GoGeorgeGo Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 18 hours ago, supercurio said: I asked him directly a few things earlier so I can add some info here: Roger EUC tried the GODMOD on his unmodified Master, in soft, medium and hard mode. He could not feel or find a difference in riding behavior in any of the pedal mode on that wheel, and despite being a competitive racer he opted for removing it. By the way a month ago he competed against another racer who's very vocal in his praise of the same accessory, and often referred to by Declan in his testimonials. Well, he beat him every time in the race already, and this other racer still had a crash / overlean (the story says that it was when the accessory got somehow disconnected) So yes, Roger identifying no difference despite his extensive testing, and knowledge of PID tuning is valid feedback. Let's not discard it somehow. it disconnected randomly while riding? an xt connector? not during the crash? i find that hard to believe. if so i need to go and tape/silicone all my xt connections together 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robse Posted March 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, GoGeorgeGo said: it disconnected randomly while riding? an xt connector? not during the crash? i find that hard to believe. if so i need to go and tape/silicone all my xt connections together Of course it disconnected - all by itself - there is no other answer , and that's because it works , and when not, the fault is to blame on something else. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Picture of an xt connector. Is it likely that an xt connector could disconnect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rawnei Posted March 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2023 Maybe it was god's will. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robse Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Paul A said: Picture of an xt connector. Is it likely that an xt connector could disconnect? I would say "no" - unless it wasn't properly connected.... but then i would not work, and we all know now, that it works, unless not - and since every of the 15 ingredients are of the highest and best quality, hand picked.. there must be some external energy at play. The force is weak in this one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rcgldr Posted March 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2023 I don't understand how adding more capacitance than stock is going to help. Any activity that drains the capacitors will require the batteries to recharge the capacitors in addition to driving the motor and other electronics. The capacitors are there to deal with relatively short duration spikes in current draw, not a longer term event like accelerating from 10 kph to 40 kph or so. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bizra6ot Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 I just saw Ustride's video and besides the fact that he asks the right questions, I found it funny that SenseiVegan tries to do everything to avoid the simple test Ustride asked for Also that he believes in it and mentions the fact that a user has claimed that he can feel the mod charging and discharging, really lol? 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daniel1234 Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 I saw on the internet that GOD+MOD works better in India since they have more of them. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercurio Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, GoGeorgeGo said: it disconnected randomly while riding? an xt connector? not during the crash? i find that hard to believe. if so i need to go and tape/silicone all my xt connections together I'm sorry I can't give much more accurate information on this story, I don't get either how it could get disconnected. Edited March 13, 2023 by supercurio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UPONIT Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) Just now saw this thread. Not reading 17 pages because UN Convention Against Torture. Forgive if any of this has been said. 1. A three hour video of Napoleon Dynamite's brother in a lab coat trying to sell a monorail to the town of Springfield? Pass. 2. To quote PT Barnum and Bernie Madoff and that CryptoCurrency Incel who doesn't own a mirror: "There's a sucker born every minute." 3. If this simple device actually provided a benefit worth more than the paltry cost of its components, the manufacturers would add it to EUCs themselves. Does anyone think that in a niche, competitive market like EUCs, a company is gonna just leave cheap, "untapped" potential on the table for Kip Dynamite to profit off of? 4. Did anyone find the submitted patent application that must exist in order for a patent to be "pending?" It would be publicly available and take way less than 3 hours to read... Edited March 13, 2023 by UPONIT simpsons 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, UPONIT said: Did anyone find the submitted patent application Perhaps contact God Mod via their web page. https://www.godmod.us/support Edited March 13, 2023 by Paul A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meriwald Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanman Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) Maybe he should go for copyrights instead since this seems to be more of a creative work. On the supposed disconnection, power still has to be passed through the black box right? The caps are in parallel but the board now connects to one end of the box and the battery packs to the other? This does add some new failure points, bad soldering or otherwise. Edited March 13, 2023 by chanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, UPONIT said: 4. Did anyone find the submitted patent application that must exist in order for a patent to be "pending?" It would be publicly available and take way less than 3 hours to read... To find a pending application all you need is at least one of the inventor's real names and it helps to know their city or state. The US Patent and Trademark Office has a very nice search capability on their website. The USPTO expects that "patent pending" is used in good faith (meaning, at least a provisional application has truly been filed) and can levy a 500USD fine for false marketing, but try getting that one enforced! Edited March 13, 2023 by Tawpie 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 So what is Declan's full name? