gon2fast Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, Paul A said: Dangerous advertisements can be banned for misleading viewers as to the safe and proper use of a product. well there was that one time with the Master... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, gon2fast said: well there was that one time with the Master... Yes, Chinese safety standards for workers might not be that great. Spoiler https://www.safetynewsalert.com/worker-fatalities-how-does-china-compare-to-u-s/ March 4, 2010 Worker fatalities: How does China compare to U.S.? China says 83,196 people lost their lives in work-related incidents last year. China’s State Administration of Work Safety reported 380,000 incidents in the workplace that caused death or injury. How does that stack up compared to the U.S.? To put the situation into perspective, the U.S. has a workforce of 155 million, while China has over five times that amount, at about 801 million. The U.S. reported 5,071 worker deaths in 2008. Approximately 14 workers die per day in the U.S. compared to 228 in China. Edited March 15, 2023 by Paul A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Funky Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) My dad may turn in his KS16S for this one. Maybe.. If it's lighter than KS16S and waterproofing isn't a "gimmick". Performance should be pretty equal. Edited March 15, 2023 by Funky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaWay Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Well, that's not the mcm6 I hoped for. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjPanJan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 20Kg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 15 inch wheel with 750wh battery? Ehhh, why? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 5 hours ago, thendless said: received_1343984036451260.mp4 Haha typical Begode fashion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, DjPanJan said: 20Kg? Should be under 20kg. Or at least around there. Otherwise kingsong 16X/18XL would beat it... 12 minutes ago, BKW said: 15 inch wheel with 750wh battery? Ehhh, why? Why not? Perfect commuter wheel. Home > train/bus > job. Or if you got ~4 miles trip daily. At least something in lightweight class finally over ~4 years! (I don'' count mTen4.) Edited March 15, 2023 by Funky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhpr262 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, BKW said: 15 inch wheel with 750wh battery? Ehhh, why? Great all-weather commuter or last-five-miles wheel? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, mhpr262 said: Great all-weather commuter or last-five-miles wheel? Personally i would have loved a "real" 16" wheel. Which has 17.5" tire. Or even better a real 18" one. (Doh i can see 18" wheel being to big on this thing.) Edited March 15, 2023 by Funky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, mhpr262 said: Great all-weather commuter or last-five-miles wheel? Get caught in a downpour? Bring this thing out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BKW said: Get caught in a downpour? Bring this thing out? As someone who uses EUC as a transportation device. Not just a "hobby". I don't care what weather is outside. I need to be places - i ride. That's why ALL EUC's should be waterproof! As a rule! Edited March 15, 2023 by Funky 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Funky said: As someone who uses EUC as a transportation device. Not just a "hobby". I don't care what weather is outside. I need to be places - i ride. That's why ALL EUC's should be waterproof! As a rule! Maybe you should throw a Begode designer in the lake instead? Maybe this will encourage them further? 😜 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BKW said: Maybe you should throw a Begode designer in the lake instead? Maybe this will encourage them further? 😜 I just don't understand.. These devices are made for outdoors. Yet aren't protected against elements? Like WTF??? They don't understand that it's raining outside? And people need to be places. No-one will wait for the rain to stop. If you need to be specific time at job or place. One would think - that would be number one rule that needs to be updated/added. In fall I'm riding in very heavy rain almost every second/third day. (Thank god for backpack rain covers over EUC. Also thank god for silicone - silicone all motor, everything shut.) Edited March 15, 2023 by Funky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbrunoeuc Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 It looks very cool😎. Waterproofing should be a standard at least good enough for heavy rain. Throwing it into water doesn't seem practical. 😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) The guy rode it under water. I would be worried about the wheel bearings. If the bearings did not get water damaged, that would be very impressive. Are they using marine grease plus waterproof bearing seals? This thing is ideal to have around swimming pools. You don’t have to tell everyone not to ride so close to the