litewave Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 If you can, be willing to relocate to another city, state, province or country that lacks the energy and desire to pursue regulations against fun-loving niche groups. In the US, I believe the southern/red states are far more tolerant in my experience. Based on posts made on this site, there appear to be some European and Asian countries with the same mindset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triexy Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, litewave said: If you can, be willing to relocate to another city, state, province or country that lacks the energy and desire to pursue regulations against fun-loving niche groups. In the US, I believe the southern/red states are far more tolerant in my experience. Based on posts made on this site, there appear to be some European and Asian countries with the same mindset. In China they are forbidden too -.- It's illegal to ride in China both on the mainroad or pavement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Triexy said: In China they are forbidden too -.- It's illegal to ride in China both on the mainroad or pavement. I've always been totally gobsmacked by this given their seemingly 'anything goes' attitude when it comes to vehicles. Some of the home-brew contraptions they ride around in/on, loaded up with people/dogs/farm animals combined with only one necessary vehicle item (the horn) to save themselves from the carnage of box junctions/roundabouts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triexy Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Planemo said: I've always been totally gobsmacked by this given their seemingly 'anything goes' attitude when it comes to vehicles. Some of the home-brew contraptions they ride around in/on, loaded up with people/dogs/farm animals combined with only one necessary vehicle item (the horn) to save themselves from the carnage of box junctions/roundabouts! Something like that or or 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Triexy said: In germany they did that they turn arround crossed one street to get one euc driver I meant will they come on "pavement" where cars can't go.. Good luck catching me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Riding EUC in China Shenzhen. 238 views · 5 years ago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcatraz Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 12 hours ago, Planemo said: I've always been totally gobsmacked by this given their seemingly 'anything goes' attitude when it comes to vehicles. Some of the home-brew contraptions they ride around in/on, loaded up with people/dogs/farm animals combined with only one necessary vehicle item (the horn) to save themselves from the carnage of box junctions/roundabouts! It's only strict in the big cities where enforcement is stronger. Apart from the major 4-5 cities I think you can ride quite freely. But if you attempt to ride during rush hour you'll find it tricky in many more cities. Some chinese cities have accepted riding (bicycles, electric vehicles, motorcycles), some haven't. If your city has accepted riding you can ride at any time of day. If it's forbidden you have to avoid rush hour. Then there's the crackdowns. You can ride past police 8 months a year and then suddenly there's that one month they decided to go after riders. Every city is a bit different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begodecrashtestdummy Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 After listening to norm macdonald and what goes on under the queensborough bridge I would steer clear of it.Plus I don’t have 15$ to spend 🤣🤣🤣🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikB Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 On 4/16/2022 at 7:50 PM, GothamMike said: Fight to the very end? Ha! Until the police take your EUC and tell you sternly not to ride them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) The law above does not address EUCs directly. It says that EVERYTHING not human powered is illegal unless we say otherwise. Scooters are fine. My EUC is a scooter. My EUC identifies as a scooter. How can anyone say it is not. What is the legal definition of a scooter. Edited April 21, 2022 by RockyTop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFartRides Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooter_(motorcycle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Wiki is not a legal definition. It is more of a propaganda network that rots the brain. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 52 minutes ago, VikB said: Ha! Until the police take your EUC and tell you sternly not to ride them! That would be daylight robbery.. And act against humans rights. If you remove "police" part.. F. them. 31 minutes ago, RockyTop said: The law above does not address EUCs directly. It says that EVERYTHING not human powered is illegal unless we say otherwise. Scooters are fine. My EUC is a scooter. My EUC identifies as a scooter. How can anyone say it is not. What is the legal definition of a scooter. So now cars also are not allowed? Only if we go "stone age" and use our legs to drive. Isn't it against law to presume someone's "gender" he/she/it/them/donkey? Same here my euc are scooter so stfu. