TomRedsterRed Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Hey guys! What do you think about KS 22 pro of third revision? Someone has it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, TomRedsterRed said: Hey guys! What do you think about KS 22 pro of third revision? Someone has it? It's a very nice wheel for what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacerda Ronaldo Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Hey guys!! Does anyone know how to turn off all the lights when riding a kingsong e wheel KS19? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 33 minutes ago, Lacerda Ronaldo said: Hey guys!! Does anyone know how to turn off all the lights when riding a kingsong e wheel KS19? Better suited for the S19 thread: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) my s22 pro with its 90/90 r14 michelin city grip 2 tire is my favorite ranch surveillance tool right now. this surpasses my expectations for getting around fast and effortlessly, although still a work out. the 90 width michelin edges out the 80 width because it floats a little better in the patches of sugar sand. but yeah, big fun, all the while doing my job. Edited February 2 by novazeus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Finally hit some trail! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 u know i love my s22 pros. jason at ewheels has a great sale going on right now so i just ordered another one, sb here next week! gonna slap a 90/90 r14 michelin pilot street 2 on it, and see if there's any performance boost from the 40t batteries. upon further investigation, since range isn't an issue for me, low end torque is, so the 40t has more output than the 50s i was waiting on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer04 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Rode a mate's S22 recently, must say I'm a little jealous of this wheel, compared to my Master. It wasn't huge, but I could tell that I was braking faster, throwing the wheel around more easily, and the suspension was actually operating pretty well (at least on his version of the wheel). Just driveway testing, but it really shows how important even 5-7kg is (my Master weighs in at 42-43kg). The only complaint I had was that the wheel felt a bit underpowered - It was pedal-dipping (overleaning) on hard braking and accelerations when I shifted my weight. I could probably have gotten even more performance out of it if not for that, because I'd be willing to push the wheel harder. Try as I might, I can't pedal dip my Master unless traction is questionable (that being said, the additional weight of the master will also make it harder to decelerate/accelerate as strongly) I won't say I regret getting my Master, but I really enjoyed riding the S22. Just so responsive and easy to ride. I want to buy one now, but the lower top speed headroom, slider maintenance, lower maximum torque and waterproofing issues all deter me (plus the cost, but that goes without saying XD). Hopefully someone (including KS) makes another wheel in this weight class but with the above addressed.... Would be an epic EUC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 8 hours ago, Panzer04 said: Rode a mate's S22 recently, must say I'm a little jealous of this wheel, compared to my Master. It wasn't huge, but I could tell that I was braking faster, throwing the wheel around more easily, and the suspension was actually operating pretty well (at least on his version of the wheel). Just driveway testing, but it really shows how important even 5-7kg is (my Master weighs in at 42-43kg). The only complaint I had was that the wheel felt a bit underpowered - It was pedal-dipping (overleaning) on hard braking and accelerations when I shifted my weight. I could probably have gotten even more performance out of it if not for that, because I'd be willing to push the wheel harder. Try as I might, I can't pedal dip my Master unless traction is questionable (that being said, the additional weight of the master will also make it harder to decelerate/accelerate as strongly) I won't say I regret getting my Master, but I really enjoyed riding the S22. Just so responsive and easy to ride. I want to buy one now, but the lower top speed headroom, slider maintenance, lower maximum torque and waterproofing issues all deter me (plus the cost, but that goes without saying XD). Hopefully someone (including KS) makes another wheel in this weight class but with the above addressed.... Would be an epic EUC. ur right about weight. my s22's weigh 75 pounds, that and dropping the pedals and moving them forward and upgrading my first s22 from 3300w motor to 4000w, and that got me all i needed to get around my ranch. they really are my favorite surveillance vehicle because the v13's just take more physical dexterity to turn them, but in windy conditions, or carrying packages from the delivery point, the v13's are the best. i literally have no place on my 325 acres where i could ever hit 35mph, and live to tell about it. in the pastures, anything approaching 20mph and i'm skipping like a stone across a pond, which is fine until u veer off course and hit a bull hole. i have lots of sugar sand here, and i know that is terrible for "good" ball bearings, like the ceramic swiss in my inline skates, but these cheap sealed bearings aren't doing much if anything, the wear factor is the nylon material and only time will tell, but working on the s22 is a breeze. i have a path i ride now for surveillance and it makes a great test track for learning how suspensions on my wheels work. like my 80/90 michelin with stock 750 spring is better at slow speed, the 90/90 michelin with 900 spring is better for speed and these terrifying patches of sugar sand. it's like skimboarding at the beach. wider tire is better. weight with wheels and tire size is a big deal out here. i've got a lynx coming so it will be interesting to see how light i can make it and how big a tire i can fit on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) everybody calls the s22 fat, i have myself. but in reality it might only be an eighth of an inch thicker than the v13. and michelin 90/90 city grip 2 mounted width. just measured. the v13 is a whole 1/4" thinner. here's the v13 tire mounted. 90/80. Edited February 29 by novazeus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 my brand new wheel arrived today. jason at ewheels has a great deal on king song s22 pro's. u get a brand new s22 pro with the 4000w hh motor, which is working fine on my other wheel, and jason sends u a brand new 4000w gf motor if u want to replace it, and hou ningnings slider solution(although the suspension on this one is about perfect straight out of the box)and u get hou ningning's upgraded rear suspension hardware. and u get new charge ports although i just charged and it charged fine. jason's package on this s22 pro, esp if ur not a range whore, is the best bang for ur buck for euc's right now. it has the samsung 40t batteries. 