Sim Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Should be getting my Sherman within the next month and it's got me thinking what they might do next. They've arguably conquered the street-wheel market, will their next effort be aimed at off-roading or simply keep improving on the Sherm? Has anyone heard anything about their plans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrRobot Posted September 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2020 There seems to be a large number of people wanting a "Sherman lite" so I'd imagine that might be their easiest way to add a new product the cheapest since they're still a new company. But yes once past that I am also just as curious as to what other ideas will come out of this company. Just glad to see some innovative design after gotway has released the 13th iteration of the same exact shell. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post null Posted September 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2020 Being a small / new company I suppose they will be iterating the Sherman for a while. 3D printing companies do a lot of Mk versions of their machines, often with the possibility to update parts to match the newest version. I nourish some sort of hope to see a controller reviewed from the ground up, as well as hollow bore motor for instance. Moulds for housing are expensive so the more they can milk the current one etc. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mango Posted September 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2020 I wouldn't mind a 24" 4,800wh, 15A max charging version of the Sherman. Weight isn't an issue for these long distance wheels. The Sherman is already nimble and easy to ride once your legs adjust. The Sherman is getting into motorcycle-class performance and nobody complains about the 700 lb average motorcycle weight. Things they can do to upgrade the current Sherman design would be to add USB ports, touchscreen and GPS for the screen and those new fangled hollow core motors. I can't think of anything else to improve upon the current design from a rider's perspective. From a servicing standpoint, I think easy access for tire changes and easier control board removal should be top priorities for the next Sherman revision. LED Lights and speaker connections could be optional accessories. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tor 77 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Any ideas or opinions how this wheel woud handle if it had suspension ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 @MrRobot A Sherman Lite would do extremely well. Something about a $1000-1500 mark would go like hit cakes. @null Yeah I can see iterations of the same designs would make sense in that factories don't have to re-tool etc. A part of me doesn't want to see that though as it smacks of Gotway like you say. These guys seem to be very deliberate in their design vision - reading what riders want, delivering it in a beautifully thought-out package and future-proofing it. The Sherman is going to be a stalwart for years to come and I can see them wanting the same for their next wheel. @Mango I guess if I were to design the perfect off-roading wheel(pure indulgence): Take the Sherman. Add suspension. Add a 3500W hollow motor from the upcoming EX, or even a 3000W if it exists(that should be plenty of power to get up those hills). Keep it's current battery size and the 18650 cells the same(trying to keep weight below 40kg). Shell design would have to change for the suspension, but keep that utilitarian look and round off those roll-bar corners that get in the way of decent off-roading ability. I'd like to see the Screen lifted off the wheel entirely tbh and onto a wristwatch-style platform(looking down while riding is no good for anyone's safety). Easy access for maintenance like you say, and I'd also add a quality leather seat as standard, giving the rider a chance to rest their legs when needed(give zoomwheels the contract). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekafuch Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I was just thinking a Sherman Lite. I like the frame they have going on but I don't need that price tag or the 3500W battery. Make it slighter cheaper than the V11 but with a larger battery around 2000WH and motor about 2600W. I guess it would be a MSP killer =P. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 @Kekafuchyeah there seems to be a pretty high demand for Sherman Lite. It'd do well for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zege Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I want a wheel that is a good combo to have together with the Sherman. Something like the mten3 or mcm5 but in a durable shell. They have to keep the bar of steel whatever they do, it is great for durability. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Bjerke Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 tire size 18x3" or more is prob the future, my guess is Sherm have a good thing going on, and the compition is busy shooting themselves in the foot. So why change a good thing ? Id love a suspension wheel - the V11 and KS s18 have many flaws. So Sherm should be aple to make a great product but why do it? They make good money now .. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothamMike Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 My ideas: Bluetooth USB A and C port GPS and a Kill switch Android based color display, customizable touchscreen, waterproof. kickstand 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiiijojjo Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) Honestly just change out the axle motor for a hollow bore and i'll buy one. This was pretty much the only factor that led me to buy an RS instead. As to what they might actually do or rather what business move i think would suit them best is to become the new gotway (minus the bad parts of course). I want for them to become the high performance brand in the euc world, with specs/reliability dwarfing gotway or any other company. Top level design, speed and durability they've already got. I would hate to see them go the gotway route of becoming the jack of all trades by having sub-versions of versions of models , i'd rather see them having a small, thought-out, line up of the best euc tech has to offer potentially releasing only 1 wheel per year or less to focus on making something at least close to perfection.. I want for them to wait with