Inmotion V13 Speculation

[Paul A]

1 hour ago, dangasaur said:

once Inmotion gets back from their holiday

 

Chinese New Year 2023 officially lasts for 15 days from Sunday, January 22 2023 to Sunday, February 5 2023. However, only the first seven days are considered a public holiday, from Sunday, January 22 to Sunday, January 29.

 

Chongqing- Chunyun, also known as the Chinese New Year Migration, Spring Festival Travel Rush, is the largest human migration on earth annually. Millions of people working or studying out of their hometowns will be hurrying home to reunite with families at this time.

[Josiah]

I thinks we’ve covered this topic here before.  Marty explains it well also. 

[Paul A]

9 hours ago, Rawnei said:

he's always the victim

 

 

[soulson]

19 hours ago, Kingsong Russia said:

I've done text/photo version of V13 teardow. Welcome:
https://ecodrift-ru.translate.goog/2023/01/17/inmotion-v13-challenger-razbiraem/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp

This is a phenomenal teardown. I learned so much, thank you!

[Forwardnbak]

my flow pads are here today, gee they are great!

Really nicely done.  

[Cerbera]

That machine is a real step up in terms of design and build hey - first impression is beyond impressive... everything is so immaculately conceived, refined and implemented. Even their potting is beautiful !

That really does feel like it justifies the price.

Even as a Begode fan, I can't quite imagine how they could lift their future game that far ! And yet they will presumably have to ! So yes, this is a very important step up / forward, and I hope it marks the beginning of a new, safer period for EUC evolution. This machine might be too heavy for me, and my Master will be loved until it dies, but Begode will have to work damn hard to make the wheel I get after that one of theirs, now I've seen how it could be done !! I suspect regulators are going to have work much harder than usual to to be able to rule these 'unsafe', so maybe it's a decent step towards legality / regulation as well...

Edited January 18, 2023 by Cerbera

[Taras]

2 hours ago, Cerbera said:

Begode will have to work damn hard to make the wheel I get after that one

Now after I saw and tried Shman-S, S22Pro, V13 I don't see any reason to try anything from Begode 

[Paul g]

20 minutes ago, Kingsong Russia said:

Now after I saw and tried Shman-S, S22Pro, V13 I don't see any reason to try anything from Begode 

Yeah, wait and see how all the other producers make the new 135V wheel lines and Begode comes with the new 150V wheels with the plastic battery packs dangling on one side and the other and going 125kmph/77mph and everybody madly running to buy them  🤣🤣🤣

[Cerbera]

1 hour ago, Paul g said:

Yeah, wait and see how all the other producers make the new 135V wheel lines and Begode comes with the new 150V wheels with the plastic battery packs dangling on one side and the other and going 125kmph/77mph and everybody madly running to buy them  🤣🤣🤣

I'm waiting for Begode Amateur Rocketry division  First EUC to Mach 3.

[Paul g]

23 hours ago, Rawnei said:

Thanks 🙏

Build quality looks great, they set the bar here, very professional.

Now they just need the same concept but at least 10kg lighter (preferably even more so) and I'm in, 2200Wh version maybe? But perhaps need to save weight in more places for that.

   I don’t mind if the V13 ( or V12) is a little bit heavier compared with similar wheels as I fully understand that this is the trade off for quality and safety, and these two qualities are very important for me. Therefore I don’t have a reason to ask InMotion to cut weight by cutting safety. Whenever I hear people berating InMotion for heaviness, like in the case of V12 compared with similar wheels of same diameter and battery size, I actually think they don’t make the link between safety design and weight, or they’re actually searching for a Begode wheel and they don’t know it.

5 hours ago, Josiah said:

https://youtu.be/WwsJ7aXfSUI

I thinks we’ve covered this topic here before.  Marty explains it well also. 

    Marty is asking for more voltage. Curious 🧐 . He also doesn’t seem to understand that InMotion following the battery producers advice about max voltage is also a measure of responsibility and safety measure from InMotion - Thank you @Inmotion Global! 🙏 🙂

    Less range is a trade off for safety. I would definitely prefer to be safe than to have few km/mi more added to my range. Or maybe someone likes his/her/their house/family/garage on fire??? 🤔

     Everybody complains that the wheels are not safe and they catch fire, everybody complains that the wheels are not quality build, then why criticise InMotion for giving you just that???

     If you want a lighter wheel then buy a Begode, please!! Then spend an other $,€,£ 1000 for fairings that weigh 7kg and still not have it properly protected or safe. And also weighing a lot more that initially in paper specs. Here you have it!

[Cerbera]

Yeah, I too will put up with a lot more weight for the extra ruggedness and safety. But I would appreciate one a bit smaller with slightly less power and range and price.

Sort of as T4 is to Master....

[Paul g]

2 minutes ago, Cerbera said:

Yeah, I too will put up with a lot more weight for the extra ruggedness and safety. But I would appreciate one a bit smaller with slightly less power and range and price.

Sort of as T4 is to Master....

