A "video section" instead of "THE video thread" ?

[ZenRyder]

1 hour ago, meepmeepmayer said:

Just a single new "Videos" subforum?

Yes. All we need is a single "Video" forum. You can move some existing posts like the Video Thread into this new forum. But this will encourage us to create additional posts within this forum. 

For example, we can now make Posts under it and they will get more attention than simply following the one thread with 655 pages of comments and random videos. You can pin a post at the top of the Thread recommending new posts with regards to various aspects of Video. I can see the following posts starting new threads:

1. Hardware - What's the best camera for filming? Pros and Cons etc.
2. City Riding - Post the best city lane splitting video (ok, maybe not, but people already do this)
3. Off Road - Video of trail rides that are fun and some that are just tough
4. No Comments - just video (turn off commenting on this thread)
5. Video Techniques - What keeps viewers engaged?
6. Misc - And a bunch more posts with topics we haven't even thought of yet.

I think in this case there will wind up being multiple video threads based on topic instead of a single video thread and that alone will be a big improvement.

All of the following threads could be moved into the Video Forum to start:

It will take off from there on it's own.

1 hour ago, meepmeepmayer said:

Give us concrete ideas what you would like.

This is my concrete idea. Do as you will...

[meepmeepmayer]

We can always start with one new forum and go from there. Personally, I would also like a "Making Videos" forum where all the camera and Youtuber discussion can go. I would like this to be a sub-subforum (visually), not sure (yet) if this is supported here.

[ZenRyder]

Hey mods, what's going on with this? How hard is it to make a Video Forum? I feel like from the discussion I've seen it's all a good idea, yeah, let's do it, zzzzzzzzzzzz.........

Who's driving this bus? 

I've been waiting for something to happen. In the mean time I've created a new Topic here:

Would love to have it and the other Topics I've mentioned above moved into a Video Forum, whenever the time is right and the committee has a chance to make this complicated, life altering forum change. 

[meepmeepmayer]

It's coming... some time

[Unventor]

21 hours ago, ZenRyder said:

Hey mods, what's going on with this? How hard is it to make a Video Forum? I feel like from the discussion I've seen it's all a good idea, yeah, let's do it, zzzzzzzzzzzz.........

Who's driving this bus? 

I've been waiting for something to happen. In the mean time I've created a new Topic here:

Would love to have it and the other Topics I've mentioned above moved into a Video Forum, whenever the time is right and the committee has a chance to make this complicated, life altering forum change. 

Well we are debating best approches and since not all are here every minute or day these things takes time. I rather do this right than having to re structure ever so often. 

Edited January 28, 2020 by Unventor

[travsformation]

22 hours ago, ZenRyder said:

Hey mods, what's going on with this? How hard is it to make a Video Forum? I feel like from the discussion I've seen it's all a good idea, yeah, let's do it, zzzzzzzzzzzz.........

Who's driving this bus? 

I've been waiting for something to happen. In the mean time I've created a new Topic here:

Would love to have it and the other Topics I've mentioned above moved into a Video Forum, whenever the time is right and the committee has a chance to make this complicated, life altering forum change. 

Who said anything about buses? This is a decentralized network of PEVs

But on a serious note, the video section has been created. Expect more life altering changes from the High Committee of the Elders soon

Edited January 28, 2020 by travsformation

[Gasmantle]

It's great that we now have a separate video section but a shame that very few people use it the way it was intended 

We still have everyone adding to one thread so that new topics get lost instead of having a separate thread with it's own title.

Any chance the mods / admin team could offer a gentle reminder?

[Marty Backe]

1 hour ago, Gasmantle said:

It's great that we now have a separate video section but a shame that very few people use it the way it was intended 

We still have everyone adding to one thread so that new topics get lost instead of having a separate thread with it's own title.

Any chance the mods / admin team could offer a gentle reminder?

To be honest, I'm forever confused about these multiple threads. Am I supposed to double post my video in both threads? If not, what's the criteria for posting in one vs the other.

I'm lazy so I tend to just do what I've always done.

[Gasmantle]

Hi Marty, you post a lot of good videos and I'm interested in the Mten3 that you are now featuring but it gets lost in the long video thread - (I missed it and only saw it via your youtube page)

I thought it would be easier if you just started a new thread with its own title for each new topic and forget about the long video thread.

How about having a Mten3 thread then if you talk about mirrors for example on a later date start a mirror thread etc.

[winterwheel]

It seems like the long video thread is where you have to post videos if you want anyone to see them.

[Marty Backe]

50 minutes ago, Gasmantle said:

Hi Marty, you post a lot of good videos and I'm interested in the Mten3 that you are now featuring but it gets lost in the long video thread - (I missed it and only saw it via your youtube page)

I thought it would be easier if you just started a new thread with its own title for each new topic and forget about the long video thread.

How about having a Mten3 thread then if you talk about mirrors for example on a later date start a mirror thread etc.

I actually do create new threads where appropriate and then post the video in the video thread and my new thread. For instance, I did create a new 67-volt Mten3 topic in the Gotway section.

And I created a Mirror thread where I posted my helmet mirror video. It's in the Riding Safety section.

Edited March 6, 2020 by Marty Backe

[Gasmantle]

19 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

I actually do create new threads where appropriate and then post the video in the video thread and my new thread. For instance, I did create a new 67-volt Mten3 topic in the Gotway section.

And I created a Mirror thread where I posted my helmet mirror video. It's in the Riding Safety section.

