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  2. Jean Dublin

    THE VIDEO THREAD!

    Great video by Paul, who rented my 2nd EUC (I've to update my signature, sold the IPS Lhotz and bought a 2nd hand Gotway ACM V1)
  3. rinzler

    Inmotion V10f vs Gotway Tesla

    Thanks. I guess to paraphrase @Marty Backe it really is wonderful time to be alive (in euc land) whereby either options are a great choice. I was looking at an excel of euc specs from another member on here and note that there seems to be a two year release cycle. That made think about not going with the Tesla since the v10f is a year younger and 2019 would be the next iteration year in the gotway time schedule (i assume this has manifested as the Nikola). I'm sure I'll be happy. Either way there are always pros and cons of either model. Still you got to just jump in at some point. I just hope the tesla water is good.
  4. Meelosh123

    Inmotion V10f vs Gotway Tesla

    I wouldn’t regret it. The Inmotion has a substantially lower speed, and it’s going to start throttling you to even slower speeds once the battery drops a little bit. According to the forum, it seems to have had a lot of issues. Overheating, not enough power up hills, not enough torque, water leaking in. Just saying, I was trying to make up my mind regarding the same exact decision exactly one year ago. Having the most silent motor was also important to me.
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  6. PogArt Artur

    I just ordered a KS 18xl

    100km? In a single night? Wow @kasenutty ! You're really ROLLING a lot Reading the comments it does look like the wheel is amazing
  7. stephenbadger

    TNE Q4-V4 Plus

    Does anyone know what the controller amps are on this 52 Volt, 1300W x 2 motor, 10" Tubeless tyre, "munchkin blue" e-scooter ?? 2018 TNE-SCOOTER V4 Price List(3).pdf This pic is reversed like an old tintype photo ...the disk brakes are on the other side & the wheels are navy blue ...this model also comes in a 1000W x 2 motor option ...and NO it's NOT waterproof ...20A battery US$610 or 26A battery US$655, plus shipping on alibaba or email pattysales@tne-group.net ...TNE is very fond of direct bank/money transfers.
  8. meepmeepmayer

    The Photo Thread

    57 km altogether. You can do a round tour of the interesting stuff (minus Aschau) in half the distance.
  9. We’re having a group ride tomorrow at the Gas Works Park. Meeting up at 1130 tomorrow and riding out at noon. Anyone is welcome to join us.
  10. Wow, fantastic find. I'm in!
  11. Olav

    The Photo Thread

    I most definitely enjoyed that! Would like to ride that route myself! How long was it?
  12. gena

    Pulled over in Amsterdam, NL

    Thanks a lot for that link. Hopefully it will get us in the right position. I am wondering if a petition at the EU level can have more impact?
  13. https://www.groupon.com/deals/n-hooters-15-for-30-egift-card-to-hooters-3
  14. Steef Klonoa

    Bummed about the Z10 and ewheels

    @esaj I made a separate post about it a while back, but it's been reliable as it always has been ever since the noise started:
  15. meepmeepmayer