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RockyTop Posted April 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2022 See! My EUC is fine! I charged it with a hand crank generator. It is human powered 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFartRides Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 2 hours ago, RockyTop said: It is more of a propaganda network that rots the brain. Well that’s an interesting opinion. I thought it was a great entry. Lots of history, pics. Scooters traditionally have two wheels. Seems like you are redefining unicycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, OldFartRides said: Well that’s an interesting opinion. I thought it was a great entry. Lots of history, pics. Scooters traditionally have two wheels. Seems like you are redefining unicycle. I don’t want to redefine Unicycle. What is a scooter. Does it have to have two wheels? No. They make 3 and 4 wheeled work scooters. They make 3 and 4 wheeled handicap scooters. It has been said that i really scoot on that one wheeled contraption. Why is it not a scooter? Shooter - thing that scoots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikachu Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, RockyTop said: The law above does not address EUCs directly. It says that EVERYTHING not human powered is illegal unless we say otherwise. Scooters are fine. My EUC is a scooter. My EUC identifies as a scooter. How can anyone say it is not. What is the legal definition of a scooter. seems like EUCs don't qualify due to lack of handlebars SECTION 114-E Electric scooter Vehicle & Traffic (VAT) CHAPTER 71, TITLE 1, ARTICLE 1 § 114-e. Electric scooter. Every device weighing less than one hundred pounds that (a) has handlebars, a floorboard or a seat that can be stood or sat upon by the operator, and an electric motor, (b) can be powered by the electric motor and/or human power, and (c) has a maximum speed of no more than twenty miles per hour on a paved level surface when powered solely by the electric motor. Edited April 22, 2022 by Rikachu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanman Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 The electric scooter boom provided a nice legal space to exist in several states where they were popular. Unfortunately the speed and power limits make all but the smallest wheels illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikachu Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, chanman said: The electric scooter boom provided a nice legal space to exist in several states where they were popular. Unfortunately the speed and power limits make all but the smallest wheels illegal. i wonder if the speed refers to the speed claimed by the manufacturer or if the rider can just limit the max speed in the app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rikachu Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, Paul A said: I know it's easy to just look at a pamphlet. But even though it's from the Department of Transportation, it's not the language of the law. That's not to say police officer will not issue you a ticket because they think something. But if you want to fight the ticket, the judge must look at the actual laws, ordinances, and the vehicle and traffic codes. That's as far as I know, and I don't know everything. If someone knows otherwise do correct me. Edited April 22, 2022 by Rikachu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Yes, DOT ruling doesn't seem to have been tested in court. CBS New York article from 1 September, 2015. https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/motorized-unicycles-legality-confusion/ Legality Question About Motorized Unicycles Causes Confusion NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) -- There are more people, bicycles and cars in New York City than ever before, but one new form of transportation has been causing confusion. As CBS2's Meg Baker reported, motorized unicycles are taking over the streets. But are the quirky conveyances allowed? The NYPD says no. The unicycles fall under Hoverboard and Segway categories and are not legal in New York City, just like e-bikes and electric scooters. But CBS2 spoke to all sorts of authorities who are supposed to enforce the rule, and they seemed confused themselves. "We don't know – new technology. We don't know," one officer said. Another officer said the motorized unicycles are allowed in the park, and a third said they are allowed in general. But according to the city Department of Transportation, "motorized self-balancing devices, such as Segways and other 'personal transporters,' are prohibited in New York City." It is up to the NYPD, however, to enforce. William Kenyon is the creator of the motorized unicycle – known as the Jetson Wheel – an electric personal transport device. He sells for $900, and he said he can ride it anywhere. He said he has even sold a few to police officers in his neighborhood for personal use. "I sold a couple to maybe, like 30 police officers," Kenyon said. But according to the NYPD, personal transport devices cannot be registered with the state Department of Motor Vehicles, and therefore are illegal. Police can give people a ticket for riding a motorized unicycle, but the NYPD said it is unsure how the law is being enforced or if any violations have been written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothamMike Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 6:47 PM, Rikachu said: I know it's easy to just look at a pamphlet. But even though it's from the Department of Transportation, it's not the language of the law. That's not to say police officer will not issue you a ticket because they think something. But if you want to fight the ticket, the judge must look at the actual laws, ordinances, and the vehicle and traffic codes. That's as far as I know, and I don't know everything. If someone knows otherwise do correct me. The bureaucrats can interpret the laws, and this document is considered valid until a court throws it out. Government policies are based on the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Surfling Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) @Kingsong16XNYC So, many are curious....HOW MUCH WAS THE FINE ?? Edited April 25, 2022 by Surfling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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