King Song S22 suspension settings

[meepmeepmayer]

King Song electrical engineers being surprised by the existence of electrical interference... time truly is a flat circle

[Tawpie]

The might have a chat with LK and IM… about grocery stores and locomotives 

 

[novazeus]

using @Tawpiesuggestion, i cleaned the channel best i could then squirted a tiny bit of wd-40 in there. while the wheel was upside down.

just that made a world of difference.

king song must be shipping these with slider glue.

now i’ll get jiggy and do the top. had to lose my yoga mat.

[dredwheel]

1 hour ago, novazeus said:

using @Tawpiesuggestion, i cleaned the channel best i could then squirted a tiny bit of wd-40 in there. while the wheel was upside down.

just that made a world of difference.

king song must be shipping these with slider glue.

now i’ll get jiggy and do the top. had to lose my yoga mat.

That's awesome. I'm not even sure what the channel is haha. I've worked on zero vehicles/electronics other than building PCs. Is there a youtube video or picture guide for the complete neophyte?

[Paul A]

19 minutes ago, dredwheel said:

Is there a youtube video

 

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S22 with CNC Slider Kit - Amazing difference. Final Assembly and power up.

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[novazeus]

put the wheel on a stand and the sliders go to the bottom and u can clean the top of the channel, best u can. i used gun bore qtips. i put some paper towels on my wooden stand and squirted the wd-40 in the channels and they drain to the paper towels. wd-40 is a good cleaner.

put it upside down on it's head and u can clean the bottom channels. i just cleaned the best i could and i figured the wd-40 would break down the cosmolene that king song evidently used for grease.  and it did. might not be perfect, but omg, so much better. almost as good as the s18.

and since i tore up my yoga mat getting it off i decided to put on the stock pads. i figure they'd help protect it if i dropped it.  i'll put the seat on too for the same reason.

tmrw is gonna be nice so i'll be putting some miles on.

[dredwheel]

10 minutes ago, novazeus said:

 

tmrw is gonna be nice so i'll be putting some miles on.

me and you both, brother. i appreciate the tips. I think I can give this a shot! looking forward to seeing more of the s22's full potential.

[novazeus]

btw, not suspension settings but i did play with the tail light settings and they work in the king song app. i guess there is no speaker because voice and music does nothing.

i didn't think i'd like the tire but it's fine with me. if i get a "pro" version i'll opt for their street tire. s22 for pasture, covered in cow shit, and a s22 "pro" when i visit the outlet mall next door. 

on a side note, the s18 is sure easier to handle in the hangar. 75 pounds is my limit.

[novazeus]

http://DuPont Non-Stick Dry-Film Lubricant Aerosol, 10 oz https://a.co/d/dJx2spethis looks interesting and the price is right. anybody try this on the sliders?

i ordered some of this too.

http://WD-40 Specialist Dry Lube with SMART STRAW SPRAYS 2 WAYS, 10 OZ https://a.co/d/dPXG7Y3

Edited December 27, 2022 by novazeus

[Tawpie]

2 hours ago, novazeus said:

http://DuPont Non-Stick Dry-Film Lubricant Aerosol, 10 oz https://a.co/d/dJx2spethis looks interesting and the price is right. anybody try this on the sliders?

i ordered some of this too.

http://WD-40 Specialist Dry Lube with SMART STRAW SPRAYS 2 WAYS, 10 OZ https://a.co/d/dPXG7Y3

I use 3M 08897. No squeaking (PTFE evidently squeaks after a couple of days). So far quite pleased, but haven't tried anything else.

[novazeus]

25 minutes ago, Tawpie said:

I use 3M 08897. No squeaking (PTFE evidently squeaks after a couple of days). So far quite pleased, but haven't tried anything else.

i jist ordered some. 

[mrelwood]

Moved the posts on the new S22 Pro to their own thread:

 

[dredwheel]

I didn't know what I was missing until the wd40\lube treatment. It took a few sessions before it 'unlocked', but WOAH. Unfortunately, it seems to be a temporary solution. It's stiffened back up again slightly. I can't wait to get some new CNC sliders from KS official or myewheels. 

Actually just sold my v10f. Great wheel, but suspension is a whole other beast. I was thinking about getting another wheel, but now I'm thinking I may just get the fairings set from Clark and work on upgrading the S22. 

I hit an insanely deep dip in the road. It would have 100% tossed me off of my v10f. S22 took it with no probs. The more I ride, the more I feel suspension is a safety feature and not just a comfort feature. 