1776wh. the tire actually looked pretty good. i had ordered the knobby, but didn't care because i knew i'd be ripping off the tire as soon as it arrived, but they sent the j863 instead. initially i was happy, because i kinda wanted to try this tire, but haha, what a pos. if u aren't a lightweight, this tire can't hold u and the wheel up. they don't just pull these numbers out of thin air. if ur experiencing wobbles with this tire, change the tire. it's loading is crap. sidewalls are paper thin and very prone to sidewall deflection oscillations. for comparison, the knobby is rated at 319 max loading. what this says is, if ur wheel weighs 75 pounds, and mine do stripped down, and u weigh 193 pounds geared up, ur overloaded, if u have 33psi in this tire. but knowing forum members, they are probably running it at 25psi, or 28psi, the magic number haha, 28 that marty prefers for all his tires. i'm looking for any tubeless street tire in 90/80 r14. michelin and pirelli makes one but can't find an online dealer. https://www.ewheels.com/product/king-song-s20-eagle/ non stainless steel cable cover that milled edge on the battery case can cut u, ask me how i know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 just talked to revzilla, and like i figured, all these places that sell tires, buy from one distributor, and can only sell what the distributor will sell them and they can't order any tire, just sell the ones on their website. maybe another country can ship one here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anutheroneup Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Speaking of tires, I'm wondering if I should change mine yet.. I have the OG S22 and have ridden the stock tire now until it looks like this I bought a Shinko 244 that is just sitting here waiting for when I'm ready to change the tire. But I want to get all I can out of the stock tire (as long as it's still safe) and the ride already feels nice to me now with the original tire that is broken in so well. Plus I'm a little nervous because I've never done a tire change before on any EUC since this S22 is my first EUC. Do you all recommend I keep riding this tire a bit longer or until the tread is gone, or go ahead and switch to the brand new Shinko now? For reference, the new Shinko tread looks like this in comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbhb Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, anutheroneup said: Do you all recommend I keep riding this tire a bit longer or until the tread is gone, or go ahead and switch to the brand new Shinko now? That OG tyre is already a long way past the point where I personally would have changed it! The profile is completely squared off, so, although you state that you're comfortable with how it handles, I would say it does not handle at all well in it's current state (especially off road). The Shinko 244 is a great dual sport tyre, with a huge reputation and much better turning characteristics. Please do yourself a huge favor, take the plunge and fit it asap! The S22 is not a difficult wheel to work on, if you follow some YouTube videos and take your time you should be fine. Good Luck. Edited March 2 by fbhb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 7 hours ago, anutheroneup said: Speaking of tires, I'm wondering if I should change mine yet.. I have the OG S22 and have ridden the stock tire now until it looks like this I bought a Shinko 244 that is just sitting here waiting for when I'm ready to change the tire. But I want to get all I can out of the stock tire (as long as it's still safe) and the ride already feels nice to me now with the original tire that is broken in so well. Plus I'm a little nervous because I've never done a tire change before on any EUC since this S22 is my first EUC. Do you all recommend I keep riding this tire a bit longer or until the tread is gone, or go ahead and switch to the brand new Shinko now? For reference, the new Shinko tread looks like this in comparison Yea mount the 244 asap, great all purpose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NErider Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Worst part of changing the tire is getting thermal paste on you. The 2nd worst is damaging the tube during reassembly. I've been lucky with that so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 55 minutes ago, NErider said: Worst part of changing the tire is getting thermal paste on you. The 2nd worst is damaging the tube during reassembly. I've been lucky with that so far. Get the tire hot in the sun first, put first half on by hand, insert tube flat with no air in it, push second half on by hand! When hot they are much easier, takes me 15min tops. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 5 hours ago, NErider said: Worst part of changing the tire is getting thermal paste on you. Why is thermal paste needed for a tyre change ?! Edited March 3 by Cerbera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 47 minutes ago, Cerbera said: Why is thermal paste needed for a tyre change ?! In the case of the S22/Pro, to do a tire change, the controller needs to be unscrewed from the frame, and the bottom of the controller housing is made to contact the alloy frame via thermal compound for better heat dissipation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 45 minutes ago, techyiam said: In the case of the S22/Pro, to do a tire change, the controller needs to be unscrewed from the frame, and the bottom of the controller housing is made to contact the alloy frame via thermal compound for better heat dissipation. I see ! They don't make it easy for you guys hey ? Edited March 3 by Cerbera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, Cerbera said: I see ! They don't make it easy for you guys hey ? Well, in reality, it isn't that bad. If I get some thermal paste on me, I just have to wipe it off. But one needs to be mindful. After working on it a few times, I don't even think about it anymore. Since the S22/Pro is so quite easy to service, I think it is a good trade-off. Although, the S22/Pro doesn't quite have the torque and top end performance of the Master, for someone who is OK with moderate motor performance, I think the S22 Pro makes a good city commuter, especially for those who ride strictly on bike paths, bike lanes, and secondary streets. IMO, to ride on main roads with the flow of car traffic, one needs a wheel at least of the Begode Master wheel-class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Yea if you want to do 40+, s22 is probably the wrong wheel. My EX30 is super capable of getting into the 50s, but I don't. Even got my free spin up to 82mph recently! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 44 minutes ago, Crab said: My EX30 is super capable of getting into the 50s, but I don't. Even got my free spin up to 82mph recently! For street use, what do you like about your EX30 over your S22 Pro, outside range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, techyiam said: For street use, what do you like about your EX30 over your S22 Pro, outside range? Even with the extra weight you don't notice it while riding, and soooo much more overhead I don't really worry about safety margin. Just added a DNM shock setup. Edited March 4 by Crab 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 anybody put a pirelli angel 80/80 r14 on a s22 yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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