Unventor Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 22 hours ago, The Fat Unicyclist said: They're $29.99 on Alibaba - plus shipping. Pick-up point is the dark side of mars. Special price for you only refuellng your spaceship and free EUC charging for 1 hour. Voucher code:whichwayishome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggy Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Skins look dope - any idea where to get V8 types Also been rethinking the full moto gear look. Even though its bitterly cold and windproofing is appreciated - I feel too heavy. Also someone called me a power ranger the other day. Which I found hilarious but interesting.. Still laughing now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 I bought some Triple 8 knee pads just like Marty's to try out. I could have swore I double checked the sizing chart so I got them in medium. They seem to want to sit a bit low around my knee cap. Unfortunately my monster sized calves make the lower strap really difficult to secure. I'm not a big guy by any means, but maybe I should have bought a large? Those additional mini-flap straps don't do squat. If they would have made the lower strap just a few inches longer they would be fine. Maybe these are youth sizes or something? My calves aren't that big. On a side note I had a chance to finally go for a ride on my Tesla. The battery was still full from last fall! You do get used to the side panels as I didn't notice them much today, but maybe it was due to my kneepads cutting the circulation off from my lower legs! I almost forgot how much fun it is to zip around on these things. Plus so many admiring looks, smiles, and comments! I had to cut my ride short since I got tired of walking my wheel up these slushy spots: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: I bought some Triple 8 knee pads just like Marty's to try out. I could have swore I double checked the sizing chart so I got them in medium. They seem to want to sit a bit low around my knee cap. Unfortunately my monster sized calves make the lower strap really difficult to secure. I'm not a big guy by any means, but maybe I should have bought a large? Those additional mini-flap straps don't do squat. If they would have made the lower strap just a few inches longer they would be fine. Maybe these are youth sizes or something? My calves aren't that big. On a side note I had a chance to finally go for a ride on my Tesla. You do get used to the side panels as I didn't notice then much today, but maybe it was due to my kneepads cutting the circulation off from my lower legs! You adjust to every wheel after awhile. Glad you were able to get out for a nice ride (I assume that it was nice even though you didn't say). I think I'm an average build 5'11" guy, and the Large size fits me perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: I had to cut my ride short since I got tired of walking my wheel up these slushy spots: Those are not for walking! Those are for slooooow, careful, fun riding through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 This granny rider doesn't like taking slippery risks! Only smooth sailing for me! I'm no EUC Extreme or meepmeeproadrunnermayer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: I bought some Triple 8 knee pads just like Marty's to try out. I could have swore I double checked the sizing chart so I got them in medium. They seem to want to sit a bit low around my knee cap. They don’t sound very comfortable. I would just send them back and get the larger size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjon12 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 On 3/13/2018 at 9:48 AM, Rehab1 said: I just ordered these knee braces from Amazon. They appear structurally sound and offer mediolateral stability while also protecting the patella from a direct impact. Once I receive them I will have a better idea. The one thing I like about Amazon is their return policy so if they don’t meet my stardards I can easily send them back . I'm wondering if these would have saved me...I bought a used Inmotion V5F to learn how to ride while I awaited delivery of a V10F. I was in Jason's first 30 purchasers group and was offered to receive one via direct shipment from China, beating the crowd of new buyers by 3 weeks or more. After 4 days of practicing I had gotten to the point where I could ride 3 or 4 hundred yards in one direction, make a wide turn, and return to my starting point. A couple of times I actually made about 4 trips around the loop without stepping off. Then last Tuesday night when we had a nice sunny evening I went up to the local school to practice in a more confined area. Within about 20 minutes I took a bad fall onto my right side. As I went down I felt pressure on my left knee and heard a pop, and when I got up from the ground, I could no longer walk properly. My left knee was slipping in and out of its proper position. My local sports medicine orthopedic specialist says I at least sustained a grade 2 MCL sprain/tear and has ordered an MRI to see if anything else is damaged. So now I'm in a leg brace similar to what's shown in the picture, sans patella guard, and am on crutches for at least the next 4 to 6 weeks while it hopefully heals. I told Jason I was giving up my place in line for the first batch of V10Fs, and wasn't even sure if I would continue learning to ride a wheel. Perhaps an investment in something like these knee braces would have prevented this @#$%$#^& injury. