travsformation Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 14 hours ago, Rehab1 said: My wife went on disability 6 weeks ago and I have been doing everything in my power to help her recuperate. See doesn't like all of my attention but I somehow managed to miss this post. I wish her a swift recovery! As to her not liking all of your attention, please tell me you didn't set up the synthabeam in the bedroom to keep her entertained... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) ( Lost Quote from two earlier here) @travsformation Nailed it!!!! ...... except for the weirdos and misfits comment. ....... Come on!!! ...... I am one of you! ..... I’m not normal!! Sorry about the Alexa, I don’t have one. I have an Ivan, He is great except that he is always spying on the NSA. Edited January 10, 2020 by RockyTop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RockyTop Posted January 10, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) @Rehab1 Yes, Our hearts are with you and your wife. Best wishes and hopes for both of you. synthabeam- I am impressed with your riding skills .... and it was neat, for sure but I am with @travsformation on this one. Edited January 10, 2020 by RockyTop 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post travsformation Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, RockyTop said: except for the weirdos and misfits comment. ....... Come on!!! ...... I am one of you! ..... I’m not normal!! Shit, you're right! I thought I was being nice by leaving you out of the misfit/weirdo category...it didn't occur to me it's a category you wanted to be included in! Damnit! 8 minutes ago, RockyTop said: Sorry about the Alexa, I don’t have one. I have an Ivan, He is great except that he is always spying on the NSA. I have an Ivanka. For some reason it keeps suggesting that I buy fashion items and criticizes my business initiatives... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musk Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 hours ago, General Principle said: Ahh boy. It’s amazing how those firmly entrenched in the dominant culture, class etc clutches their pearls...aghast, whenever an alternative is brought to their attention. Then go into the endless “whatboutisms” smh I even saw the words “why should we sacrifice” and “no known victims” 🤦🏾♂️ . FTR no one spoke of the OP’s intent. It’s about simply being aware. Malintent doesn’t have to be present for actions or words to be potentially dividing or make other feel like they don’t belong. I just want any and everyone to feel a part of this. And for those on the outside looking in, feel like they’d be welcome. Language and word choices are subtle and powerful. This kind of reminds me of a mini controversy on the FB page about who to ban and why. 🤔 I see you type all your replies in English. Let’s be inclusive and not presumptive by making sure to post French, German, and Spanish versions of your comment. /s OP isn't excluding people and neither is your English text. You needn't be burdened to make your words as accessible as possible to others unless it brings you personal satisfaction to do so. Readers translate your words into what's relevant for them - They are real, capable people with brains. I think it's condescending to treat marginalized groups like softies you need to protect. As an example, the several gay men I know are smart enough to read the word "wife" and translate it into a relevant term without feeling personally attacked. The energy you're misreading as "pearl clutching" is pushback against your soft condescension and low expectations of a fictional victim with imaginary feelings of exclusion that you've generated in your mind. Language and word choices are subtle and powerful. Agreed. Two other things: 1. The dominant culture where I live is one that aligns with your sensibilities, and that applies to most major metro areas. Your whole 'pearl clutching', 'dominant culture', 'alternative ideas' construction is 100% off the mark. Your profiling ability is not good. 2. I don't know what you're talking about with the banning stuff. Are you suggesting a ban? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR BRAD Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 9 hours ago, travsformation said: Mr. Brad, your balanced and eloquent comments are always a joy to read! I particularly enjoyed the vivid image that the line-drawing and sword-rattling evoked! (Speaking of which: guilty as charged...) @travsformation - thanks for the kind words. Made my day! Even a broken clock is right twice a day though! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travsformation Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 7 hours ago, MR BRAD said: @travsformation - thanks for the kind words. Made my day! Even a broken clock is right twice a day though! Here's to broken clocks then! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rehab1 Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2020 9 hours ago, travsformation said: As to her not liking all of your attention, please tell me you didn't set up the synthabeam in the bedroom to keep her entertained... 8 hours ago, RockyTop said: @Rehab1 Yes, Our hearts are with you and your wife. Best wishes and hopes for both of you. synthabeam- I am impressed with your riding skills .... and it was neat, for sure but I am with @travsformation on this one. Thanks guys! Made my day. Cheri is making daily progress from a herniated disk caused by a sudden jerk from her mom’s 80 pound golden doodle. Fortunately she can now walk around without crying after 2 minor surgeries. She’s now worried about her ability to return to her nursing job. