouTube links allows us to have a context driven community built around the discussion of the Videos. I think it would become the most popular forum on ElectricUnicycle.org. Let's do it!!! Very interesting approach. I'm not against it, but for now, I'm not going to endorse it, I reckon' I've probably already done enough to provoke the wrath of the mods! Edited January 17, 2020 by travsformation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenRyder Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, travsformation said: Very interesting approach. I'm not against it, but for now, I'm not going to endorse it, I reckon' I've probably already enough to provoke the wrath of the mods! I think this would be a real plus for the whole site. It would engage more new people which is what we are looking for right? Come on people, let's fix the whole video thread thing. It would be soooo much more usable! I'm not worried about the mods! Bring it... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Chang Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I like the idea of a video SECTION. Easier to search. Easier for discussion on certain videos. We could expand the section to include video tips and tricks to help us all improve our videography and editing skills. Let's do it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travsformation Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimmy Chang said: We could expand the section to include video tips and tricks to help us all improve our videography and editing skills. I've been wanting to start a thread/have a section on video recording/editing for some time...good idea! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, travsformation said: Edit: I'm not asking any mods for your opinion because I imagine you're probably already cursing under your breath at the fact I started this thread in the first place The opposite is true. We're discussing this as well at the moment (inspired by the recent discussions like the ones you quoted), and your opinions greatly help! Every initiative needs all the momentum it can get if we don't want to miss out on a good idea. As far as I'm concerned (you get my personal opinion whether you want it or not), my reply to your topic is simply a big fat "Yes!!" (honorable mention goes to @Gasmantle) The Video Thread can continue as a video index thread where no discussion is allowed and you can only post a short description, a video embed, and a link to the respective topic about the video, for example. People can see "every" video without distractions by checking this one thread and then enjoy all the discussion the want by following the links to the topics in the "Videos" subforum. Edited January 17, 2020 by meepmeepmayer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 I like the idea of a Video Thread with zero comments. I actually started to create one (unlisted), probably well over a year ago. I was going to copy all (yes, all) the existing videos into my new thread and every time a new video was posted, I'd put a copy in my thread. The task became too overwhelming though and I let it die. So yes, I'm all in favor of a no-comment video thread. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Unicyclist Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 1:53 PM, Marty Backe said: So yes, I'm all in favor of a no-comment video thread. I think a video section would be great, especially if combined with a "no-comment" thread... But there does need to be somewhere for people to comment on, ask questions about, et cetera. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayBanMonster Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) A VIDEO LIBRARY with Ratings and classifications (wheel/group ride type/ event type/ etc) A thread to me is a rather archaic way of referencing video is it not? Edited January 19, 2020 by RayBanMonster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenRyder Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 There is no way to cross post to multiple topics, right? I'm guessing it's a limitation of the software or an egregious violation of forum etiquette. However, it would be really nice if we could discuss in one Video forum and have all posted videos automatically (or by cross posting) to a Video Only section which doesn't allow comments. It's such an annoyance to have to remember to double post everything that even @Marty Backe quit because of the hassle. So somehow we'd need to make it easy. Now this would be a nice to have, in my book, not a requirement. Having a Video forum with multiple topics and posts would already be a plus. But that would be icing on the cake. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travsformation Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) On 1/17/2020 at 11:03 PM, meepmeepmayer said: The opposite is true. We're discussing this as well at the moment (inspired by the recent discussions like the ones you quoted), and your opinions greatly help! Every initiative needs all the momentum it can get if we don't want to miss out on a good idea. As far as I'm concerned (you get my personal opinion whether you want it or not), my reply to your topic is simply a big fat "Yes!!" (honorable mention goes to @Gasmantle) The Video Thread can continue as a video index thread where no discussion is allowed and you can only post a short description, a video embed, and a link to the respective topic about the video, for example. People can see "every" video without distractions by checking this one thread and then enjoy all the discussion the want by following the links to the topics in the "Videos" subforum. Glad you're on board! The influx of newcomers is proving very positive indeed! They bring fresh ideas and are a reminder of the need to make things more user-friendly (and future-proof) as the forum grows. Glad the mods are on board! 