I understand that Marty but I thought it would be easier if instead of people just adding to the video thread they just created a new topic in the video section.

Surely it makes sense for each new topic to have it's own thread and a title that reflects what it is about.

[winterwheel]

1 hour ago, Marty Backe said:

I actually do create new threads where appropriate and then post the video in the video thread and my new thread. For instance, I did create a new 67-volt Mten3 topic in the Gotway section.

And I created a Mirror thread where I posted my helmet mirror video. It's in the Riding Safety section.

This is precedent enough for me. 

[gr8ps]

The nuclear option would be to lock the OG video thread and pin it for posterity. 

[winterwheel]

2 minutes ago, gr8ps said:

The nuclear option would be to lock the OG video thread and pin it for posterity. 

Before doing that one might want to think about exactly what is it about the one-thread approach that draws more interest. I'm guessing a lot of people are interested in seeing whatever random videos pop up the thread, regardless of content. Having to jump into five different threads to see five new videos added since a last visit is drudgery. Also, one gets notifications that something has been added to the video thread. You don't get a notification if the video is put into a new thread. The video section seems like it is the most popular aspect of this site. As Elmer Fudd might say, be vewy vewy careful before blowing it up.

[Marty Backe]

1 hour ago, Gasmantle said:

I understand that Marty but I thought it would be easier if instead of people just adding to the video thread they just created a new topic in the video section.

Surely it makes sense for each new topic to have it's own thread and a title that reflects what it is about.

Maybe, but at least for me (too many videos), that's more work than I want 

[rolekl]

20 minutes ago, winterwheel said:

Before doing that one might want to think about exactly what is it about the one-thread approach that draws more interest. I'm guessing a lot of people are interested in seeing whatever random videos pop up the thread, regardless of content. Having to jump into five different threads to see five new videos added since a last visit is drudgery. Also, one gets notifications that something has been added to the video thread. You don't get a notification if the video is put into a new thread. The video section seems like it is the most popular aspect of this site. As Elmer Fudd might say, be vewy vewy careful before blowing it up.

Not even more threads, please... There are so many threads and so many sections to look through in this forum now, in my humble opinion it's a lot easier to cram more of the same type of content into a long, wonderful thread, like the video thread. The extra special content does seem to receive it's own thread anyway. Just my 2 cents.

[Unventor]

1 hour ago, Gasmantle said:

I understand that Marty but I thought it would be easier if instead of people just adding to the video thread they just created a new topic in the video section.

Surely it makes sense for each new topic to have it's own thread and a title that reflects what it is about.

I will join in here with my old trusty 2-cents. 

When we made the structure change we decided to keep the omg long video thread. 

We wanted to see how the community to use this new section rather forcing a specific change that could impact negative on creativity. 

So here comes my view (as a member rather than a moderator) : should seine decide to make a thread they call their"name's video highlights" I see no issues with that. It could be your videos or just videos you find interesting. But most are on YouTube so you can also click on uploaders name to look st their channel. By doing as @Marty Backe post both places or where he find it of interest to by viewed, I see no issues with that at all.

So moderator hat on again... We are listning to feedback always but some changes take time. And we take feedback from people with many different views. Then we debate, debate and listen some more, at some point changes is done again. We do this to keep the forum relevant for asany members as possible new or long time member or even founders... 

[travsformation]

13 hours ago, winterwheel said:

Also, one gets notifications that something has been added to the video thread. You don't get a notification if the video is put into a new thread.

You can actually subscribe to a whole forum. I get a daily e-mail summary for the entire video section

(but I'm not sure how many users are actually aware of this...)

12 hours ago, Unventor said:

So moderator hat on again... We are listning to feedback always but some changes take time. And we take feedback from people with many different views. Then we debate, debate and listen some more, at some point changes is done again. We do this to keep the forum relevant for asany members as possible new or long time member or even founders... 

Yeah, it seems like the video forum isn't gaining too much traction, and a lot of threads are going unnoticed. The Video Thread is still the simplest, most straight-forward way for "video consumers" to keep up with new content, and for video creators to just drop a link without having to create a new thread (and getting much more visibility).

I'm a bit divided, to be honest, as per-video threads encourage conversation more without derailing what is already a chaotic and gargantuan thread. For me, the new video forum is still in test run mode...let's see how it evolves and how users feel about it. It's nice to get feedback (positive or negative)...it's the silence that's unnerving 

[Gasmantle]

Is just seems odd to me that half the content of the forum is in one thread that has no index.

I think potentially the forum loses visitors owing to the way it's just lumping everything into one thread.

Now I find it easier to just check youtube every day or so, I can see what videos are new and see what the content is straight away.

[.....]

On 1/21/2020 at 5:03 PM, ZenRyder said:

Nobody has really been against this, right? One thing to consider is how to let people know how to use the new "feature". A post could be made referencing the new Forum and how to subscribe to it. Explaining the categories and how you can post videos in the different categories, but be alerted to all new videos by subscribing to the entire forum. 

Does there need to be a grand council of the mods to get this thing going?

Im against anything that requires me to try and think about organization. I made it as far as your post and realized, I am in the wrong place.. Seriously tho, I will work with whatever you bring me. I dont mind the way it is, but yeah its a lot of pages. When you consider that each is in youtube and you chase those links too... Could be lifetimes to get out! I am seriously reconsidering even bothering anymore with video, as it seems Ive little to offer to a market already flooded...  I vote for whatever is easiest for the mods.