firewire Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Hi, I’ve never ride a wheel before but I have good balance and I learn fast, I rode an electric longboard in the past and I currently ride a powerful off-road electric scooter. I like to go off-road and I ride with a group of people who also ride scooters and a variety of euc like a Z10, GT16, MSX, Monsters, etc... I’m thinking of buying my first wheel, I don’t want to buy a simple wheel to learn to ride to replace it after 100 Km because I need much more. So my plan is to buy my first wheel to be my long term wheel, I’m thinking about the Msuper X or the Monster. Do you think that would be to much to start with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Martin Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 My first wheel is a Monster, and I don't regret starting with it. I am thrilled with it, but it will bite you if you are careless. My ride area is gravel and mowed pasture, and anything less would not have worked for me. Evaluate where and how you are going to ride and base your choice on that. Ride safe! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LZMutant Posted October 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2019 Hi - not to be a contrarian, but there are a lot of folks who spend quite a bit of money on a wheel before they learn how to ride and find they either don't like it, lack the patience to ride competently, or find their particular riding style differs from the type of wheel they buy. The solution, in my view, is to buy a cheap used wheel that you don't feel bad bashing around as you learn. Once you are competent, then reward your efforts with the best wheel you can afford that suits your riding style. There are many used wheels available in the private sales section of this forum. Humbly suggest you start small on a well-used wheel and then get your dream ride when you figure out what you want. Either way - good luck and ride safely! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meserias Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 if you already ride some other electric vehicles you already know the feeling... my fist wheel is KS18XL and in about two hours I was riding it 20m straight My recommendation for your is to get a MSX with 1800wh battery... Build your day-to-day use case and share it with us and will make better recommendations for you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrelwood Posted October 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2019 A learner wheel and going straight to the hornets’ nest may both be viable choices. Although, if you are a fast learner, the cheap wheel might be a wheel just for the first week, if even that. While I haven’t gotten to try the Monster, for many it seems to get a lot less riding than their 16-18” wheels. I would think that in order to push the need for a second wheel as far to the future as possible, one should go for a universal model. The best of the bunch being the llatest version of the MSX, Nikola, 18XL, or 16X. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 if you don't want to buy a training wheel, go for the msx, no doubt on that. you'll think to a 2ns wheel later ...;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Msx for sure, monster is more like the special wheel for when you want something different, the msx is more versatile interms of size and trolley and other thing. It rides like a dream. Just remember to cover it up with some foam roll before practising so it can take a little beating, afterwards you will be happy you got a good wheel. Just don't go too fast in the first months, you will feel too confident. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Kim Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Considering you WILL drop that wheel, I’d evaluate the price of a replacement shell for both the MSX and monster; they run around $500 for a full replacement. Considering you can learn on a dirt cheap wheel for $300 and resell it for the same or a few bucks less, i’d strongly consider going that route. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 11/1/2019 at 2:21 PM, Ben Kim said: Considering you WILL drop that wheel, I’d evaluate the price of a replacement shell for both the MSX and monster; they run around $500 for a full replacement. Considering you can learn on a dirt cheap wheel for $300 and resell it for the same or a few bucks less, i’d strongly consider going that route. A roll of foam costs just a few bucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Kim Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 3 hours ago, mrelwood said: A roll of foam costs just a few bucks. roll of foam gets chewed up upon impact. that stuff doesn’t do much protecting tbh (i speak from experience). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Ben Kim said: roll of foam gets chewed up upon impact. that stuff doesn’t do much protecting tbh (i speak from experience). Then use some other foam than ”that stuff” that you have experience with. You know, there are quite a few different kinds of foam available. ”The stuffs” that I have ”experience with” from various projects would hold up great for way more tumbles than any beginner will put his wheel through in two weeks. Look for a 1/2 - 3/4” thick camping/hiking/tent/yoga mattress as a one good solution. Or EVA foam of similiar thickness, although it might get a bit more expensive. Still not in the short-term-beginner-wheel territory though. Edited November 3, 2019 by mrelwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolitheslowly Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I bought a MSX as my first euc and I do not regret it. I never stood on an electric longboard or on any other skateboard. After 1 or 2 hours of training along a wall I drove 2 km on a gravel road. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 11/1/2019 at 1:21 PM, Ben Kim said: Considering you WILL drop that wheel, I’d evaluate the price of a replacement shell for both the MSX and monster; they run around $500 for a full replacement. Considering you can learn on a dirt cheap wheel for $300 and resell it for the same or a few bucks less, i’d strongly consider going that route. No need for that lol Just get a foam roll, and a strap. Then you are good to go. Tape works too. But just cover that thing in foam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 11 hours ago, Ben Kim said: roll of foam gets chewed up upon impact. that stuff doesn’t do much protecting tbh (i speak from experience). Foam is literally made for shock absorption. So just the basic physichs in what you are saying. Is wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Bjerke Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Buy both. Monster is for long journeys and not very handy for commuting in Urban areas, MSX is a dream to drive and smaller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meserias Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Dear thread initiator, We are curios to see what you choose in the end ...and from where.... (I know that many ask what to buy but very few will actually post what have been chosen in the end) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Boivin Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 My first wheel was (is) the MSX. I have no regrets, but it did take longer to learn than most people take on smaller wheels. I wouldn't suggest the monster, if you plan on using your wheel as a commuter, just because its often too big to be practical. Doesn't have a trolley handle, weighs ~ 60 lbs. If you want to go dangerously fast, or on really long trips, go for the monster. Otherwise, the MSX will not let you down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BULL Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I have the 2 models: MSX and Monster!!. Both are big wheels! You have to decide what you will need and use. If you do not want a great wheel like the Monster .... the MSX is very practical in almost all areas! And it will always leave you very satisfied! I dated my Monster V2 and sold it to buy the new V3. And until I received it, I have been dating my MSX; and good feelings and memories have made me spend some good outings with my friends.😅😜 Although at a high pace .... like the Monster there is nothing! It has no rival!🥰🥰🥰🤩 But the decision is yours! If you can have both ... buy both...😅🤣🤙 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I don't subscribe to the 'learner wheel' idea. I personally have never seen anyone decide they don't want to ride an EUC after learning, they do however almost always want more power and speed. So why bother? You can learn on any wheel, like you can learn to drive any car and transfer the skills to a different car or truck.I suggest you get an MSX unless you are planning very very long rides mostly on roads, get a Monster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcatraz Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 A heavy wheel will be painful to learn on. The same way a motorcyclist will not really be super confident starting out on a heavy motorcycle rather than going light to heavier incrementally, getting the basic feel before hanging a giant load on the "back". That being said it shouldn't be a problem as long as you are committed to learning. The monster is a great long distance wheel but must be awful at maneuverability at slow speeds. (I never tried one) Try to decide upon the range you are realistically going to need assuming you've learned how to ride and enjoy it. Can you stand up for 2 hours without pain in your feet from all the shaking? If you can't there is no reason for buying a 3000Wh wheel. Neither for going to the supermarket or your friends home. Are you going to walk up stairs? Then a 25kg wheel might not be ideal. Do you weigh 100kg or 60kg? There are usually very different requirements for those two riders. A 16" wheel is quite stable for a small rider. But an 18" wheel could be too twitchy (small) for a very large rider. It depends on you and your style, which is hard to predict what it's going to be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrelwood Posted November 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 hours ago, alcatraz said: Can you stand up for 2 hours without pain in your feet from all the shaking? If you can't there is no reason for buying a 3000Wh wheel. I just have to comment on this... I can’t stand still for 10 minutes before discomfort starts to turn into pain. But I can quite easily ride an EUC for an hour, often even two. I don’t understand it that well myself, but I guess the constant motion from bumps, curbs etc combined with the vibration keeps the circulation and other fluids going in my legs. And adrenaline, hdopamine and endorphine drowns the pain. So don’t worry if you can’t stand still for an hour! You will likely still be able to ride for as long. Eventually, that is. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Martin Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 The seat on the monster is comfy and makes the "tired feet" problem go away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xorbe Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Guys, OP only saw the first 5 replies, and hasn't been back in nearly 4 weeks ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Boivin Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 4 hours ago, xorbe said: Guys, OP only saw the first 5 replies, and hasn't been back in nearly 4 weeks ... Probably didn't get a wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolitheslowly Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 "Probably" he DID get a wheel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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