Paul A Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 49 minutes ago, SamSuffit said: i noticed 2 additional stickers on the motor with 2 different dates it seems: Maybe scan the QR codes and see if they reveal any information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamSuffit Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Paul A said: Maybe scan the QR codes and see if they reveal any information? I tried the QR code for you: it only repeats the code below in text. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian-NZ Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 19 hours ago, SamSuffit said: While putting 3D printed suspension and putting plastic sheet to limit dirt ingress, I'm just about to install the 3D printed suspension. The bearings arrived 30mins ago! Has the plastic sheeting made any difference? I've been thinking of doing something like that to my wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamSuffit Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Julian-NZ said: Has the plastic sheeting made any difference? I don't know, i am still working on my wheel, but it seems to protect well from the tire splashing dirt into it. I just copied the idea from here: https://www.espritroue.fr/topic/18129-la-kingsong-s22/?do=findComment&comment=352049 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Reitz Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) On 10/29/2022 at 10:18 PM, NErider said: My S22 dipped hard in turns out of the box. It was really bad and i was afraid it was unridable for me. I did a calibration, and it went away completely. It rides fine in hard mode now. On 10/30/2022 at 4:14 PM, kiitick said: Mine was really that way as well, until I calibrated it. Once calibrated for level, it went right away. I remember thinking it was close to unrideable before that. So I calibrated my S22 with a level. The tilt-backs during turns still exists. I also gave up on my -2 degree forward tilt that used to feel good and balance the wheel at 0 mph. Seeing this again gives me the sense that rebuilding my S18's suspension should be my next project. The S18 is way more maneuverable due to the S20 having this Tippy Dippy Bullshit. (yes this wheel is a V1 S20 with 4th controller that calls itself an S22) THIS firmware version is "Tippy Dippy" and I hate it. Doing 5mph 180 degree turns within about 5' trail-width dumps me off the back (even post calibration). Here is an example (start at 4:45 in the video to see it). And watching it again to post here - boy that makes me angry to have to deal with that. Edited November 1, 2022 by Elliott Reitz clarification 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian-NZ Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 9 hours ago, SamSuffit said: I don't know, i am still working on my wheel, but it seems to protect well from the tire splashing dirt into it. I just copied the idea from here: https://www.espritroue.fr/topic/18129-la-kingsong-s22/?do=findComment&comment=352049 @SamSuffitThanks Sam This is so much easier. I was thinking of laminating a carbon sheet to fit (talk about over engineering!) I'll look for some Mono Film locally. If I can't get any, I might cut open a large water container. I don't need the strength, just a bit of stiffness. Back to work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Reitz Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Julian-NZ said: @SamSuffitThanks Sam This is so much easier. I was thinking of laminating a carbon sheet to fit (talk about over engineering!) I'll look for some Mono Film locally. If I can't get any, I might cut open a large water container. I don't need the strength, just a bit of stiffness. Back to work For ### sake, use duct tape! For the crappy sliders it won't matter how much you try to protect them from dirt. The more they scratch the more they bind regardless of your lube job. Get the rollers and let the good times roll! Edited November 2, 2022 by Elliott Reitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian-NZ Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 16 hours ago, Elliott Reitz said: Get the rollers and let the good times roll! Already printed them out. The bearings arrived yesterday. Looking forward to 'un-greasing' the wheel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Please send any excess good karma my way... I ordered my oompaloompa from eevees today. It has the bad motor in it, and the bad sliders, and probably the bad motherboard and the bad velcro as icing. But the price... (somebody buy my other wheels, I don't have room for this!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanman Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 That is a nice price wow, assuming they follow through with the new motors when they get them seems like a great deal to me. Sliders have enough aftermarket solutions available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Is the gold edition supposed to be better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Paul A said: Is the gold edition supposed to be better? longer warranty and one would think it has the pinned motor already installed, but other than that... nope. Except it's gold and not lucky-red. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litewave Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Tawpie said: Please send any excess good karma my way... I ordered my oompaloompa from eevees today. It has the bad motor in it, and the bad sliders, and probably the bad motherboard and the bad velcro as icing. But the price... (somebody buy my other wheels, I don't have room for this!) For anyone considering the purchase of an S22 from eevees.com on sale, you should known they raised the price on the wheel and insurance overnight. What cost $2626.00USD yesterday now costs $2766.00USD. The actual fluctuation overnight in the CAD-USD exchange rate was only $.00538694 (US peak to current), or an extra ~$14USD (check my math). Hmmmm. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Yeah, definitely demand pricing. I think they may be fishing for the price that'll move the inventory (although 14USD isn't much). I didn't get the insurance, paid 66USD for shipping and 2440USD for the wheel. It's already been picked by UPS in Canada. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNZ Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Good luck, @Tawpie! Keep us in the loop… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kiitick Posted November 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2022 Put the cnc sliders into my s22 today. As I was taking the wheel apart, I couldn't help but smile with the ease of teardown. I love the new sliders, very nice. Turns a great ride into an incredible ride. It was the difference in ride that spiked pedals first made. Had some friends come over, and ride the upgrade. I now have several friends that want the s22. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, kiitick said: Put the cnc sliders into my s22 today. As I was taking the wheel apart, I couldn't help but smile with the ease of teardown. I love the new sliders, very nice. Turns a great ride into an incredible ride. It was the difference in ride that spiked pedals first made. Had some friends come over, and ride the upgrade. I now have several friends that want the s22. This is really encouraging to hear. If some effective dust protection for the sliders are also found, then we have four different effect suspension designs competing. It will be exciting to see how they will be refined, and how well they will ride over time. Edited November 5, 2022 by techyiam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamSuffit Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, techyiam said: This is really encouraging to hear. If some effective dust protection for the sliders are also found, then we have four different effect suspension designs competing. It will be exciting to see how they will be refined, and how well they will ride over time. Summary of the suspensions sliders propositions from what i understand: The 3D printed one (should be less robust than the CNC aluminium ones): https://www.printables.com/fr/model/268351-s22-3po-the-3d-printed-option-kingsong-s22-suspens the artisanal Russian (first ones with a CNC option). How to buy? difficult to get with the war, i would not try it. The Bulgarian shop MyEwheel (CNC with 4 wheels, 220€, made in larger quantities): How to buy? https://myewheel.com/s22-sliders-suspension-kit/ The artisanal Spanish ones (Guías CNC Aluminio, price around 200€, 6 wheels & dust protection): How to buy? https://t.me/cncs22 The artisanal French ones (David Schwartz, price around 200€, 6 wheels & dust protection): How to buy? https://www.facebook.com/groups/1876404869187267/permalink/2206426752851742/ In my opinion, the Spanish or French ones seems to be the more robust and complete system with CNC, 6 wheels and dust protection. I have not any financial interest in this post, i just want to summarize the current available options. Edited November 5, 2022 by SamSuffit price indication added 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 34 minutes ago, SamSuffit said: Summary of the suspensions sliders propositions from what i understand: Great summary! If we can find out prices for each one, the list will be even more valuable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamSuffit Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, mrelwood said: Great summary! If we can find out prices for each one, the list will be even more valuable. Good point. The price has been added, but for the artisanal ones the price is still adjusting between 160 and 220EUR from what i think, depending on the options, calculation of costs, and excluding transportation. You have to contact directly the creators in order to have a detailed price. Edited November 5, 2022 by SamSuffit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 49 minutes ago, SamSuffit said: The price has been added Marvelous! I thought I saw someone mentioning a ~$100 system coming from RevRides or something. I think @Elliott Reitz mentioned the expenses for the printed parts, and it was maybe something like $30-$40? If someone can really introduce a ~$100 system, they’ll have big problems manufacturing them as fast as the markets would like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, mrelwood said: Marvelous! I thought I saw someone mentioning a ~$100 system coming from RevRides or something. I think @Elliott Reitz mentioned the expenses for the printed parts, and it was maybe something like $30-$40? If someone can really introduce a ~$100 system, they’ll have big problems manufacturing them as fast as the markets would like! RevRides was working on selling the 3D printed ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Would ex-Jack King Song still have a direct line to KS? Or anyone else. Be great if KS could just assemble the S22 with the best available sliders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Paul A said: Would ex-Jack King Song still have a direct line to KS? Or anyone else. Be great if KS could just assemble the S22 with the best available sliders. They are already working on their own official version that they are prototyping with good results, so official version coming sooner or later. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tawpie Posted November 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2022 On 11/3/2022 at 5:55 PM, KNZ said: Good luck, @Tawpie! Keep us in the loop… It arrived today... going through pre-launch procedures. Motor is 220630XXXX so as advertised the motor needs replacement. eevees has confirmed they'll pay to replace/fix it. First step in my process is to charge and balance (arrived at 3.5V with largest deltaV of 17mV... fantastic), then fastener check and ride off the learner speed restriction. Then it'll get stalled and dropped on a steep grassy hill to kill the motherboard 'now' rather than when I'm out somewhere in the boonies. Lastly it'll get pulled apart to degrease and align the sliders and replace the spring. A visual look at the slider 'grease' it appears they're not using the green stuff anymore. Surprisingly, when I step off it pops right up to the top of the suspension travel which is good—I expected the goober slider arrangement to already be jammed up. Fingers and toes are crossed. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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