implementing solutions to for instance suspension until they have something that works brilliantly instead of rushing it out there. I want consistency in their designs - their sherman is the best designed and most robust wheel ever made + the roll bar makes it the most easily customizable and i would love to see this format/style become their hallmark. Anything less would be really disappointing to me. I understand why people want other things from this company like small battery models or lite version of the sherman and for many reasons that makes sense to a lot of people but personally i wouldn't want to see a sub 2000wh capacity from this company. I want them to claim their spot as the euc company that makes absolute tanks, not lightly armored vehicles or jeeps and in that vain it'd be cool to see them keep a tank naming scheme. Imagine a veteran tiger with 8000wh or a veteran p1000 ratte with 160000Kwh Edited February 21, 2021 by xiiijojjo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 On 9/9/2020 at 10:13 PM, Tor 77 said: Any ideas or opinions how this wheel woud handle if it had suspension ? Looking at what is on market choice right now. I doubt anyone can guess this until we see a solution. That said and how the GW and Veteran can to be (or split) I doubt suspension is on the table any time soon. To me they took a GW design and added 10%, and by that they took the niche top cost models away from GW. I would expect them to continue this trend like @null said above to get mold cost back. Branching out might not be (easy) to do for them right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Bjerke Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Is this product made of Gotway parts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I’d like to see a 24” version with at least 4800wh battery and speeds of over 90km. I find I hit 70km speed consistently and wish for a higher safety ceiling of at least 130km freespin speed. Range is acceptable in winter but I am spoiled for longer, more aggressive riding. No issues with “pedal dip” or unseated tires. I’d like to see dedicated daytime running lights and usb power ports for the next revision or upgraded model, but these can already be fairly easily modded on the Sherman. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 39 minutes ago, Mango said: I’d like to see a 24” version with at least 4800wh battery and speeds of over 90km. I find I hit 70km speed consistently and wish for a higher safety ceiling of at least 130km freespin speed. Range is acceptable in winter but I am spoiled for longer, more aggressive riding. No issues with “pedal dip” or unseated tires. I’d like to see dedicated daytime running lights and usb power ports for the next revision or upgraded model, but these can already be fairly easily modded on the Sherman. Love it! Go up not down. 👍 Imagine a Monster Pro-type thing but done by Veteran. It'd be done right, that's for sure. The main selling point for me on Veteran was the quality and reliability. Put that in a larger machine and you have one serious tourer on your hands. All it needs is a motor that will handle off-road like the MSP and you've got a massive winner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekafuch Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 21 hours ago, Sim said: Love it! Go up not down. 👍 Imagine a Monster Pro-type thing but done by Veteran. It'd be done right, that's for sure. The main selling point for me on Veteran was the quality and reliability. Put that in a larger machine and you have one serious tourer on your hands. All it needs is a motor that will handle off-road like the MSP and you've got a massive winner. Hmmm, a larger wheel with their existing shell would also solve the ground clearance issue and also the cage coming close to curbs. I definitely would be interested in a Vereran frame on a 22” wheel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Bjerke Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) I have been inside da Veteran factory with my droned cam, tis slaveworkers at the assembley libes making armed UFOs for the communist state. A 24" wheel EUC will fly away UFO style, if it ends in da water itll be a flying submarine - da communists will take over da planet with strange virus and swimming vehicles. They will stop @nuttin. The mold needs 2b paid 4. By U. When U jump on da veteran U will notice: NO susPENSION, No hollow motor rustbucketbearings. Tis very old design methinx, almost waterproof even not like gNotway? Da only vaxx against EUC fever is a broken leg noone knows how long itll last now let the bullies bully u and the Billies Bill u Edited January 6, 2021 by Finn Bjerke worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ben Kim Posted January 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2021 Veteran is working on two wheels: 16” wheel and a suspension wheel of unknown size. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Bjerke Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 37 minutes ago, Ben Kim said: Veteran is working on two wheels: 16” wheel and a suspension wheel of unknown size. wow where did you get this info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mango Posted January 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2021 I’m going to have pre-orders in for both new wheels if your info is true. Just absolutely love my Sherman. I am a raging Veteran fanboy at this point. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Bjerke Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) HI Mango Im having serious doubts about that wheel. I want range and speed and stability for sure. But I get the feeling its a wheel that lacks maneuverabilty, its a bit like a fast freight train (excuse the metaphore) If it wasnt for the bloody lockdown Id go and test it. Edited January 8, 2021 by Finn Bjerke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFZ Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 On 1/7/2021 at 4:43 PM, Ben Kim said: Veteran is working on two wheels: 16” wheel and a suspension wheel of unknown size. Original Plan, I was holding out for next Gen Sherman. Plan got destroyed when everyone got a Sherman. Getting mine Sunday. Who is LeaperKim? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, DragonFZ said: Who is LeaperKim? LeaperKim: company name Veteran: their brand for selling EUCs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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