    The Photo Thread

    Sorry for picture spam Today's glorious, glorious ride! Join me for a tour through some south Bavarian scenery. The first location is the town of Aschau im Chiemgau. This is the river Prien running through it and the Hohenaschau castle. The rocky mountain ridge in the background on the left is the rather famous Kampenwand mountain. Leaving the town, you see its idyllic location surrounded by mountains. Don't look at real estate prices here Following the river bike path downriver... The second location is the Samerberg area, a plateau at the foot of the mountains, a few hundred meters above the flat land level. It offers wonderful scenery and therefore lots (LOTS) of tourists and tourist stuff. Slowly but bravely (with two cooling breaks) my ACM climbed up there. The roads up there are perfect and super smooth and, together with the sights, make for pure riding joy. Here's the first glance after coming up. View of some far away mountains. If you're wondering what that roofed post is, I was. Turns out, is is a small painting behind a grate. Who would have expected that? "Hier wurde Simon Schmid, Mesner von Grainbach, am 18. Juli 1704 von den Kroaten gehäutet." Here Simon Schmid, sacristan of Grainbach, was skinned by the Croats on July 18th, 1704. I'm not sure about the history of what happened there. Click the image to see the bloody details. You can find a new sight, view or other interesting thing like this behind every corner in this area of undulating hills, roads, and hiking paths. Just lovely. In the village you saw three pictures above. A bit further along the way. Animals got a nice view. Wondering what I was doing. Turn a corner for another glorious view. The dog on the left was so chill I didn't even notice it at first. Nearly every farm here has tourist rooms or, like this one, offers "vacation on the farm" where the kids can meet the farm animals and so on. An impression of the verticality (always so hard to show in pictures). Can't move 50 meters without another great new view! Continuing on my route, one beautiful spot after the other. Here we're descending back down to flat land level. This is the Inn river valley, that's why there are mountains on the other side. The valley exits the Alps to the right (North). On the way down What else can I say? A cool old farm sitting on the steep mountainside, has its own small chapel. Easier than walking down to the valley for every prayer, I guess. Note how you come through a tunnel between the house and barn (on the left) on the way down, that is awesome. They have a view! Just a few seconds further down. Jesus effigy, the steep path down, and you can see the snowy Central Alps further into the Inn valley. A public swimming lake next to the river shines in the sunlight. All the apple trees (or whatever those are) are blooming this time of the year. Now we're down in the valley and one or two kilometers further. Location #3 is the small town of Neubeuern. They've got a serious castle there. There are a ton of castles along the Inn river. Nothing better than to plop down one somewhere, call yourself a Lord, and demand duties from the trade on and along the river, that was the idea. If they don't pay up, you blockade them until they do. Too many complainers or an army marching through, hide behind your wall. Such is life as a medieval entrepreneur The marketplace to the foot of the castle is a veritable elevated keep. One road goes through it, you enter through a gateway in a wall, exit through a gateway, the church and other buildings and steep embankments form a protective wall all around. Nicely defensible. And it's not even the castle itself yet. On the market place. Nicely painted buildings, and people enjoying the sun on various restaurant terraces. A fountain and the church with a distinctive tower you can see on the picture taken from below. View into the distance through a gap between buildings. I think this is the only entrance/exit besides the two archways. The inscription on the fountain commemorates and thanks a lord of the castle. It sounds a bit sycophantic. I didn't find out who the statue on the fountain depicts. Also check out the nicely painted buildings. The exit archway and some more painted buildings. Dude's showing some ass. Maybe it is indeed the castle lord, and the inscription is highly sarcastic? Probably it is related to the water of the river, who knows. Ass in front of the castle. Some more painted detail before I leave the place. Finally, on the way home, a nice farm house. The route. Starts on the right. Hope you enjoyed.
  16. Yffisch

    Edit : MCM5 800Wh (p.2)

    Yeah, but still Btw, today I heard some strange noise from my wheel every 10 seconds. I was at 39 degrees celcius and the fan started for 3 seconds and stopped again. Then it started after 10 seconds again and then repeat over and over. Sounds loud as an old computer fan. Is this a natural behaviour? I get worried when it just starts and stops like that.
  17. EWGP Instagram for more videos and photos 🙏❤️
  18. Thor

    IPS i5 firmware versions

    Hi@ll! I've ordered an additional wheel, the IPS i5 (245Wh), to practice with it, too. Perhaps I'll commute with it from home to work [home (~2km) -> train -> work (~1km)]. The android app is already set up, I'm ready for the i5 when it'll arrive. Do you recommend to update to the latest firmware versions? Thank you very much! Best regards Thor P.S. I'm also planning to spray the black i5 with another color, perhaps chrome or silver. I'll post photos.
  19. Marty Backe

    THE VIDEO THREAD!

    Agreed. But I still do ride the MSX and feel cheated that I can't also enjoy it seated, like apparently everyone else
  20. esaj

    Bummed about the Z10 and ewheels

    What do you mean by "computer noise"? I don't want you to start worrying, but a change in the wheel behavior (assuming you haven't updated the firmware or such) can be a sign of a trouble, like hardware failure starting to develop.
  21. houseofjob

    THE VIDEO THREAD!

