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Gotway ACM/MSuper/Monster Charge Port Concerns


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Just now, KingSong69 said:

They GOT WAY to many Problems :-)

But most wheels use GX-16's anyway, maybe with a different number of pins, but they seem to always just use 2 pins, whether it's 3/4/5-pin GX-16... :P  I think 1RadWerkstatt used either different connectors or two or more GX-16's in parallel for their high-power chargers, at least I recall that at some point they had 8A charger for the old MSuper V2, but it required two charge ports?

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8 minutes ago, esaj said:

But most wheels use GX-16's anyway, maybe with a different number of pins, but they seem to always just use 2 pins, whether it's 3/4/5-pin GX-16... :P  I think 1RadWerkstatt used either different connectors or two or more GX-16's in parallel for their high-power chargers, at least I recall that at some point they had 8A charger for the old MSuper V2, but it required two charge ports?

For the Monster 2400wh they had an 13 Amp Charger Option...here they used a different connector, they showed that on their FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/1radwerkstatt/

 

 

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6 minutes ago, KingSong69 said:

For the Monster 2400wh they had an 13 Amp Charger Option...here they used a different connector, they showed that on their FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/1radwerkstatt/

 

 

Why don't we have a seller like that in the United States? :(

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4 hours ago, Rehab1 said:

That looks familiar.

 

How many more inferior components and maladroit assemblies are hidden within our wheels? My message to Gotway!

qdv5NTD.jpg

 

:roflmao:  Oh God, it took me a second to see what you did there. You're killing me :D

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1 hour ago, Marty Backe said:

:roflmao:  Oh God, it took me a second to see what you did there. You're killing me :D

I know... sick humor. My drawing skills are horrendous!:crying:

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1 hour ago, zlymex said:

It is not necessary to open the battery. The path goes like this(for my V3 of 820Wh at least):
The charge port --> 20AWG wires --> SM2P socket/plug --> 20AWG wires --> two soldered 'Y' joints --> two pairs of 20AWG wires that goes to each battery.

Therefore, the replacement is necessary only to the 'Y' joints.

That's good to know. I'm still leaving the wiring alone for now. Who knows the future thought ...

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1 hour ago, zlymex said:

Here is my IR photo when passing thru both wires of the GX-16-3 pair at 10A for some time.

The ambient temperature is 24.8C, spot 1 is the plastic socket, spot 2 is the heat shrink tube wrapped around the metal case of the soket(metal is not good for temperature reading). The hottest spot is the 18AWG wires(40.8C) which is for test only. I actually use 16AWG and GX16-4 for my V3s+.
GX16-3-10A.jpg.4f4864bcaaa629679ba574d0eb9d2e99.jpg

Love your detailed posts @zlymex :cheers:

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For what it's worth, mine had the exact same problem when I bought it.  The solder on the wires was never bonded to the port.  When I tore mine down to paint the panels, I found this same thing.  Pull off the horrible Hot Glue and the wire fell out.

 

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8 minutes ago, SuperSport said:

For what it's worth, mine had the exact same problem when I bought it.  The solder on the wires was never bonded to the port.  When I tore mine down to paint the panels, I found this same thing.  Pull off the horrible Hot Glue and the wire fell out.

 

Great video. Wish I could summon the energy to customize my wheel(s) too, they get too banged up. I don't want to be afraid to drop a wheel because the finish might get destroyed. Yours looks great though.

The one thing Gotway has is consistency. Consistently crappy workmanship :(

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1 minute ago, Marty Backe said:

The one thing Gotway has is consistency. Consistently crappy workmanship :(

I feel like they are getting better, but each time they figure out one thing, another pops up.  At least they are persistent. ;)

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4 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

Great video. Wish I could summon the energy to customize my wheel(s) too, they get too banged up. I don't want to be afraid to drop a wheel because the finish might get destroyed. Yours looks great though.

The one thing Gotway has is consistency. Consistently crappy workmanship :(

And you're still buying them? Why? They seem positively lethal.

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@LanghamP

  • Performance and looks:D
  • Due to their simple construction, Gotways are the best for having fun with modding. Lots of space left in the shells too. Try adding a new fan or whatever to a Kingsong or Inmotion.
  • In the end, EUCs are simple and extremely reliable once working. Also reliable is what we know about each wheel and what can go wrong. The Gotway crappyness is a known quantity. No random or unexpected happenings. A very calculable crappyness. So in a way, Gotways aren't actually crappy as long as they aren't crappy (and we know when they are crappy) if that makes sense;)
  • Who else would test the wheels of the sketchy exciting manufacturers? The manufacturers themselves? Ha!
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1 hour ago, LanghamP said:

And you're still buying them? Why? They seem positively lethal.

The charge port for instance is not exactly lethal.

But really, show me a serious alternative to the power and range of the ACM, MSuper, and Monster. Absolutely none exist for the ACM and Monster. One could argue that the new KS18S competes with the MSuper, but I have my doubts, particularly if you like full performance through 15% battery.

That's why I buy Gotway. They are like finicky high performance sports cars. I'm OK with that at least until there's a serious alternative. 

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