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 hour ago, kjon12 said: My local sports medicine orthopedic specialist says I at least sustained a grade 2 MCL sprain/tear and has ordered an MRI to see if anything else is damaged. So now I'm in a leg brace similar to what's shown in the picture, sans patella guard, and am on crutches for at least the next 4 to 6 weeks while it hopefully heals. I told Jason I was giving up my place in line for the first batch of V10Fs, and wasn't even sure if I would continue learning to ride a wheel. Perhaps an investment in something like these knee braces would have prevented this @#$%$#^& injury. Thoughts? Sorry man! That really sucks and it sounds like you were taking the cautious route while learning to ride. Hopefully the MRI comes back negative and the MCL is just sprained. It would be hard to determine if my knee braces would have prevented your injury. Unfortunately our creator did not make the human knee to withstand substantial loading while twisting with a planted foot. I know it hurts tremendously and you’re extremely disappointed but wait until the MRI comes back before making any rash decisions. Trust me 6 weeks goes by fast. If you don’t require surgery your physician will send you to therapy for strengthening. Even if you require surgery you will bounce back fast. I felt the same way as you 2 months ago and was never going to ride again. Now there is only one thing stopping me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 That's exactly the sort of thing I wanted to prevent by trying to bring up the possible routine use of these knee braces. @dmethvin had a similar accident, and he's been riding for quite a long time. I recently bought myself a pair of Shock Doctor 872 (875 are pricier) to try out. Unfortunately they don't have patella covers, but I'm going to see if my old pair of knee pads can go over top. Maybe we should consider adding these braces to our arsenal of standard protective gear. Research seems not so clear though about the benefits of their use. https://www.ctikneebraces.co.uk/blog/rigid-knee-brace-work https://www.drdavidgeier.com/knee-braces-prevent-injuries-football/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: That's exactly the sort of thing I wanted to prevent by trying to bring up the possible routine use of these knee braces. @dmethvin had a similar accident, and he's been riding for quite a long time. I recently bought myself a pair of Shock Doctor 872 (875 are pricier) to try out. Unfortunately they don't have patella covers, but I'm going to see if my old pair of knee pads can go over top. Maybe we should consider adding these braces to arsenal of standard protective gear. Research seems not so clear though about the benefits of their use. https://www.ctikneebraces.co.uk/blog/rigid-knee-brace-work https://www.drdavidgeier.com/knee-braces-prevent-injuries-football/ Like your first linked CTI article states: ‘A rigid knee brace can be worn as a preventative measure or post injury to stabilize the joint’. The rigid articulated frame is the key to providing adequate support in all three planes. Soft knee braces offer very little value in protection. I must admit my knee braces felt secure but are somewhat cumbersome. Unfortunately I never got the chance to fully evaluate them on Friday. Also putting all of the gear on took about 15 minutes. What a pain. Once my arm is better maybe I’ll be able to donn the equipment in 1/3 that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 hours ago, kjon12 said: I'm wondering if these would have saved me...I bought a used Inmotion V5F to learn how to ride while I awaited delivery of a V10F. I was in Jason's first 30 purchasers group and was offered to receive one via direct shipment from China, beating the crowd of new buyers by 3 weeks or more. After 4 days of practicing I had gotten to the point where I could ride 3 or 4 hundred yards in one direction, make a wide turn, and return to my starting point. A couple of times I actually made about 4 trips around the loop without stepping off. Then last Tuesday night when we had a nice sunny evening I went up to the local school to practice in a more confined area. Within about 20 minutes I took a bad fall onto my right side. As I went down I felt pressure on my left knee and heard a pop, and when I got up from the ground, I could no longer walk properly. My left knee was slipping in and out of its proper position. My local sports medicine orthopedic specialist says I at least sustained a grade 2 MCL sprain/tear and has ordered an MRI to see if anything else is damaged. So now I'm in a leg brace similar to what's shown in the picture, sans patella guard, and am on crutches for at least the next 4 to 6 weeks while it hopefully heals. I told Jason I was giving up my place in line for the first batch of V10Fs, and wasn't even sure if I would continue learning to ride a wheel. Perhaps an investment in something like these knee braces would have prevented this @#$%$#^& injury. Thoughts? So sorry to hear of your fall. Give it time. The body is amazing and you were clearly bit by the wheel bug. You'll probably have a much better outlook in a couple of months, as @Rehab1 says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRay Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: So sorry to hear of your fall. Give it time. The body is amazing and you were clearly bit by the wheel bug. You'll probably have a much better outlook in a couple of months, as @Rehab1 says. The wheel bug's bite really hurts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatcat Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 7 hours ago, kjon12 said: I'm wondering if these would have saved me...I bought a used Inmotion V5F to learn how to ride while I awaited delivery of a V10F. I was in Jason's first 30 purchasers group and was offered to receive one via direct shipment from China, beating the crowd of new buyers by 3 weeks or more. After 4 days of practicing I had gotten to the point where I could ride 3 or 4 hundred yards in one direction, make a wide turn, and return to my starting point. A couple of times I actually made about 4 trips around the loop without stepping off. Then last Tuesday night when we had a nice sunny evening I went up to the local school to practice in a more confined area. Within about 20 minutes I took a bad fall