    You own like one of the all-time best seated wheels in the Monster, why would you want to play pop-a-squat on a wheel that was a seated afterthought?
  22. Marty Backe

    THE VIDEO THREAD!

    That was hilarious. Your wife is a live wire, if you're familiar with that expression Love the juxtaposition of the two videos; the first one is wild & crazy, and the second is sedate. Your "retirement" is kind of rough so far, huh?
  23. Marty Backe

    THE VIDEO THREAD!

    I'm afraid for your knees Looks like a comfy ride. Unfortunately every time I try on the MSX it ends up being too hard on my knees (either I'm too tall or too old or a combination of the two).
  24. Esaj is better in explaining anything about EUCs, period! Thank you for unwrapping this!
  25. Twiggen

    Trade/Sell Gotway Tesla 84V

    Hey @BlackOutEX sorry for being a downer but I think I might just go straight to a KS 18L for now. If I'm interested again though I will def let you know!
  26. As has been discussed numerous times before in the forums, any wheel can fail at any time, no wheel or manufacturer is to be trusted 100% at all times (and numerous variations of this). We're being held from falling forwards/backwards by an intricate set up of electronics, a battery and an electric motor. Failure in any of these parts means immediate crash, and unfortunately, all of the parts can have (unforeseen) design mistakes, misbehave or fail at any given moment. Thus the general recommendation of wearing safety gear at all times. Far more often than not, the reason behind a crash can be traced to a rider mistake or environmental conditions, however, there's a (far too) high number of issues that have been traced back to design mistakes. While it was usually worse for the "no-name" small manufacturers (think a lot of dead boards / batteries / at least a couple of battery fires), of the top of my head (correct me if there's wrong information here, and also probably there are failure cases that I don't even remember anymore), these are the "big" cases I remember for the "big name" manufacturers: Kingsong Early KS's (before they even had a 16" model) had a lot of issues with overheating, luckily the wheels did have warnings for this, so riders were warned and could stop before the mosfets fried, around 2015, not sure if it was only the (old style, "tall alien-face") 18" -models, or also the 14" models KS16A's are rare, but if memory serves, the first version had issues like overheating, the B came out so fast that A's are very rare KS18's have had mainboard issues at least in the A, AY, AY+ models? A batch of KS16B's from early 2016 had a casting failure in the pedals (apparently air bubbles in the cast), causing fractures and on a few occasions, total breaking of the pedal on either side KS18L's (don't know if it also affects the XL) has (apparently still on-going) issue with the motor disengagement sensor -setup in the trolley (only happens while trolleying, not while riding?), before a few firmware updates were made, this could actually cause the motor to lock up totally (but no mosfets dying, ie. apparently the PWM was still running) and heat up the batteries, which is pretty dangerous Currently it seems that if the issue occurs, the firmware resets automatically, but it can still occur? No idea of the dips AtlasP is mentioning above, a new issue with KS18L/XL? I haven't been following the forums that much... Some earlier models had axles that broke over time (I don't remember if it was Gotway or KS or both)? On the bright side, KS16S's and B/C's were (and probably still are) the less defective wheels in general, at least the latest defect stats I saw, KS16S was leading with a little over 1% requiring warranty maintenance/replacement parts, whereas for many models of other manufacturers, the numbers can be as high as 10-20% or over. Still, as the above list shows, KS is not immune to mistakes and weird problems. And probably the defect statistics are outdated by now. Ninebot In 2015, a large amount of Ninebot One E's/E+'s (maybe C/C+'s also?) were bricked by a faulty firmware upgrade through their app As memory serves, the faulty version wasn't available but for maybe about 24 hours, yet a good number of riders had updated their wheels, killing them completely Ninebot P was a total fiasco, and was pulled from the market in months after its release, and never returned Battery fires, although rare, have been reported with E/E+'s, if memory serves, these happened during charging (faulty charger/BMS?) Ninebot One's (all models) mainboard design has been questioned by electronics professionals Although somewhat rare, there have been dead mosfets (gate voltage problems?), burned phase current sense resistors, I know of a case where the board died