pool. I think the best part is when it is time to clean the mud and guck off. Just pressure wash it. Come to think of it, this could be a good winter wheel. Edited March 16, 2023 by techyiam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BKW Posted March 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) Why is begode so dead-set on this design (mten4/master design)? A 750wh battery for a 15 inch wheel doesn't make much sense to me when you have other wheels similar in size that go way farther with better performance. The only thing that makes this wheel desirable over something else in the same size would be the waterproofing. But, once again, they make an EUC that is only good at one thing... if they put good range, safety, waterproofing, performance into a mid-size or larger wheel it'd be amazing. Instead what they do is they do something like the A2 that only really has waterproofing and slightly better stability going for it over the mten4? It's basically a mten4 with waterproofing and 15". And they'll likely charge the same price as a 16X, or even more! Waterproofing is the only thing that's impressive about this wheel, and since it's begode who knows how true this "waterproofing" really is... No way I'd buy this wheel with 750wh and 1000w motor, even if you could ride under water Begode is smoking crack... pumping out way too many EUCs like an autistic-engineer who can only focus on one "upgrade" over the other, while ignoring everything else. Fail. Edited March 16, 2023 by BKW 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mrelwood Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) A bit of a surprise from Begode to come out with an Mfourteen. But to have the Mten specs is quite a letdown. Typical Begode advertising to go fully overboard when trying to prove something in their videos! How about a wheel that can actually go 150km/h… in the trunk of a car. Anyone else grin when the guy in the video is riding the allegedly “spiked pedals” barefoot?? They definitely couldn’t have done it with my spiked X-Road pedals! I’ve tried. Edit: What’s with the naming though? Master, EX30, Mten, A2… No common consensus whatsoever. Edited March 16, 2023 by mrelwood 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, mrelwood said: What’s with the naming though? Master, EX30, Mten, A2… No common consensus whatsoever. Haha, true. I never even noticed that. I give respect to Begode for engineering these wheel regardless, but Begode is a comedy to me 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) Somehow i think it should have a ~1200Wh battery pack and 2.000-2.500W motor. And real 16" NOT 14" tire... Like mentioned these specs looks kind disappointing. For a "middle" range wheel. It makes me laugh... Manufacturers go and make wheels like mTen4. Or big monsters... They can't find the good ~25kg wheel spot! To big or to small, only two options. If i'm drawing ~2600W every ride from my wheel. I'm right to think that 1000W motor will be to small for me? (Or you can't compare it like that?) Edited March 16, 2023 by Funky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gon2fast Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 They must have a lot of old stock if they are pushing 84V controller with this wheel. The 100V commuter wheel never came to light, though I do remember some assembly line pics, but that could have been of the T3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robse Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 57 minutes ago, mrelwood said: Anyone else grin when the guy in the video is riding the allegedly “spiked pedals” barefoot?? They definitely couldn’t have done it with my spiked X-Road pedals! I’ve tried. The best grin is that he is wearing a helmet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 46 minutes ago, mrelwood said: What’s with the naming though? A2 is an Australian brand of milk, milk powder, infant formula. In 2008, China had a milk powder/infant formula scandal and crisis. https://www.scmp.com/business/companies/article/3051808/foreign-brands-still-dominate-parents-do-not-trust-chinas-home 300,000 children in China were poisoned after drinking infant milk that contained melamine, a chemical used in plastics. Six babies were killed by the toxic substance, which was used by 22 companies to artificially boost the protein levels that showed up in nutrition tests. Those responsible were punished with sentences ranging from lengthy prison terms to the death penalty. Foreign brands are seen as “way more trustworthy” and this reputation is likely to last for very long time, EIU says _______ At one stage, desperate Chinese parents were paying exorbitant prices to have people in Australia buy and send infant formula, via social media such as Weibo, Ebay, etc. Supermarket shelves in Australia were rapidly depleted and emptied. Limits were implemented, physical fights erupted between customers in stores. Perhaps Begode was personally impacted and now paying homage? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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