Dominic Winsor Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I've been using this fantastic app for a while now. A friend of mine asked me today — what do those orange dots mean? I realised I have no idea. Can anyone help me out/correct my understanding of the following labelled items: A, D (three orange dots on the outside gauge) — are these the three speed alarms? B (outer orange gauge) — current speed C (inner green gauge, left hand side) — battery percentage, with green dots that show the maximum and minimum battery % during your ride E (inner blue gauge, right hand side). also has two blue dots — no idea. Temperature maybe? F (dark orange hashed area) — maximum speed? what does this represent? G (linear scale, bottom of gauge, light green) — no idea. Lean angle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic Winsor Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 It would be really good to create a simple user guide/wiki on this app - it is always evolving (thank you @Seba for your amazing work). It is great, but it is also complex. There are other areas of the app that I also do not understand, such as the options around the speed alarms. What does it mean to alter the priority of the alarm in the middle of the list? Is there a wiki for the app? I have searched, nothing much useful comes up. Even Adam's video he mentions a few things he doesn't seem that confident about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickNonsense Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Actually i don't know what some of these are myself and i use the app everytime with my wheel. And the alarms confused me too with relation to priority. I have just set them and just let the wheel free spin to make sure the alarms are working at what i set them and then just leave them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickNonsense Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I just checked my app and i don't have the bar (G) (D) seems to be max speed. (A) seems to be average speed. (F) I have never seen! (E) Is tempertaure. No idea what the dots are, although high and low seems resonable guesses like you pointed out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 F) is only with KS and shows actual speed restriction. (Battery charge dependend or EUC lying on the side) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic Winsor Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 9 hours ago, NickNonsense said: Actually i don't know what some of these are myself and i use the app everytime with my wheel. Exactly! I wonder if the author needs any help with UX and UI design? Is it a community project or a closed-source initiative? I'm willing to contribute (as it is my job and I'm quite experienced at it) though this is not the point of my post at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) The first two 'A' dots are average journey speed and average riding speed (average speed in motion). The rest has been said already, apart from F which I am unsure about. I think it's something to do with speed limits...? Not sure, I have never seen it either... Edit: maybe tilt back speed setting (which I have never used).. Edited February 25, 2021 by Planemo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 13 hours ago, Chriull said: F) is only with KS and shows actual speed restriction. (Battery charge dependend or EUC lying on the side) Ah sorry only just saw this! good info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) good picture and explanation... maybe pin it? EUC World application & online service - Page 55 - Apps and App-related Gadgets - Electric Unicycle Forum (euc community) Edited February 25, 2021 by Tawpie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seba Posted February 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) On 2/24/2021 at 10:56 PM, Dominic Winsor said: A, D (three orange dots on the outside gauge) — are these the three speed alarms? B (outer orange gauge) — current speed C (inner green gauge, left hand side) — battery percentage, with green dots that show the maximum and minimum battery % during your ride E (inner blue gauge, right hand side). also has two blue dots — no idea. Temperature maybe? F (dark orange hashed area) — maximum speed? what does this represent? G (linear scale, bottom of gauge, light green) — no idea. Lean angle? A and D, from left to the right (always in this order) - average speed (including stops) as this is always lower, average riding speed (in motion only) and max speed. Usually you will see three dots as described, but you may see two (or one, or none) if any of three values is less than 5 kph B - current speed C - battery, with dots representing min and max value recorded during app runtime E - EUC temperature, which may correspond to different locations (mainboard temperature in Gotway/Begode/Veteran wheels or MOSFET temperature in King Song, Ninebot or Inmotion wheels) F - current speed limit imposed by EUC mainboard (only available in King Songs, Inmotion V11 and Sherman) G - current energy consumption and dot showing average energy consumption (not available for Veteran and Gotway/Begode) There also may be another yellow bargraph displayed above odometer if you set any of current alarms - a relative load indicator. It will show you how big is the battery current (or motor phase current in case of Gotway/Begode/Veteran) in relation of lowest of non-zero current alarms. For example, if you set current alarm to 100 A and actual current will be 50 A, bargraph will display 50 % of full scale. You can also see one or two dots - one yellow and optionally one blue. Yellow one will show max discharge load, blue is showing max regenerative (braking) load. Regen load is not available in Gotway/Begode/Veteran wheels. Edited February 26, 2021 by Seba 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKMotion Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I don't have G on my Veteran Sherman. Am I doing something wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seba Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, DKMotion said: I don't have G on my Veteran Sherman. Am I doing something wrong? This information is not available for Veteran and Gotway/Begode wheels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic Winsor Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 14 hours ago, Seba said: A and D, from left to the right (always in this order) - average speed (including stops) as this is always lower, average riding speed (in motion only) and max speed. Usually you will see three dots as described, but you may see two (or one, or none) if any of three values is less than 5 kph B - current speed C - battery, with dots representing min and max value recorded during app runtime E - EUC temperature, which may correspond to different locations (mainboard temperature in Gotway/Begode/Veteran wheels or MOSFET temperature in King Song, Ninebot or Inmotion wheels) F - current speed limit imposed by EUC mainboard (only available in King Songs, Inmotion V11 and Sherman) G - energy consumption and average energy consumption (dot) There also may be another yellow bargraph displayed above odometer if you set any of current alarms - a relative load indicator. It will show you how big is the battery current (or motor phase current in case of Gotway/Begode/Veteran) in relation of largest of current alarms. For example, if you set current alarm to 100 A and actual current will be 50 A, bargraph will display 50 % of full scale. You can also see one or two dots - one yellow and optionally one blue. Yellow one will show max discharge load, blue is showing max regenerative (braking) load. Regen load is not available in Gotway/Begode/Veteran wheels. Thanks @Seba — this is super helpful. Would you be up for doing a video on your youtube channel to talk through the app overall then into the specific features. It would be great to get a better understanding of how the alarms work with all the various options. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic Winsor Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Seba said: This information is not available for Veteran and Gotway/Begode wheels. I comped together a couple of screenshots so that everything was in view — I must have taken one screenshot when riding my S18, and another from my Sherman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKMotion Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Seba said: This information is not available for Veteran and Gotway/Begode wheels. Ok, that's a pity. Is it that the wheel doesn't provide the information? I would think it can be calculated from how many W(hatt) is used divided by kilometers? Could it be done @Seba? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seba Posted February 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, DKMotion said: Ok, that's a pity. Is it that the wheel doesn't provide the information? I would think it can be calculated from how many W(hatt) is used divided by kilometers? Could it be done @Seba? Gotway/Begode and Veteran wheels doesn't report DC/battery current but motor phase current. Power displayed by EUC World or any other app is derived from this phase current and is an arbitrary value that may only be used to estimate wheel load/output, but doesn't represent real power and can't be used for energy metering 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKMotion Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 On 2/26/2021 at 7:16 PM, Seba said: Gotway/Begode and Veteran wheels doesn't report DC/battery current but motor phase current. Power displayed by EUC World or any other app is derived from this phase current and is an arbitrary value that may only be used to estimate wheel load/output, but doesn't represent real power and can't be used for energy metering Thanks Seba for clearing this up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paulo Mesquita Posted March 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2021 Hi guys, I was reading this topic since I too had a need to understand some of of the EUC World gauge and I decided to go on Photoshop to blend - for my better memory - the original image from @Dominic Winsor and the explanation graciously given by @Seba.And since this will help me, I guess it will help other rookies like me. So I'm publishing my small contribution here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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