Funky Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) If i was Putler i would be already mad at NATO as they are providing weapons and "help" to Ukraine.. BECAUSE they already are helping. Doh. So in my mind it's already past that.. I would start seriously thinking NATO as whole as enemy now. Now we can just hope that Putler don't start nuking. And his "inner circle" don't let him do that. Don't NATO have some kind of device for destroying any nuclear rocket launched from Russia? I bet many satellites are monitoring their rocket bases. And are ready to counter attack? Meaning if Putler start nuking the rockets would not pass the Russian boarders. He would simply nuke his country??? It amazes me that no one from his "inner circle" have slaughter that mad man.. I bet his whole team are the same... Edited March 1, 2022 by Funky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 32 minutes ago, level9 said: As you can see.. it's an extraordinarily very fine line we must walk here... one slip-up and we're all dead. Those practicing ATGATT neednt worry tho, right? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Seems unrealistic to think that Putin would want to attack Poland. Europe is already united in supporting Ukraine. Ukraine has not been abandoned and left to capitulate on its own by Europe. It seems unlikely that an attack on Poland would then not result in the entire combined force of Europe to respond. It seems unlikely that Putin would want to fight the entire combined force of Europe. Germany is the leader of Europe. Their economy alone is more than twice that of Russia's. The recent change in stance of the Germans has been profound. The German's decision to halt certification of Nordstream 2, the decision to not remain pacifists, to allow other countries to release German manufactured weapons, to cut Russia off from SWIFT......their leadership has precipitated the European response. There might be constraints to Putin's authority to launch nuclear weapons, by others in the Russian elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fahrtwind Posted March 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2022 I feel so sorry about this war and everyone who is involved. (hmm, the whole world?) We needed 75 years to trust the peace in europe, to disarm and use the saved money for more important things than weapons. One single human beeing was able to destroy the dream of a peacefull coexistence, a great community to solve more important problems of the world. Climate change, covid, hunger, the list is long. This agressive act throws us back for tens of years. I am sorry for my and all the other children. What a perspective of the future do they have? They are loosing their livelihood. Some areas of the world will be uninhabitable due to the climate change in the next years. The last thing we need are megalomaniac leader that make the same errors like our ancestors and make areas uninhabitable caused by war. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeforester Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Paul A said: manufactured weapons, to cut Russia off from SWIFT......their leadership has precipitated the European response. Hardly, they had to be cajoled into the cessation of SWIFT following Italian leader Draghi’s direct intervention, Italy had opposed the SWIFT ejection also, but once they decided to go that way, Germany was effectively the odd man out, barring Luxembourg. https://unherd.com/2022/02/vladimir-putins-reckless-gamble/?=thepostindexfrmemail Edited March 1, 2022 by Freeforester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
level9 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Yeah... too risky for escalation... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Corroboration from https://www.newsweek.com/eu-ukraine-fighter-jet-promise-falling-apart-russia-advances-slovakia-poland-bulgaria-1683588 By David Brennan On 3/1/22 at 6:51 AM EST EU's Ukraine Fighter Jet Promise Falling Apart as Russia Advances The European Union's promise to arm Ukraine with fighter jets to help fight the Russian invasion was seemingly falling apart as of Tuesday morning, with all three nations touted as contributors denying they would be involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/01/russia-ukraine-war-putin-news/#link-YCEKSLJ7Y5GXDCK5PPECL2JJ74 40-mile-long column of Russian combat vehicles ‘stalled’ north of Kyiv, Pentagon says Return to menu By Daniel Lamothe12:10 p.m. A 40-mile-long column of Russian tanks and combat vehicles has “stalled” north of Kyiv, a senior U.S. defense official said Tuesday. The Russians appeared to be regrouping six days into their invasion of Ukraine while dealing with fierce resistance and fuel and food shortages. The column effectively has not moved in a day, putting it about 30 kilometers north of the capital’s city center. About 80 percent of the combat power that Russia prestaged at the Ukrainian border is now committed to the war, up from just under 75 percent Monday, and the Russians are shelling Kyiv, the senior defense official said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Paul A said: The column effectively has not moved in a day This is why you want air superiority. The column is a literal sitting duck. It really raises the question: could the military planning have been this bad or is there something else going on? I am hoping for the latter. Edited March 1, 2022 by Tawpie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
level9 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tawpie said: This is why you want air superiority. The column is a sitting duck. It really raises the question: could the military planning have been this bad or is there something else going on? They're currently 'softening up the target' with air strikes in order to take out telecommunications. That should create some disarray before the final push. My guess is at this point they are waiting for the "ceasefire" talks which are tomorrow while flexing their muscles.. or in other words, Russia would like to discuss the terms of Ukraine's surrender and I wouldn't put it past them to attack while using the talks as a distraction either... you simply can't trust these guys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 I'm hoping the Generals are starting to push back on their President. In the end, the military has the only power that matters... they go along with the President, or they don't. Either way, it's not good when the situation devolves to "what does the army think". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/01/12/ukraines-giant-howitzers-have-a-problem-russias-own-huge-guns-are-faster/ Ukraine does have artillery (Russian howitzers) capable of 30 miles range, to attack the column, destroy the road, create blockage. https://odessa-journal.com/russian-short-service-marine-conscripts-staged-a-riot/ Russian young marine conscripts staged a riot against landing in Odessa. Live updates at https://www.ukrinform.net/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3417480-enemy-column-destroyed-in-mykolaiv-region-consisted-of-800-vehicles.html Enemy column destroyed in Mykolaiv Region consisted of 800 vehicles 02.03.2022 00:43 The column was attacked from the air; the occupiers were hit hard,” the report states. Mykolaiv Regional Military Administration Head Vitalii Kim noted on Telegram that, during this operation, the Ukrainian military lost just one helicopter, and its pilots managed to survive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3417430-captured-russian-soldier-tells-of-inhuman-treatment-in-russian-army-sbu.html Captured Russian soldier tells of inhuman treatment in Russian army - SBU 01.03.2022 23:45 The SBU press service broke the news via Telegram, Ukrinform reports. "The captured Russian occupier tells about the atrocities in his army – officers kill their wounded soldiers, leave their dead on the battlefield, and never notify relatives," said the SBU. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3417524-in-sumy-region-ukrainian-army-destroyed-about-80-units-of-enemy-equipment-using-bayraktar.html In the evening of March 1, the Ukrainian army with the help of a Bayraktar drone neutralized about 80 units of enemy equipment, half of which were Grad MLRS. Grad MLRS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paul A Posted March 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2022 World's Biggest Shipping Groups Suspend Russian Deliveries Boeing suspends parts and maintenance support for Russian airlines World Bank preparing $3B support package for Ukraine Apple Says 'Paused' All Product Sales in Russia _____________ The list of worldwide united responses goes on and will probably keep going on indefinitely.... Not just governments but multinational corporations. Russia may or may not win the battle, but seems certain to lose the war in the aftermath. Putin might possibly be deposed by the Russian elite in due course. This whole tragic saga may possibly be a blueprint of world response that will deter and end major conflicts. Hopefully it will deter China from aspirations of ever invading Taiwan. China cannot fire missiles at: shipping companies that refuse to provide services manufacturers that refuse to supply repairs/parts SWIFT for cutting off access etc... Worldwide, united, non-military actions/sanctions might be more effective. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3417662-russia-has-no-more-control-over-its-spysattelites.html The Control Center of the Russian Space Agency Roskosmos has no more control over its spy-sattelites. “Hacking group NB65, affiliated with Anonymous, has shut down the Control Center of the Russian Space Agency ‘Roskosmos’. Russia has no more control over their own spy-sattelites,” reads a message on Telegram channel of the latest information from Ukraine’s Armed Forces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
level9 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) The Russians are pretty much starting to level the place. And they're dropping the big stuff now (verified on CNN here). Best guess is a thermobaric bomb with a conventional yield probably around the same as a small tactical nuke. Nasty stuff... Edited March 2, 2022 by level9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/mysterious-case-missing-russian-air-force The Mysterious Case of the Missing Russian Air Force Justin Bronk 28 February 2022 7 Minute Read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3418115-ukraine-army-destroys-russian-command-post-near-chornobyl-npp.html The Armed Forces of Ukraine have destroyed a Russian command post in the village of Dityatky near Chornobyl. "The Armed Forces destroyed the orcs’ command post in the village of Dytiatky near Chornobyl. The Chief of Staff of the 36th Army of Russia’s Eastern Military District, Major General Sergei Nirkov, fled to Belarus. He left his men behind to be annihilated by our Army," the statement reads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3418184-kuleba-we-have-progress-in-talks-about-fighter-aircrafts-but-cannot-wait-for-weeks.html Wednesday, 02 March 2022, 18:21 Ukraine has made some progress in talks with EU countries regarding the supply of fighter aircrafts to combat the Russian invasion but insists that relevant decisions be endorsed as soon as possible. The relevant statement was made by Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba during an online briefing, an Ukrinform correspondent reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
level9 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Paul A said: The Armed Forces of Ukraine have destroyed a Russian command post in the village of Dityatky near Chornobyl. "The Armed Forces destroyed the orcs’ command post in the village of Dytiatky near Chornobyl. The Chief of Staff of the 36th Army of Russia’s Eastern Military District, Major General Sergei Nirkov, fled to Belarus. He left his men behind to be annihilated by our Army," the statement reads. hrmmm. That's pretty deep behind enemy lines. According to Russian-controlled areas marked on the maps I've seen the Ukrainian army is nowhere around there. Maybe special ops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Chornobyl to Kyiv approximately 134 km. Special ops would seem likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
level9 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 The US Pentagon in a recent news brief indicated (without confirmation or details) they believe Ukraine has managed to disrupt/slow the convoy. So... they must be running some special ops and/or selective drone strikes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Lack of Russian convoy progress might be due to following article. Time delays would also create logistical problems. Especially for food and fuel consumed. Supply lines might not be secured. https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3418368-russians-have-no-control-of-significant-part-of-territory-through-which-they-advanced.html 02.03.2022 21:28 Russians have no control of significant part of territory through which they advanced Russian troops do not control the rear and much of the territory they have advanced through in Ukraine. That’s according to the Center for Combating Disinformation, Ukrinform reports. "The Russians do not control the rear and much of the territory they have advanced through. Don’t post maps showing that they have allegedly occupied vast areas," the statement said. In particular, the Center for Countering Disinformation cites as an example a real map as of March 1 and a fake one used by propagandists. As Ukrinform reported earlier, today, March 2, in Luhansk direction, Ukrainian defenders are fighting hard against the Russian invaders and are firmly holding their ground. The mixed convoy of the enemy military hardware was destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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