onto my right side. As I went down I felt pressure on my left knee and heard a pop, and when I got up from the ground, I could no longer walk properly. My left knee was slipping in and out of its proper position. My local sports medicine orthopedic specialist says I at least sustained a grade 2 MCL sprain/tear and has ordered an MRI to see if anything else is damaged. So now I'm in a leg brace similar to what's shown in the picture, sans patella guard, and am on crutches for at least the next 4 to 6 weeks while it hopefully heals. I told Jason I was giving up my place in line for the first batch of V10Fs, and wasn't even sure if I would continue learning to ride a wheel. Perhaps an investment in something like these knee braces would have prevented this @#$%$#^& injury. Thoughts? Well, they might have lessened the damage done, but if you take a bad fall with twisting or sideways motion in the knee there is always a risk of injury. I'm actually in the market for knee braces myself. The pads I use now are excellent for hard trauma damage to the patella, but wouldn't do squat if there was twisting or sideways motion in the joint. I had an injury to the meniscus during my first month of riding. The therapy did wonders, and the instructor was a tough guy that wouldn't let me skip on it Less than a month later I was on the wheel again, riding VERY carefully for all of maybe five minutes before I forgot all caution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Scatcat said: Well, they might have lessened the damage done, but if you take a bad fall with twisting or sideways motion in the knee there is always a risk of injury. I'm actually in the market for knee braces myself. The pads I use now are excellent for hard trauma damage to the patella, but wouldn't do squat if there was twisting or sideways motion in the joint. I had an injury to the meniscus during my first month of riding. The therapy did wonders, and the instructor was a tough guy that wouldn't let me skip on it Less than a month later I was on the wheel again, riding VERY carefully for all of maybe five minutes before I forgot all caution On my self-lession on Saturday I almost crashed but managed to get somewhat control of the wheel until I decided til step off before doing a faceplant. End result was a twist to my knee...aka 2 days recovery rest. New training today, Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmethvin Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 11 hours ago, kjon12 said: My local sports medicine orthopedic specialist says I at least sustained a grade 2 MCL sprain/tear and has ordered an MRI to see if anything else is damaged. So now I'm in a leg brace similar to what's shown in the picture, sans patella guard, and am on crutches for at least the next 4 to 6 weeks while it hopefully heals. I told Jason I was giving up my place in line for the first batch of V10Fs, and wasn't even sure if I would continue learning to ride a wheel. Yeah that sounds a lot like mine. I have a full ACL tear and partial MCL, plus torn meniscus. I was only on crutches for about 3 days until there was no pain bearing weight, then a cane for another 5 days, and just the knee brace after that (which I still wear 6 weeks later). I've been going to PT twice a week. It's just now getting to where it's not really tight and sore every day when I get up. In my case, the ortho wants to wait for everything to heal before assessing to decide what to do, which should be next month. Depending on your age and activity level I understand they may recommend that you don't get an ACL tear fixed because it takes almost a full year to completely recover. The main risk is that your knee feels loose and can pop out again, which may cause more damage to the meniscus or re-tear the MCL. Doing the PT is really important whether you get the surgery or not, and be sure to do any exercises they prescribe for home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjon12 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 3 hours ago, dmethvin said: In my case, the ortho wants to wait for everything to heal before assessing to decide what to do, which should be next month. Depending on your age and activity level I understand they may recommend that you don't get an ACL tear fixed because it takes almost a full year to completely recover. The main risk is that your knee feels loose and can pop out again, which may cause more damage to the meniscus or re-tear the MCL. Doing the PT is really important whether you get the surgery or not, and be sure to do any exercises they prescribe for home. I had an ACL rupture when I was 18 (sheesh, 45 years ago) on a silly motorcycle fall in the sand on a beach. It still psychologically affects me to this day. Our family's country bumpkin doctor said it was just a bad sprain and to give it a few weeks to heal. After that right knee popped out 3 or 4 times in the next year, I went to a specialist who told me about the ruptured ACL. By then the two ends of the ACL could not be reconnected, and I lived with a missing ACL for 20 years. Finally, in the late 1980s, I found out you could get an ACL repair using part of your hamstring as the ACL material. That operation was a success, and my right knee is firm and solid. Unfortunately, I have no medial meniscus in that knee now, which is giving me arthritis and big twinges of pain fairly often. Plus, I still find myself favoring that knee when standing still or working out at the gym. This is my constant companion on my left knee for the next few weeks: https://www.breg.com/products/knee-bracing/post-op/t-scope-premier-post-op-knee-brace/ It's a pretty neat device. There was nothing like this on the market back when I needed support for my right knee problems. If my current injury is only the MCL, which heals on its own, I will probably get back on my V5F wheel, much to my wife's dismay. But, you have to get back up on the horse that throws you