just by slight braking on a downhill, despite working without a hitch for four-figure number of kilometers before At least the earlier One's didn't use actual gate drivers, but a charge pump ("bootstrap") -setup in the mosfet driving circuitry, this saves maybe $1-2 per board in manufacturing, of which I've heard critical thoughts about from professional electronics designers (more than one) Ninebot Z-series has a battery drain problem when turned off (something's drawing far too much current than it should when the wheel's supposedly off), the severity of this depends on whether you have to leave the wheel stored for a longer while (like over winter here, which might mean ~6 months) Ninebot is probably the biggest player in the EUC-niche and has deep pockets and R&D budget (nowadays), yet even their products are not immune to issues. Gotway Earlier models (up to early MSuper V3's or so) had a number of issues, ranging from more-or-less random cut outs from out-of-the-blue to dying boards Some V3's died if you tried to take off from behind a twig in off-road, EUC Extreme has a video of this (or was that a Monster?) The different issues were at times so numerous that it lead to "funny" situations, apparently Gotway was changing the motor/mainboard designs so often that they couldn't themselves figure out which mainboard design would work with which motor, like the case where they couldn't produce a new mainboard for EUC Extreme because they didn't know what would work with the motor his wheel had (but this seems like a thing of the past) This timeframe (about 2014-2016, maybe early 2017 on some cases) is the reason for the "bad" reputation of Gotway Somewhere around 2016/2017, the motor powers had got so high, that the currents could overheat and melt the motor connectors/wiring, leading to a number of dead boards (the motor phases would short circuit, causing a bridge shoot-through in the inverter half-bridges), usually when climbing steep hills Some earlier models had axles that broke over time (I don't remember if it was Gotway or KS or both)? Gotway manufacturing/quality assurance still is somewhat dubious, but they have improved a lot over the last couple of years. There's no doubt that Gotway is (and always has been) the speed/power -king, and most of the issues seem to be a thing of the past. Inmotion Only case that comes to mind is the (very serious) case of lacking waterproofing on early V10's last year that lead to the batteries catching fire by themselves There's a thread about a battery fire in the Inmotion-section that started by itself in the middle of the night, the wheel wasn't even being charged As far as I know, Inmotion did a recall (at least in US) of all the affected wheels / shipped protective casings for the batteries for DIY install Inmotion's quality record in general seems to be good, except for the early V10's. I don't recall ever seeing much DOA reports or failures during riding, but I haven't been following on Inmotion that much anyway. As above shows, no manufacturer is perfect. Despite KS being the "lead" in quality control (at least on the surface, and at least on the current KS16-line) doesn't mean that their wheels won't fail, and despite past problems with Gotways doesn't mean that their wheels are going to explode in your face if you look at them the wrong way. It doesn't take but a single faulty component to cause a serious crash in the middle of the ride, and that could happen to any wheel at any time, so gear up. And never ever leave your wheel charging while you're sleeping or away. EDIT: Reading this back myself, it does give a bit negative image of the wheels in general (maybe). Keep in mind that vast majority of riders won't encounter any hardware problems and vast majority of crashes are inexperience, rider mistake or unforeseen environmental issues. Likely the amount of crashes caused by actual hardware failure is the minority of crashes. Typically, if the hardware fails, it will do so very soon after getting the wheel out of the box, if you've been riding yours for a month or two in varying conditions, the hardware is most likely just fine. Personally I've had a Firewheel mainboard die on me (likely the step-down circuitry failed and fried the MCU) and crashed due to a wrong kind of BMS cutting all power in downhill (my own fault as I didn't know better back then and the guy who built the batteries for me had never worked with devices having regenerative braking, on the other hand, it did point me to the path of starting to learn electronics, which I think is a good thing in the end, I now design my own circuits, and was recently hired to do some professional work in the field on the side of my actual day job ).
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