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unventor Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rehab1 said: Thanks guys! Made my day. Cheri is making daily progress from a herniated disk caused by a sudden jerk from her mom’s 80 pound golden doodle. Fortunately she can now walk around without crying after 2 minor surgeries. She’s now worried about her ability to return to her nursing job. Please send my virtual hug and hope for recovering to her. Then I do think she has a husband that know that recovery is not always easy and hold a struggle to some level . Edited January 10, 2020 by Unventor 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, travsformation said: someone suggested I should refer to you as "my partner" I could be wrong, but I don't think anybody suggested this. I thought we all agree that because his partner is a wife he can refer to his partner as wife. That is even politically correct Edited January 10, 2020 by Mono 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blicky Te⚡️la Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 10 hours ago, Mono said: I could be wrong, but I don't think anybody suggested this. That is even politically correct No, you are right, no one suggested that. and please never say “politically correct” again! 😂 Such a bastardized term.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RockyTop Posted January 11, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, General Principle said: No, you are right, no one suggested that. and please never say “politically correct” again! 😂 Such a bastardized term.. You have deeply offered me with the use of the word “Bastardized”. I could not control the actions of my parents, yet I have to suffer the consequences of their actions. Such flagrant use of such a word is deeply disturbing and unacceptable. I don’t think you can even begin to understand the depth of the distress you have put me in. And such speech while preaching about inclusion. Disgraceful. I am joking... but what if I wasn’t? I was truly a fatherless child though, I chose not to be offered because there was no malice or intent. I know that you were not targeting me personally. ......... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blicky Te⚡️la Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, RockyTop said: You have deeply offered me with the use of the word “Bastardized”. I could not control the actions of my parents, yet I have to suffer the consequences of their actions. Such flagrant use of such a word is deeply disturbing and unacceptable. I don’t think you can even begin to understand the depth of the distress you have put me in. And such speech while preaching about inclusion. Disgraceful. I am joking... but what if I wasn’t? I was truly a fatherless child though, I chose not to be offered because there was no malice or intent. I know that you were not targeting me personally. ......... In keeping with your hypothetical, that would be a classic example of whataboutism. Whataboutisms flattens moral nuances into a black and white world view. But, yeah... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travsformation Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, RockyTop said: You have deeply offered me with the use of the word “Bastardized”. I could not control the actions of my parents, yet I have to suffer the consequences of their actions. Such flagrant use of such a word is deeply disturbing and unacceptable. I don’t think you can even begin to understand the depth of the distress you have put me in. And such speech while preaching about inclusion. Disgraceful. I am joking... but what if I wasn’t? I was truly a fatherless child though, I chose not to be offered because there was no malice or intent. I know that you were not targeting me personally. ......... You'd stayed out of this so far...are you trying to prove that you belong with the weirdos and misfits? Also: now that you've entered the debate, does that mean I can quit repressing my urges to jump back into the discussion and (hopefully) impose my world view on everyone else? (by force, if necessary) Fatherless child here too, BTW, and born out of wedlock. I've been called a bastard more times than I can count, but I don't think it has anything to do with that...(refer to the sentence above for a possible explanation) Edited January 11, 2020 by travsformation 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, General Principle said: In keeping with your hypothetical, that would be a classic example of whataboutism. Whataboutisms flattens moral nuances into a black and white world view. But, yeah... Welcome to the forum Hi, I’m Rocky Top. I can be direct but I mean well and I never wish Ill will on anyone. I don’t hate and couldn’t carry a grudge to save my life. I don’t understand everything, but that doesn’t mean I don’t care. You have a friend in me. I believe you have a MSX? Any trouble with the pedals? They keep bending on mine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, travsformation said: You'd stayed out of this so far...are you trying to prove that you belong with the weirdos and misfits? Also: now that you've entered the debate, does that mean I can quit repressing my urges to jump back into the discussion and (hopefully) impose my world view on everyone else? (by force, if necessary) Fatherless child here too, BTW, and born out of wedlock. I've been called a bastard more times than I can count, but I don't think it has anything to do with that...(refer to the sentence above for a possible explanation) LOL, Don’t worry, I am definitely a misfit. At work I am a go between. I have to keep the super brains with sharp tongues from getting killed by the skilled labor. I really thought they would be smarter about that. I have the unique ability to speak both languages and don’t fit in with either. I have been called every name in the book. ... and they keep adding more. If I am a useless F$&@ing bastard would that make me self perpetuating? My friend’s mother calls him a SOB. Who is shy trying to insult? Edited January 11, 2020 by RockyTop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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