5 hours ago, ZenRyder said: here is no way to cross post to multiple topics, right? I'm guessing it's a limitation of the software or an egregious violation of forum etiquette. However, it would be really nice if we could discuss in one Video forum and have all posted videos automatically (or by cross posting) to a Video Only section which doesn't allow comments. It's such an annoyance to have to remember to double post everything that even @Marty Backe quit because of the hassle. So somehow we'd need to make it easy. Now this would be a nice to have, in my book, not a requirement. Having a Video forum with multiple topics and posts would already be a plus. But that would be icing on the cake. If, as you said in a previous post, it's possible to subscribe to a whole sub-section, that would make following videos threads much easier! As to having posts in both, it's not that much work to drop the video in both places and add a link to the specific thread (where conversation can take place), but that's what I say now...I can easily see it getting tedious in the long run. It would be nice if there were bots, like in Telegram messenger, that could automate the process and share links of all threads posted in the video section straight to The video thread. Edited January 19, 2020 by travsformation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, travsformation said: Glad you're on board! The influx of newcomers is proving very positive indeed! They bring fresh ideas and are a reminder of the need to make things more user-friendly (and future-proof) as the forum grows. Glad the mods are on board! I’m on board. Let’s get this done, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Maybe a "No comment Video Thread" to go along with the normal "Video Thread"? This way nobody loses anything. And people who want to see "every" video will manage to check two threads instead of one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 "Videos, Photos, Ride Reports"? Probably better to stay at "Videos". But I figured I'd mention this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenRyder Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 11 hours ago, Rehab1 said: I’m on board. Let’s get this done, Awesome!!! Getting my next video ready to post in the new dedicated Video Forum. Let me know when it's ready. I'm waiting patiently... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travsformation Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 19 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said: Maybe a "No comment Video Thread" to go along with the normal "Video Thread"? This way nobody loses anything. And people who want to see "every" video will manage to check two threads instead of one. I agree with @ZenRyder about creating a video sub-forum (I'd just call it "video"). I looked into it and it is indeed possible to subscribe to an entire sub-forum...although I can envision it being tedious if you get notifications for every single comment posted in every single thread. Even if it requires double-posting, we could use the current video thread as a sort of index, and people who just want to share their video can share it there, and people who want to have a discussion can create a topic in the video sub-forum and also share it in the video thread, along with a link to the topic they created for their video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenRyder Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Nobody has really been against this, right? One thing to consider is how to let people know how to use the new "feature". A post could be made referencing the new Forum and how to subscribe to it. Explaining the categories and how you can post videos in the different categories, but be alerted to all new videos by subscribing to the entire forum. Does there need to be a grand council of the mods to get this thing going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, ZenRyder said: Nobody has really been against this, right? Yep. But before something is done, we must know what exactly that is Just a single new "Videos" subforum? A new Video section containing a "Videos" subforum and a "Making Videos" subforum, for example (and other new video subforums)? Give us concrete ideas what you would like. We mods will pick the best one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasmantle Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) Whilst I think we all broadly agree on having some kind of a separate video section to replace the single video thread I can appreciate it isn't as easy to find the best way forward. One thing I'd like to suggest for consideration though is the possibility of directing wheel maintenance videos into the mods / repairs section and not in the proposed new video section. Any thoughts ? Edited January 21, 2020 by Gasmantle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenRyder Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 51 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: Yep. But before something is done, we must know what exactly that is Just a single new "Videos" subforum? A new Video section containing a "Videos" subforum and a "Making Videos" subforum, for example (and other new video subforums)? Give us concrete ideas what you would like. We mods will pick the best one. Fair enough. But let's explain first what is a "sub forum". I don't see any examples of that in existence on the site currently. Most forums have a post pinned to the top by a mod for general instructions, but I don't see any forums with any type of sub categories. How would this be implemented? Is there an example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Sorry, by subforum I just mean a forum like "General Discussion". I'm not sure if the entire site is "a forum" or "a bunch of foums". Subforum = forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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