How do I avoid denting my rim when going up stairs?

[ursi]

I did a practice session of stair climbing on my Begode Hero HT. I was getting up 7 by the end. However, afterwards I realized I had put many dents in my rim. I was running 40 PSI as far as my electric pump measures. It is only rated for 32 so I'm not sure how much higher I can go. How are people avoiding denting their rims when going up stairs?

[OldFartRides]

Maybe I’m just an old fart, but I just don’t get the fascination with going up and down stairs. So jarring for body and wheel ,even with suspension.  I like ramps ok. 
Anyway, good luck with that. Too bad about the rim.

[Cerbera]

18 minutes ago, OldFartRides said:

Maybe I’m just an old fart, but I just don’t get the fascination with going up and down stairs.

Well I am an old fart with you ! There's just no need for it round here - there is pretty much always a slopey, easier way down, and I find it very easy to avoid the places where there isn't. I totally understand reviewers showing it and whatnot, and people trying it to see if they can, or to 'complete' their skills, but I find myself avoiding stairs wherever possible - I have to admit, I still look for kerb flats rather than dropping straight off them, and I know I don't have to do that with a Master, but still do regardless a lot of the time, except where it makes my ride path more difficult...

[Scubadragonsan]

Tires wear out as time goes by. Why? Because of friction with the road. Rims shouldn't wear out. Why do they? Because they keep getting impacted. The solutions is to avoid the stairs! You can keep using them on the stairs, then you just have to replace them like tires after wearing out.

[Cerbera]

On 5/22/2023 at 9:17 AM, ursi said:

I did a practice session of stair climbing on my Begode Hero HT. I was getting up 7 by the end. However, afterwards I realized I had put many dents in my rim. I was running 40 PSI as far as my electric pump measures. It is only rated for 32 so I'm not sure how much higher I can go. How are people avoiding denting their rims when going up stairs?

What tyre is this ? And how heavy is your Hero and you and your armour altogether ?

Edited May 23 by Cerbera

[Hellkitten]

Sorry to hear about your rim. 😞 That’s one of the reasons why I didn’t drop those stairs with you. My rim has been graced by one too many potholes in this city and I can’t afford to make it worse. 🤣 🕳️🕳️

Often you can straighten your rim and get it back to semi normal. If you need help the crew at ride one have done it a bunch of times. 

Edited May 23 by Hellkitten

[ursi]

13 hours ago, Cerbera said:

What tyre is this ? And how heavy is your Hero and you and your armour altogether ?

Tire is stock I believe (CST knobby). I don't have a scale, but I'm gonna guess somewhere between 110-120 kg.

Edited May 24 by ursi

[Funky]

Step by step how to avoid denting rim, when going upstairs. Guide by your trolly @Funky

1. Step down on ground, feel the grass once in while. Don't become RoboDuck.
2. Use what mother nature gave you at birth - legs/arms.
3. Pick up that wheel like a potato/tomato sac.
4. Carry it carefully upstairs, like it's your baby. Stop abusing the poor thing.
5. Put it gently down on ground.
6. Step on.
7. Ride away dent free. Aside of your dented ego.. That you got while carrying it, as some hot girl was watching you struggle.
8. ???
9. Profit. No more dented rim. How easy was that?
10. Or you can skip step 3/4/5 and push it upwards more easily and without any pain. But as saying goes no pain, no gain. So it's up to you.

 

Edited June 1 by Funky

[UniVehje]

You can avoid denting your rims riding up stairs the same way people protect their rims when riding up or down stairs with their bicycles, mopeds, cars and scooters. 

I don't get the fascination of riding stairs with EUCs. I guess it's a trick riding thing copied from YouTube. What started as a convenient way of getting footage of suspension working ended up with manufacturers optimising suspensions for stairs and YouTubers assessing suspension mechanism by how well they perform in stairs. And now we are discussing how to protect rims for stair riding. Stairs are built and optimised for walking. For wheeled vehicles there's usually a ramp. And if not, it's probably not meant for riding. There's a handle on our wheels for the purpose of picking it up. 

If it's just a trick riding thing like what you do at skate parks, then just pump up the tire or accept that there devices are not built for that. 