[Tawpie]

9 hours ago, dredwheel said:

It's stiffened back up again slightly.

Rinse it out some more with acetone or WD40... you want all of that glue out. It's on the fluted rubber dust stoppers too, so while the first rinsing probably washed much of it out, there's likely still some in there.

[novazeus]

25 minutes ago, Tawpie said:

Rinse it out some more with acetone or WD40... you want all of that glue out. It's on the fluted rubber dust stoppers too, so while the first rinsing probably washed much of it out, there's likely still some in there.

acetone definitely cleans but it will melt plastic. when u build golf clubs, after belt sanding the ferrule with a linen belt, u take a cloth soaked in acetone and wipe down the ferrule and it becomes new and shiny. plus might be too caustic for other parts. wd-40 is a helluva cleaner and says it's safe dor plastic. i tried to remove the battery sticker residue when it  pulled off and 99% isopropyl wouldn't cut it, but wd-40 took it off np.

yeah if king song doesn't recall our sliders, could they please tell me what material they made them from.

i just need a double long straw to hit those rear channels.

now that i've seen the pro sliders in action on chooches video, i have something to aim for. 

Edited January 7, 2023 by novazeus

[Tawpie]

The plastic 'slider' things were fine with acetone. Whatever they're made out of. I'm guessing it's delrin, or a similar formulation. All of the plastic parts on the wheel are up top, so as long as you don't turn it upside down there's nothing that is upset by acetone. At least nothing out of the ordinary happened to my wheel!

[novazeus]

34 minutes ago, Tawpie said:

The plastic 'slider' things were fine with acetone. Whatever they're made out of. I'm guessing it's delrin, or a similar formulation. All of the plastic parts on the wheel are up top, so as long as you don't turn it upside down there's nothing that is upset by acetone. At least nothing out of the ordinary happened to my wheel!

did u disassemble urs? or just a wash in place. and without samples of delrin or whatever they used, idk if acetone melts it or not. 

btw, i used to think all the time with subs, wtf were u thinking? i'd like that conversation with whoever made the decision to use hardening lithium grease, my guess of what it is? and did they think on the boat ride to their destinations, the sliders would magically healed themselves.

i mean wtf! 

i have two lp heaters now, not hookerd up, because china didn't include adapters for gas or water for the lp water heater, and neither did this ventless lp heater, that oh btw, needs to be vented. if u aren't  gonna give me the parts i need, could u at least tell me wtf i need. these assholes are inconsiderate to the 19th power.

and i have unlimited highspeed internet thru at&t and because the snowbirds have flocked south, it's like i'm on dial up. i used to work for wireless. i'll complain to the fcc. this is criminal. pure fraud. woman said they are working on it in my area. bullshit, they need another tower here. it's where the interstates connect, i-275and i-75.

my life with wireless is like being atelectric daisy carnival in las vegas, just too many users. i'm sick of humans just bald face lying about everything, especially their products. 

angry old contractor here who was the last line of defense on th garbage manufacturers make. i can't tell the homeowner, here's a receipt for ur doorknob, take it to home depot and maybe they'll exchange it for u.

be interesting to see if king song does right by their customers. for y'all, not me. i just torched  3  wheels, nbd. 

i  might screw with mine tmrw with a heavy wd-40 wash with lots of paper towels underneath. and i got the 3m stuff u recommended.  and a bunch of other stuff.

i was cautious with the wd-40 because i think it's carrier is kerosene or some derivative of it, but they swear safe for plastics.

but those new pro sliders, oh my, they actually put some thought into those. much better than the drawer guides fix. they can put those back in mama's drawers.

rick simpson uses naptha for his rso, but i know nothing of it. great stuff constructiom foam adhesive uses acetone to clean the guns, and it makes me sick, like if i spray it on my fingers to get the glue off because i was too stupid to not wear disposables. made me nauseated. could be the cancer, idk, never bothered me building golf clubs.

Edited January 7, 2023 by novazeus

[Tawpie]

58 minutes ago, novazeus said:

did u disassemble urs? or just a wash in place. and without samples of delrin or whatever they used, idk if acetone melts it or not. 

I did disassemble mine, and scrubbed the 'slider' things with an acetone soaked paper towel. No melting or even marring of the plastic things occurred. I'm quite certain they tolerate acetone, whatever they are made of.