     I think they choose the wrong dimension of tire for V13. I think a 20’ would’ve been just fine for the speed and range it has and it would had a lot less weight.

[Paul A]

16 minutes ago, Paul g said:

they’re actually searching for a Begode wheel and they don’t know it

 

[Paul A]

On 1/14/2023 at 1:27 PM, novazeus said:

i will have three pretty wheels. maybe not the best wheels, but very pretty. should get the girls!

 

[Taras]

2 hours ago, Paul g said:

and going 125kmph

insane. I don't want to ride so fast. I still in love w/ S18 and 45 kmph max speed I set. I rode 60+ on new heavy wheels (master, shaman-s).. But it has so long over distance when brake. 

[Ronin]

 

[Funky]

4 hours ago, Paul g said:

Yeah, wait and see how all the other producers make the new 135V wheel lines and Begode comes with the new 150V wheels with the plastic battery packs dangling on one side and the other and going 125kmph/77mph and everybody madly running to buy them  🤣🤣🤣

All jokes aside.. I see that happening and that makes me sad.. We need new wheels in 30-60 lbs mark.   

[Funky]

On 1/17/2023 at 12:38 PM, Rawnei said:

Thanks 🙏

Build quality looks great, they set the bar here, very professional.

Now they just need the same concept but at least 10kg lighter (preferably even more so) and I'm in, 2200Wh version maybe? But perhaps need to save weight in more places for that.

Make that more like ~25kg lighter..   43kg still heavy ass wheel.  Makes little to no difference 53 or 43 kg in my mind.

I would love to have V13, but in miniature form factor, around 25-30Kg. <3

Edited January 18, 2023 by Funky

[Rawnei]

10 minutes ago, Funky said:

Make that more like ~25kg lighter..   43kg still heavy ass wheel.  Makes little to no difference 53 or 43 kg in my mind.

Oh it's a huge difference trust me, after 40kg each kg will a big OUF, that's my magic number no more than 40.

[Funky]

10 minutes ago, Rawnei said:

Oh it's a huge difference trust me, after 40kg each kg will a big OUF, that's my magic number no more than 40.

Each their own.. My magic number is ~30kg. Mostly because i don't need speed/range. That's why it's 30kg. Doh yeah i could carry 40kg somewhat easy.. But i simply don't need that.  That's why i would love to have mini V13 in 30kg range.

In my mind anything over 30kg be 40 or 70. You will need somewhat use both hands to carry it. So overall you ease of carrying it around, etc goes away over 30kg.. That's why i said it makes zero difference in my mind 43 vs 53.  

I personally could carry ~45kg one handed. (I tried some tests, also tried carrying bigger wheels in shop, before buying my 18xl..) It wasn't pleasant, but i could do it. I will take lighter wheel over speed/range anyday..

Edited January 18, 2023 by Funky

[DragonFZ]

1 hour ago, Funky said:

Each their own.. My magic number is ~30kg. Mostly because i don't need speed/range. That's why it's 30kg. Doh yeah i could carry 40kg somewhat easy.. But i simply don't need that.  That's why i would love to have mini V13 in 30kg range.

In my mind anything over 30kg be 40 or 70. You will need somewhat use both hands to carry it. So overall you ease of carrying it around, etc goes away over 30kg.. That's why i said it makes zero difference in my mind 43 vs 53.  

I personally could carry ~45kg one handed. (I tried some tests, also tried carrying bigger wheels in shop, before buying my 18xl..) It wasn't pleasant, but i could do it. I will take lighter wheel over speed/range anyday..

It only took one year for my OG Sherman from being "OMG 77 lbs that's a freaking heavy wheel" to top of the light wheel category. LOL

[meepmeepmayer]

11 hours ago, Josiah said:

I thinks we’ve covered this topic here before.  Marty explains it well also. 

Just learned about this.

That's a bit lame. Did Inmotion go with the wrong battery supplier, where you aren't even supposed to charge the cells fully? Are they just more careful and this applies to all cells? What about cell balancing, is it guaranteed?

Plus even a little extra range loss on a (fast!) wheel that needs all the battery it can get

[novazeus]

4 hours ago, Kingsong Russia said:

insane. I don't want to ride so fast. I still in love w/ S18 and 45 kmph max speed I set. I rode 60+ on new heavy wheels (master, shaman-s).. But it has so long over distance when brake. 

i look at wheels like clubs in a golf bag, ur allowed 14 and they're all different tools for different situations. 

a great, safe putter is all i need right now.

[Paul A]

Marty video, PSA for V13.

 

All charging stops when one cell reaches 4.185 volts.

Best case, if all cells are 4.185..........30 * 4.185 = 125.55 volts........not 126 volts.

Marty has only observed 123-124 volts.

 

Maybe this is why the range of the V13 is low?

It does not fully charge.

[techyiam]

I think all flagship wheels should have 3600+ Wh battery packs. For advanced riders, the additional weight would not be a hindrance after the adjustment period, anyway.

Regarding not changing to full voltage, it doesn't bother me if the cells still get balanced. If it is for safety reasons, I am on board.