[earthtwin]

If we ride our wheels like that then we will tear them up. I had to learn that lesson the hard way too with my V10f. Even the new suspension wheels can get messed up by riding them too hard. All wheels have a breaking point, it's best to try to avoid the breaking point rather than to try to see what your wheel can take before it breaks. I am taking care of my wheel this time because I don't want to make another costly mistake by thinking it's unbreakable. Incidentally the king song 14d is pretty tough; I cracked the inner shell and the outer shells, and have taken it apart and put it back together a few times, this last time I hade to tape the outer shell together to make it fit perfectly. My 14D still works flawlessly after much abuse. I take special care of it now though. A new KS14D is still like $800, why would I want to be careless with something as expensive as that to replace?

Edited June 3 by earthtwin
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[Cerbera]

13 minutes ago, earthtwin said:

 it's best to try to avoid the breaking point rather than to try to see what your wheel can take before it breaks.

Yes, that. Like so many things in life - be nice to stuff, and it'll work for you longer.

[ursi]

I don't understand how so many of you don't understand the appeal of riding stairs. Aside from the cool factor, which is subjective, you get objectively more freedom of movement. Imagine if you couldn't use stairs with your legs, wouldn't you prefer to be able to? It's a lot more convenient to have that option. 

That aside, I have come to the conclusion that riding up stairs just isn't really a safe thing to do. The influencers do it for videos, which makes it seems like just another advanced riding technique that people use regularly if they can - like going down stairs. But I have come to believe this is not the case.

Edited Sunday at 09:28 PM by ursi

[Funky]

14 hours ago, ursi said:

I don't understand how so many of you don't understand the appeal of riding stairs. Aside from the cool factor, which is subjective, you get objectively more freedom of movement. Imagine if you couldn't use stairs with your legs, wouldn't you prefer to be able to? It's a lot more convenient to have that option. 

That aside, I have come to the conclusion that riding up stairs just isn't really a safe thing to do. The influencers do it for videos, which makes it seems like just another advanced riding technique that people use regularly if they can - like going down stairs. But I have come to believe this is not the case.

You break your expensive EUC faster like that.. I don't even jump big curbs (I know i could do it easily - i simply don't abuse my EUC.) Heck that one time i went "off-roading" i broke my axle welds.. Imagine if i ride stairs and did big jumps. I would need to repair my EUC weekly.

No thanks. I will better hop off 5 seconds and lift my EUC off/on the big curb. And save some $$$ from repairs. Also time in long run.

Or simply choose the path where i don't need to step off my EUC. (I got only 3 big curbs in my city. Rest can be driven..)

Edited Monday at 12:05 PM by Funky

[mrelwood]

22 hours ago, ursi said:

I don't understand how so many of you don't understand the appeal of riding stairs.

I didn’t really see the comments as saying whether they think it’s appealing or not. Just about the realism of EUCs not to be able to handle it. Do you see any other vehicles being commonly (or at all) ridden up the stairs either?

 

22 hours ago, ursi said:

The influencers do it for videos, which makes it seems like just another advanced riding technique that people use regularly if they can - like going down stairs. But I have come to believe this is not the case.

This applies to many other things related to riding as well. YT is just YT, real life is different.

[UPONIT]

On 6/4/2023 at 2:28 PM, ursi said:

I don't understand how so many of you don't understand the appeal of riding stairs.

I definitely see the appeal. It looks fun as hell. Very, very tempting.

1) Not with a suspensionless wheel, though. Nope.

2) Willpower can overcome temptation when the stakes are high enough.  

3) I would love to be able to do stairs on an EUC one day. But I resist temptation for the foreseeable future.

4) I disagree with the analogies used by more experienced folks here (who you have wisely listened to). The reason all those other vehicles don't do stairs is because they have two axles, which means wildly inharmonious strikings of tires on different parts of stairs, and at different intervals, which equals shaken brains, loosened tooth fillings and other bodily and structural damage. An EUC has only one tire, so the strikings will at least be regular and rhythmic. Plus physics says the faster one descends/ascends stairs, the higher the frequency of the strikes, and the lower their perceived amplitude. In other words, a rapid buzz of manageable strikes vs. a slow series of thunks.

Also, hasn't anyone seen any of several James Bond, Mission Impossible or The Italian Job films? Motorcycles and MiniCoopers easily fly up and down stairs with no problem.