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Since it is easy to find cheap converters from 12v to ...whatever until 80v or more, and two amps, we can charge the ninebot in our car.

The only trouble that I can see, is how to find a connector to put into the charge port of our ninebot.

Anyone knows which kind of connector is, or where can we buy it?

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Converter inverter same thing in layman's language. 120v for US, 220v for UK.

I'm a great believer in the "keep it simple stupid" method. Even though I am quite aware that there is a huge loss in efficiency with the double conversion rather than a direct conversion from 12v to 67v. You would still need to control the input so that charging stops once the battery is full.

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Converter inverter same thing in layman's language. 120v for US, 220v for UK.

I'm a great believer in the "keep it simple stupid" method. Even though I am quite aware that there is a huge loss in efficiency with the double conversion rather than a direct conversion from 12v to 67v. You would still need to control the input so that charging stops once the battery is full.

I would be wrong, but I believe that our charger is not more than a AC-DC voltage converter, not a real charger. Nothing to stop when battery is full, but a led light to let you know when there are current going into the ninebot or not. The BMS into the battery would do all the related tasks about charging, stopping the charge, and balancing cells.

Not sure about this, Only what I believe. But if true, I prefer not to carry the original power supply since I do not know when will be necesary at the car. Only personal preference. I prefer to have two, one at car and one at home. And a DC-DC circuit for the car will be a lot cheaper than a new original power supply and a DC-AC converter.

Anyway, I also believe in your "keep it simple stupid" method. Have a lot of sense.

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A lot of it is cost. An inverter can be bought very cheaply and even if you choose to get a second euc charger they are very cheap as well.

As 12v to 67v converters aren't in general use as far as I know you would either have to rig one up yourself or get one made which is likely to be far more expensive.

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Charger: 182€ http://www.speedyfeet.uk/Charger-Unit-block-Ninebot-ONE-p/ninebot-one-charger.htm

DC-AC 150W min. converter: I do not know....may be 10€?

Versus:

DC-DC Converter for 10€http://www.ebay.com/itm/291464169057?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

But where to find the ninebot one port plug?

 

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But where to find the ninebot one port plug?

AFAIK, it's a Lemo-plug, but don't know the size:   http://www.lemo.com/en

Hi, isn't it that one: 4 pin connector ?

At least that looks like the right kind, but there are varying sizes of Lemo's, so probably would need to double-check the dimensions. And of course polarity from the old plug ;)

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AFAIK, it's a Lemo-plug, but don't know the size:   http://www.lemo.com/en

 

At least that looks like the right kind, but there are varying sizes of Lemo's, so probably would need to double-check the dimensions. And of course polarity from the old plug ;)

 

Great!!!

It appears to be the 1P series.

I will check the catalog with the dimensions and types, and I will put the reference to public knowledge, for DIY or just to substitute the original in case of a breaking it.

Thank you very much.

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I had a 2011 VW Passat Stationwagon and it came with a standard wall plug on the rear seat as well as another one in the trunk to charge laptops or power electric coolingboxes.

I am not familiar with electricity stuff, would this not charge the EUC or very slow?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003Q54V88/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B003Q54V88

 

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I had a 2011 VW Passat Stationwagon and it came with a standard wall plug on the rear seat as well as another one in the trunk to charge laptops or power electric coolingboxes.

I am not familiar with electricity stuff, would this not charge the EUC or very slow?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003Q54V88/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B003Q54V88

 

I would say NO.

it is 75w power inverter. The ninebot charger will need 120w or so.

I have tried a 100w power inverter and did not work at all.

You will need 150w at least. May be 200w in order to have an extra safety margin.

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There are lots of different models that will not fit.

Please, let me check the right model number.

The right plug part number is PAG.M0.4GL.ACnnc, where nn is cable maximum diameter in milimeters (one decimal digit), and c is the color.

nn: 20, 39, 52 or 65 (6.5mm max)

If you want a bend relief, then add Z at the end of the part number.

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From my experience the cheap invertors don't work very well with chargers, you need a more expensive one with true sine wave. My ebike 48V 12A LIFEPO4  battery charger draws

about 300W.

I believe that our charger is a switched power supply, so must have a full rectifier bridge and capacitors to get DC voltage at the first stage. I do not see any problem with square wave (like in cheap power inverters) In that input stage.

Anyway, a true sine wave will be better, since all the electronics quality will be improved too in this more expensive converters, and not only the waveform.

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