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, Paul A said: So what is Declan's full name? I have no idea but wouldn't dox him either way! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robse Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 if i ask guggle, the first hit is Elvis Castello. hmnn... could be because of the good mood in his music? nah, it's not that guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 https://www.upcounsel.com/patent-pending-cost What Are Patent Pending Costs? The cost to get patent pending status for your invention is around $1,500 without an attorney. If you hire an attorney, you can expect to pay $10,000 or more for a utility patent and $2,000 for a design patent. It's hard to determine the exact costs before you apply because all patent applications are different. Obtaining a patent is expensive and time-consuming. Patent pending costs vary widely. This makes it difficult to predict what you'll have to pay. A lot depends on the complexity of your invention and the type of patent application you want to file. A patent attorney can review your situation and give you a better idea of how much you can expect to pay. As soon as your patent application is submitted to the USPTO, you can write, "Patent Pending," on your product. This status typically lasts for one to three years. Once a patent is issued for your invention, you can replace the patent pending phrasing with your patent number. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercurio Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, meriwald said: We've seen GodMod being promoted almost primarily with memes, including its creator Meme-fying himself. If you really read that one, it does look like it's just another of its meme based promotion material. "Helps with peak loads" is the key unproven claim. How many of you guys didn't notice and just saw a funny meme? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanman Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) I read it as satire, I mean the Columbus thing and the magic pixie dust seemed pretty clear cut to me. We've been adding capacitors to electric motors for decades to help in get them started (a peak load). A less informed person could just see the image as promotional material though. Edited March 13, 2023 by chanman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbb Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Tawpie said: The USPTO expects that "patent pending" is used in good faith Prediction: It hasn't been filed, since even a simple search for prior art would reveal his "invention" to be nothing more than a high pass filter in front of an existing set of voice coils that push against a set of fixed magnets. Some of you will recognize what that means, and even looks like on the output. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robse Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, sbb said: Prediction: It hasn't been filed, since even a simple search for prior art would reveal his "invention" to be nothing more than a high pass filter in front of an existing set of voice coils that push against a set of fixed magnets. Some of you will recognize what that means, and even looks like on the output. well well - my 16X has a subwoofer (so it says), maybe that gizmo could add a little more clarity to the treble? hmmn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Tawpie said: 500USD fine for false marketing Cheaper to pay the fine, if a false claim is ever detected and enforced.......than to actually make a patent pending application ($1500). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robse Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Paul A said: Cheaper to pay the fine, if a false claim is ever detected and enforced.......than to actually make a patent pending application ($1500). That's only one unit sold. Cost's $100 and the rest is "fine". Calculated risk. Business as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Robse said: Calculated risk. Business as usual. Perhaps there is actually more bite to the penalty. https://www.mclane.com/insights/beware-improper-patent-marking-could-be-costly/ Beware: Improper Patent Marking Could Be Costly Jeremy T. Walker Director, Litigation Department Published: New Hampshire Business Review July 25, 2010 The law is referred to as a qui tam law because anyone can file a claim for false patent marking, and any fines recovered are split between the successful plaintiff and the federal government. Despite these sound policies against false patent marking, the false marking law historically has had little bite. That is because earlier court decisions interpreted the statutory fine as $500 for each decision to falsely mark a product. Thus, if a company decided to falsely mark a product, and one million articles of that product were improperly marked, it would only be subject to a fine of up to $500 for that one decision. This gave little incentive for plaintiffs to bring qui tam lawsuits against false markers. But that changed with a December 2009 decision issued by the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals, which is the court that decides much of the law governing patents in the United States. In Forest Group, Inc. v. Bon Tool Co., the court reversed prior precedent and held that the up-to-$500 fine in the statute applied to each article falsely marked. So if a company decides to mark one million articles improperly, the company would be subject to a fine of up to $500 million. It is no surprise that already in 2010 there have been a flurry of qui tam lawsuits brought for false marking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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