Roue Libre Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Hi all, ... and yes, this is yet another post about cutout ! I have a Ninebot One E+ and it seems to work well. However this morning I had a cutout resulting in a faceplant (causing only minor scratches, thanx to my wrist protections). I checked firmware and I use v1.2.7, so not the allegedly bad v1.2.6. I ride at level 6 (riding model) because I'm still a beginner. I was going quite fast and maybe the pedal started to tilt, without me to notice. I possibly continued leaning forward while already too fast, and the engine/battery could not follow with more power. However I thought that it would not cutout like this. I expected maintaining a constant speed. So I guess I should not go that fast, however would you advice changing the firmware or riding model ? Thanx for your suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulandjacquelyn Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 N10 or N20? I think we should note just in case there is a trendloop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roue Libre Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 The serial number starts with N20. I guess it's N20. I bought it very recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirGeraint Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Sounds to me like he kept leaning after the the speed warning so I'm not sure it really matters what serial number or firmware it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulandjacquelyn Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Probably not but think good to differentiate as only way to identify issues even if only remote chance. Since some reporting different performance n10 vs n20 I'm sure other differences exist or will surface but only if we note and if there truly is a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktiga Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 10 hours ago, Roue Libre said: Hi all, ... and yes, this is yet another post about cutout ! How long have you been riding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roue Libre Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 1 hour ago, Viktiga said: How long have you been riding? Not much, less than 30km. I should drive more responsibly as a beginner I'm learning my lessons now By the way I was wondering: should I set a speed limit around 18km/h to avoid this kind of thing ? Do you guys ride with a speed limiter ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninebot one p Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 8 minutes ago, Roue Libre said: Not much, less than 30km. I should drive more responsibly as a beginner I'm learning my lessons now By the way I was wondering: should I set a speed limit around 18km/h to avoid this kind of thing ? Do you guys ride with a speed limiter ? No I hate the speed limiter. I almost crashed the one or two times it was accidently left on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 12 hours ago, Roue Libre said: Hi all, ... and yes, this is yet another post about cutout ! I have a Ninebot One E+ and it seems to work well. However this morning I had a cutout resulting in a faceplant (causing only minor scratches, thanx to my wrist protections). I checked firmware and I use v1.2.7, so not the allegedly bad v1.2.6. I ride at level 6 (riding model) because I'm still a beginner. My highest setting was 1 - normally i ride in mode 0 from the very beginnig. Everything higher is way to "wobbly" for me. I do not see any reason why especially a beginner should drive at mode 6 (unless one just really likes it). 12 hours ago, Roue Libre said: I was going quite fast and maybe the pedal started to tilt, without me to notice. I possibly continued leaning forward while already too fast, and the engine/battery could not follow with more power. However I thought that it would not cutout like this. I expected maintaining a constant speed. So I guess I should not go that fast, however would you advice changing the firmware or riding model ? Imho you should change the riding mode to 0 or 1 - as wrote above i see no reason for any other mode. Could you turn on your Ninebot after the crash without unplugging the battery or attaching the ninebot to the charger? If so this was no "cutoff" but just a "normal" overleaning. The power of every EUC is limited and if you lean too much forward the EUC just has no chance to balance you out anymore. Could be easier to outlean the Ninebot in the softer settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roue Libre Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 20 minutes ago, Chriull said: Imho you should change the riding mode to 0 or 1 - as wrote above i see no reason for any other mode. Could you turn on your Ninebot after the crash without unplugging the battery or attaching the ninebot to the charger? If so this was no "cutoff" but just a "normal" overleaning. The power of every EUC is limited and if you lean too much forward the EUC just has no chance to balance you out anymore. Could be easier to outlean the Ninebot in the softer settings? I'll try some lower riding model. Yes I could turn on directly after crash. So as you say I probably overleaned, and maybe it has something to do with riding model. I would expect that it would beep in such situations. With more experience I will feel when the pedal is trying to pull me back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowMo Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 2 minutes ago, Roue Libre said: I'll try some lower riding model. Yes I could turn on directly after crash. So as you say I probably overleaned, and maybe it has something to do with riding model. I would expect that it would beep in such situations. With more experience I will feel when the pedal is trying to pull me back. I use ride mode 5 or 6 because I am used to the softness of my Gotway 14". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktiga Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 1 hour ago, Roue Libre said: I'll try some lower riding model. Yes I could turn on directly after crash. So as you say I probably overleaned, and maybe it has something to do with riding model. I would expect that it would beep in such situations. With more experience I will feel when the pedal is trying to pull me back. Me and my friend has only had 1 cutoff until now but that was his own fault for accelerating too fast. Been driving since June. I usually drive my C+ for steep angles at full speed without experiencing a single cut off. That's why I get concerned when I hear about cut off's on other brands, is it really that common with cut offs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philfree Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 After 300 km with the 1.2.7 i have never cut off, even riding often near 20 /21 (The beginning off the tilback) on my n1E) The tiltback is very progressive and when you feel se pedals going back up : stop leaning... you had to be very soft in accelaration at high speed, less the wheel beep more safe you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evel_Knievel Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just had a "an over-leaning incident". I guess I should say that I found the limit of the E+. I was being very aggressive and didn't have time to feel the tilt back or beeping. There has to be a limit and I found it. No major injuries just a bruised ego. So on more powerful wheels (just ordered a 1200 watt KS-16S) this "limit" should be a lot higher or just a little higher than the E+? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, Evel_Knievel said: Just had a "an over-leaning incident". I guess I should say that I found the limit of the E+. I was being very aggressive and didn't have time to feel the tilt back or beeping. There has to be a limit and I found it. No major injuries just a bruised ego. So on more powerful wheels (just ordered a 1200 watt KS-16S) this "limit" should be a lot higher or just a little higher than the E+? much higher! bigger batterie packs =more amps , stronger motor.... but still there is a overlean limit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evel_Knievel Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 That's my take away...there is a power limit with any wheel. If you approach it slowly there is time for beeps, tilt back etc. but get too aggressive and there is virtually no time for the machine to warn you. You are simply asking it to do something it cannot before it has time to tell you you are getting close to that limit. This was my fault. Part of the learning curve. I now understand a little bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 5 hours ago, Evel_Knievel said: Just had a "an over-leaning incident". I guess I should say that I found the limit of the E+. I was being very aggressive and didn't have time to feel the tilt back or beeping. There has to be a limit and I found it. No major injuries just a bruised ego. So on more powerful wheels (just ordered a 1200 watt KS-16S) this "limit" should be a lot higher or just a little higher than the E+? I think the limit will be higher, but higher speed is worse to fall from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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