ASAP or you will lose the courage. Even though I was wearing full protection when I went down, I think I will supplement it with the EVS Sports braces, or something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 39 minutes ago, kjon12 said: If my current injury is only the MCL, which heals on its own, I will probably get back on my V5F wheel, much to my wife's dismay. But, you have to get back up on the horse that throws you ASAP or you will lose the courage. Even though I was wearing full protection when I went down, I think I will supplement it with the EVS Sports braces, or something similar. Hehe another wife dismay...what us men put up with. Why can't we be allowed to got and do "silly" things for our short lived enjoyment at the risk of permanent injury. What can possibly go work? We are adults and almost carefull right @Rehab1 ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Unventor said: We are adults and almost carefull right @Rehab1 ??? Adults are careful. I tend to think we are almost adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatcat Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 10 hours ago, Rehab1 said: Adults are careful. I tend to think we are almost adults. Almost careful almost adults... Given I have almost certainly passed the halfway mark on the schedule of life, and still behave like a fifteen year old with death defying megalomanic tendencies... I start to understand the phrase "youth is wasted on the young!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Scatcat said: Almost careful almost adults... Given I have almost certainly passed the halfway mark on the schedule of life, and still behave like a fifteen year old with death defying megalomanic tendencies... I start to understand the phrase "youth is wasted on the young!" Hehe some of my work colleagues have spotted you riding when coming or going from my work (krokslätt fabriker). They all went "I saw some speeding fast by in laidback style vaporing. He was driving crazy fast" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 2018-04-15 at 7:37 PM, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: ... I recently bought myself a pair of Shock Doctor 872 (875 are pricier) to try out. Unfortunately they don't have patella covers, but I'm going to see if my old pair of knee pads can go over top. Hey Hunka, how did that pair of knee braces work out? Well I got them today in size extra large, and they fit snug! Maybe they are supposed to fit that way, but man they do not feel that comfortable since you have to slip them on like a super tight pair of jeans. I'm starting to feel like I've got a set of logs for legs! Once on they are okay, but they don't feel like they really are doing any bracing since the top and bottom parts aren't rigid. The hinged side arms are okay, but they still allow things to move laterally a bit. Perhaps I just don't know how they are supposed to work exactly, but I think I'm sending them back to Amazon. I might try to see if I can find a less expensive rigid brace to try out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatcat Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 18 hours ago, Unventor said: Hehe some of my work colleagues have spotted you riding when coming or going from my work (krokslätt fabriker). They all went "I saw some speeding fast by in laidback style vaporing. He was driving crazy fast" . Wheellog usually gives me a mean speed of 26-28 kph, and top speeds between 36-40 kph. The mean speed would probably be higher, if there weren't any parts of the way where I had to take pedestrians into consideration. The GT16 is a sultry temptress... And I DO wear a lot of protection: shoulders, elbows, back, knees, wrists and of course head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmethvin Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: Hey Hunka, how did that pair of knee braces work out? Well I got them today in size extra large, and they fit snug! Maybe they are supposed to fit that way, but man they do not feel that comfortable since you have to slip them on like a super tight pair of jeans. I'm starting to feel like I've got a set of logs for legs! Once on they are okay, but they don't feel like they really are doing any bracing since the top and bottom parts aren't rigid. The hinged side arms are okay, but they still allow things to move laterally a bit. Perhaps I just don't know how they are supposed to work exactly, but I think I'm sending them back to Amazon. I might try to see if I can find a less expensive rigid brace to try out. Sorry to interrupt your conversation with yourself ? but yeah I'm not sure there are super comfortable knee braces that provide good protection against lateral forces. I got one of the hinged braces with velcro strapping from the doctor's office. Those are "level 3" support and pretty snug. Besides being kind of uncomfortable, they limit the range of motion. I also have a slip-on "level 2" brace like this one that is more comfortable but only has a couple of plastic straps sewn into it on the side. There is also "level 1" but that is basically just an elastic compression sleeve with no side supports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Hunka told me that the shock doctor he got felt like they would impair his leg circulation over time. He told me that even though they fit tight, the braces didn't appear to add much support as far as he could tell. What's that? Oh he just said that maybe he isn't quite qualified to assess the effectiveness of these in a professional capacity so he is just relaying his newbish opinion of them. He said maybe Rehab1's work better, but boy are they pricey. But not as pricey as knee surgery. Hunka also thinks these still might be worth considering if he can find a well fitting one that is easier to put on and take off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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