romdel Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Hello! Maybe I didn't search deep enough then please accept my apologies...so I'd be ok for a link as an answer... I'm wondering what are the Regulations affecting Electric Unicycles in Germany? I live in the Frankfurt area. I'm interested on Ninebot One C+ and E+ if that matters to the answer. if not included in the link or answer, I'd be interested if I get an eUnicycle, how to be legally plying the main roads, or small roads, or side roads, or bike lanes, or pedestrian lanes, or walking or jog paths in some greens/forests or along rivers.... Thanks guys. More power.
OliverH Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 There's no category in Germans national regulation yet. I just prepared an overview, which is in review and should be published next week on eWheels.org. We like the eWheels to be integrated in MobHV (Mobilitätshilfenverordnung).
romdel Posted November 8, 2015 Author Posted November 8, 2015 Thanks. So it means that in the meantime, it's ok to use it w/o worries? Cool. Looking forward to the results of the overview. Best regards.
romdel Posted November 9, 2015 Author Posted November 9, 2015 Ok. Noted. Thanks guys to the info and tips. im with you then in this. Looking forward to a positive and hopefully faster results.
Guest Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 They are illegal in Germany. You are only allowed to ride them on private property. Some EUC riders in Berlin have been stopped by the police and fined by authorIties. It's a sad situation. I ride solely through parks now, which is also not allowed and hope for not being fined again.
johnc415 Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 47 minutes ago, ScooterB said: They are illegal in Germany. You are only allowed to ride them on private property. Some EUC riders in Berlin have been stopped by the police and fined by authorIties. It's a sad situation. I ride solely through parks now, which is also not allowed and hope for not being fined again. I sympathize with you guys in Germany. Just get a faster wheel and always practice eagle eyes. When you spot police, swiftly and quietly make a clean getaway. I doubt they'll run after you, not like you're dangerous criminals on the loose!
Tilmann Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 3 hours ago, johnc415 said: When you spot police, swiftly and quietly make a clean getaway. I doubt they'll run after you, not like you're dangerous criminals on the loose! About like this? https://www.facebook.com/MrTechnicalDifficult/videos/1456930954354270/
Jurgen Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 hi guys, In order to have an overview I've started the following thread: http://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/1900-euc-friendly-countries/
One Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 On 8.11.2015, 15:40:38, xamino said: Sadly no. Strictly speaking they are technically illegal to use on public properties currently. Because they are motorized and faster than 6 km/h (4? I keep forgetting.) they theoretically require registration and insurance, which is hard to get as no papers exist for them yet. That said I haven't been stopped yet, although I do make it a point of riding where less police is present. No need to risk it. Additionally you are very unlikely to get stopped somewhere in the country side. It is high time the German state learned to react faster to new things in better, correcter ways – "Neuland" lässt grüßen. For everybody in Germany this might be interesting: http://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/1906-pflichtversicherung-in-deutschland-rechtliche-besonderheiten/ In this post I wrote about the situation here and how to get an ensureance without paying. I already did this trick for my electric longboards. :-) Enjoy reading!
Achim63 Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 The only official documents I found are linked on this page: http://www.unicycling.de/german/unicycle/unilegal.html According to that, it's allowed to use EUCs on footways - and even on bike paths if they have everything the regulations for bikes prescribe (guess we'll have to mount a bell on our wrists ...). Since that article is quite old - is there a link to a more recent official court/ministry ruling regarding this? Best, Achim.
Noam Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Hi @Achim63, the documents mentioned in your link referring to conventional unicycles only. I believe the electric motor of an euc makes it a completly different kettle of fish. Although, I am sure euc's have to comply with the requirements mentioned in the posted link anyway.
Achim63 Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 14 hours ago, Noam said: Hi @Achim63, the documents mentioned in your link referring to conventional unicycles only. I believe the electric motor of an euc makes it a completly different kettle of fish. Although, I am sure euc's have to comply with the requirements mentioned in the posted link anyway. *facepalm* I didn't realize that. So I guess I'll have to be careful not to run (wheel?) into a police control as I intend to use the EUC to commute.
Andy_T Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 Maybe this site is of interest to German EUC users: LUMEE ... Legal Unterwegs Mit Elektrischen Einraedern... http://lumee.org/ BTW, legally on the road with a personal light electric vehicle in Germany is possible, but you will need two wheels: http://www.forca-sports.de/bossman/ And this is what makes it special.... Best regards, Andy
OliverH Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 On 04.12.2015 18:23:50, Achim63 said: The only official documents I found are linked on this page: http://www.unicycling.de/german/unicycle/unilegal.html According to that, it's allowed to use EUCs on footways - and even on bike paths if they have everything the regulations for bikes prescribe (guess we'll have to mount a bell on our wrists ...). Since that article is quite old - is there a link to a more recent official court/ministry ruling regarding this? Best, Achim. It's all about self balancing and not having a mechanical brake. EUs must be fitted in MobHV.
romdel Posted April 23, 2016 Author Posted April 23, 2016 Hi guys! Good day! Would you know of any new updates regarding the regulations pertaining to the use of EUCs in Germany? Thanks and best regards.
Guest Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 As far as I know, nothing is happening. In Germany EUCs are only allowed on private property. It’s forbidden to ride them on streets, sidewalks and parks. Some riders have been fined others were let go. Some managed to get an insurance plate (despite ensurance companies not being clear about actual insurance, some denied the ensurance), which lowers the possible degree of penalty.
Luca Morello Posted October 19, 2016 Posted October 19, 2016 News from Germany? Is it legal or no? insurance or no? More simply with hoverboard/hoverkart?
Luca Morello Posted October 19, 2016 Posted October 19, 2016 If it strays into neighboring Holland is everything ok?
cloudust Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 It is officially not legal to ride an EUC on the public road. But if you check the post from @Hansolo in the video thread, they rode in AMsterdam and even passed right in front of a police car. I also commute with my Ninebot One E+ daily.
Hansolo Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 And policeman or policewomen smile when we ride in front of them. Just be very carreful with bicycle and scooter 50cc (they use bikeway) without brake!
Luca Morello Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Not Amsterdam, but city like Nijmegen, it is the best city for economic transport like bike or in this case for electric unicycle
Luca Morello Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 http://www.velo-city2017.com/learn-more/nijmegen-best-cycling-city-in-the-netherlands/
RenaissanceMan Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 I enquired about the current state on EUCs in Germany at the BASt and BMVI (in German) in this other thread: General Electric Unicycle Forums -> Local Group Meet Ups -> German Discussion Group Replies (in German) are also posted. Summarizing the content of the replies would be "we are working on it ..." nothing specific, no time line.
romdel Posted May 19, 2019 Author Posted May 19, 2019 On 11/8/2015 at 1:20 PM, OliverH said: There's no category in Germans national regulation yet. I just prepared an overview, which is in review and should be published next week on eWheels.org. We like the eWheels to be integrated in MobHV (Mobilitätshilfenverordnung). Hi Oliver/Guys! I heard about new regulations coming out (mid of 2019?). Are there specifics to EUCs being roadworthy/roadlegal? Thanks all.
Mimetic Polyalloy Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, romdel said: Hi Oliver/Guys! I heard about new regulations coming out (mid of 2019?). Are there specifics to EUCs being roadworthy/roadlegal? Thanks all. To be short: Just forget it. Self balancing vehicles without steering bar (like hoverboards or EUCs) have been excluded from those oncoming regulations. We are outlaw riders from now on... Feels like joining an MC... Born to be wild!
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