[novazeus]

8 hours ago, Tawpie said:

I did disassemble mine, and scrubbed the 'slider' things with an acetone soaked paper towel. No melting or even marring of the plastic things occurred. I'm quite certain they tolerate acetone, whatever they are made of.

u did it the correct way! good to know!

i'm gonna half ass mine until i see what king song does for previous owners. if they want all there flagship wheels out there in public with shit suspension, and losing sales, that's bad business for them. this is what manufacturers don't realize.

every house i ever built i considered a model home. i knew the humans that bought a house from me would be proud of it and throw a big housewarming party inviting their other rich friends over, and i wanted them to see the best built home they had ever seen. that's where my future sales would come from. why spend money on advertising to the masses when only one tenth of one percent could afford my houses. rich friends of my customers were the ones i wanted to impress.

[novazeus]

8 hours ago, Tawpie said:

I did disassemble mine, and scrubbed the 'slider' things with an acetone soaked paper towel. No melting or even marring of the plastic things occurred. I'm quite certain they tolerate acetone, whatever they are made of.

since u got all up in there, do u think king song used the proper materials to build their slider system? i saw one guy posted a video that the apparatus the sliders attach to was breaking also.

if i wasn't so stretched for time and a place to work on it, my curiosity would already have me taking it apart, but physical contraints of my surroundings say no. i order everything in. i never leave the ranch. well, 4 times since 1-2020.  dentist 2, pharmacy 1, lab 1. that's it. i can't, i'm like a security guard here. 

plus, i'd like to put some miles on it before i tear into it. 

Edited January 7, 2023 by novazeus

[Rawnei]

1 hour ago, novazeus said:

since u got all up in there, do u think king song used the proper materials to build their slider system? i saw one guy posted a video that the apparatus the sliders attach to was breaking also.

if i wasn't so stretched for time and a place to work on it, my curiosity would already have me taking it apart, but physical contraints of my surroundings say no. i order everything in. i never leave the ranch. well, 4 times since 1-2020.  dentist 2, pharmacy 1, lab 1. that's it. i can't, i'm like a security guard here. 

plus, i'd like to put some miles on it before i tear into it. 

Have a link to that video?

[novazeus]

i'll see if i can find it for u.

if the screws were missing, qc and unbelievable they wouldn't have scoured their "model" wheel for qc before shipping. be like me having a 2x4 sticking thru a ceiling in one of my models and wondering why i'm not selling houses. 

if the fasteners sheared, then it might be back to the drawing board. 

[novazeus]

1 hour ago, Rawnei said:

Have a link to that video?

https://youtu.be/uRonysKxwJM

yeah, this should help ks s22 sales!

btw, i'm offgrid using at&t wireless 5g and it's about as good as dial up, if ur old enough to know what that is. so searches for me, take a day or so.

Edited January 7, 2023 by novazeus

[Tawpie]

2 hours ago, novazeus said:

since u got all up in there, do u think king song used the proper materials to build their slider system? i saw one guy posted a video that the apparatus the sliders attach to was breaking also.

It all looked good to me, but I'm not a mech Engineer or a materials expert. Thusfar, the field history indicates the materials choices etc. are sound enough for shibby_time and the other jumpers I know. Lots of videos of stair riding etc. and I haven't seen reports of bending or other problems with the metal parts of the suspension. EUC-a-way-of-life's problem was really that either his bolts weren't torqued enough, or in 1 case were torqued way way way too much. The damage you saw was due to trying to dremel a slot into the stuck/stripped bolt to try inserting a flat bladed screwdriver.

In my case, checking all accessible fasteners, only 1 was not torqued to my satisfaction. I did shim out the shoulder/binder bolts that hold the top and bottom of the shock so that the shock could pivot, but other than that it was very clean.

[novazeus]

7 minutes ago, Tawpie said:

It all looked good to me, but I'm not a mech Engineer or a materials expert. Thusfar, the field history indicates the materials choices etc. are sound enough for shibby_time and the other jumpers I know. Lots of videos of stair riding etc. and I haven't seen reports of bending or other problems with the metal parts of the suspension. EUC-a-way-of-life's problem was really that either his bolts weren't torqued enough, or in 1 case were torqued way way way too much. The damage you saw was due to trying to dremel a slot into the stuck/stripped bolt to try inserting a flat bladed screwdriver.

In my case, checking all accessible fasteners, only 1 was not torqued to my satisfaction. I did shim out the shoulder/binder bolts that hold the top and bottom of the shock so that the shock could pivot, but other than that it was very clean.

not in this one. 300 miles!

 

Edited January 7, 2023 by novazeus