techyiam Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 3 hours ago, Whalesmash said: The concern is not with the pedal hanger, it's with that thin metal on the battery pack and the screw hole spacing. Yes, the screws and the pedal hanger distribute force, but they distribute force into four holes that are basically placed right in line next to each other and then placed really close to the edge of the battery pack. It's not a recipe for strength. I would not be worried that a pedal clip or something like that breaking it, I am more concerned that a sideways impact on the battery itself. If they used high quality metal for those cases, they can might get away with it, but given the track record of cheap chineseium, we'll have to hope for the best. I hope my concerns are unwarranted. I would have to disagree with your conclusion. The main support for the pedal hanger that clamps onto the stanchion is a chunky, solid block of aluminum alloy. The pedal hanger are fastened to the support block with 8 screws, with the bottom mounting flange of the battery pack being sandwiched. Exactly what stresses are you concerned about, shear, or tensile, and exactly where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whalesmash Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Yes, the battery pack is sandwiched. That does not change the fact that the holes drilled into the battery pack flange are really close together, and the flange is really thin. I raise this concern mostly because I've seen (and done it myself) multiple bent lower battery hangers on wheels like the master, ex30, and master pro, all of which have a solid metal bar of a 1/4" or 5/16" thickness. I guess this sort of failure has not yet occurred on an ET max yet, so maybe the concern is not such a big deal after all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 hour ago, Whalesmash said: Yes, the battery pack is sandwiched. That does not change the fact that the holes drilled into the battery pack flange are really close together, and the flange is really thin. I raise this concern mostly because I've seen (and done it myself) multiple bent lower battery hangers on wheels like the master, ex30, and master pro, all of which have a solid metal bar of a 1/4" or 5/16" thickness. I guess this sort of failure has not yet occurred on an ET max yet, so maybe the concern is not such a big deal after all. Ah. You are concerned with the battery packs themselves and how they are supported at the bottom. And how this would affect chassis ridgity too. As you know early on, the battery cases were even made from plastic. In the ET Max, Begode changed the design from securing the battery packs at the top and bottom locations, which required a bottom supporting bar, to the current design in which the packs are secured with fasteners at the top, and a much thinner flange along the inner side. The bottom inner flange is fastened to the pedal hanger supporting bracket, and upper remaining flange are tied together with a middle plastic panel to the other battery pack on the same side. Is this design strong or ridgid enough? We haven't really been hearing many complaints so far. And Wrongway is putting the Blitz through its paces. Time will tell, I suppose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Talon Posted September 25 Popular Post Share Posted September 25 (edited) Interesting take. https://youtu.be/50CwU-ouNfM?si=L7hgJVTb01CGbE4j Edited September 25 by Talon 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayzao Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Has anyone found a seat option for the Blitz? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Is there a typical spring shock that would fit on the Blitz if I wanted to try something else than the stock airshock? What dimension and load would I be looking for if so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayzao Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 What would you suggest for 'Pedal Turning Angle Adjustment' on the Begode Blitz? I have scraped the pedals more than a couple of times, initially due to low shock pressure, but possibly also due to a suboptimal setting for this parameter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayzao Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 On 9/25/2024 at 4:22 PM, Poker said: Is there a typical spring shock that would fit on the Blitz if I wanted to try something else than the stock airshock? What dimension and load would I be looking for if so? I have heard the shock can be pressurized to 275-300psi. I had issues under 200psi and now run 240psi, which is within the stated 250psi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUCzero Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 On 9/26/2024 at 12:22 AM, Poker said: Is there a typical spring shock that would fit on the Blitz if I wanted to try something else than the stock airshock? What dimension and load would I be looking for if so? Coil shocks (spring) ir more difficult to choose as the spring rate is depending on your weight as well as riding style. Typical for Masters running 300psi was to get a coil shock 1000-1250lbs/inch. But it is a different linkage, so hard to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Alright, fair enough. People seem happy with the air shock for now and it seem highly customizable. It would be nice to have a coil shock ready when I get a blitz but its definitely no rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUCzero Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 When its time for coil, you probably want to change to a more progressive linkage as well. Linear coils don't work that well with Begode linkages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fbhb Posted September 28 Popular Post Share Posted September 28 18 minutes ago, EUCzero said: When its time for coil, you probably want to change to a more progressive linkage as well. Linear coils don't work that well with Begode linkages. Very good and accurate advice regarding their linkages. Thankfully, @Vince.Fab "the linkage maestro" has already got a Blitz prototype linkage out in the wild, currently undergoing testing! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vince.Fab Posted September 30 Popular Post Share Posted September 30 Brian in Cali has one, running a fox coil with all the adjustability and 400-450# spring as well. I'm shipping out the second prototype set to Bentonville so another gentleman can upgrade his Blitz for the dirt, same shock setup. Very excited for the feedback! These are HD versions that are stronger at the expense of more machining. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Hatfield Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 does a Blitz tire change video exist? Looking for video with fully assembled wheel - tire change with least amount of disassembly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 2 hours ago, Ben Hatfield said: does a Blitz tire change video exist? Looking for video with fully assembled wheel - tire change with least amount of disassembly Can't help you there. But this Begode Blitz teardown video may give you some ideas? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 2 hours ago, Ben Hatfield said: does a Blitz tire change video exist? Looking for video with fully assembled wheel - tire change with least amount of disassembly you need to disassemble only the right side, the one with the motor cable and you're done, same process since the master release (no need to disconnect anything) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheelkoregro Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 19 hours ago, Ben Hatfield said: does a Blitz tire change video exist? Looking for video with fully assembled wheel - tire change with least amount of disassembly There is a short on YT that explains how to do it by showing the bolts you need to remove but as far as a whole tire change video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Julianjc84 Posted October 2 Popular Post Share Posted October 2 (edited) With the help of some good internet friends here are some accurate Blitz linkage information and suspension movements. What you are sold on spec sheets and what you 'get' with the product seems to be very different. Measurements are for both the open and closed states. Depending on how much compression of the 9mm rubbers +- 5mm Top Hole 107mm Travel (spacer removed) open 211 mm closed 162 mm stroke 49 mm Top Hole 85mm Travel open 202 mm closed 162 mm stroke 40 mm Bottom Hole 107mm Travel (spacer removed) open 203 mm closed 163 mm stroke 40 mm Bottom Hole 85mm Travel open 195 mm closed 163 mm stroke 32 mm I would also like to be corrected if any of this information is incorrect. blitz210.mp4 Edited October 2 by Julianjc84 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 28 minutes ago, Julianjc84 said: With the help of some good internet friends here are some accurate Blitz linkage information and suspension movements. What you are sold on spec sheets and what you 'get' with the product seems to be very different. Measurements are for both the open and closed states. Depending on how much compression of the 9mm rubbers +- 5mm Top Hole 107mm Travel (spacer removed) open 211 mm closed 162 mm stroke 49 mm Top Hole 85mm Travel open 202 mm closed 162 mm stroke 40 mm Bottom Hole 107mm Travel (spacer removed) open 203 mm closed 163 mm stroke 40 mm Bottom Hole 85mm Travel open 195 mm closed 163 mm stroke 32 mm I would also like to be corrected if any of this information is incorrect. blitz210.mp4 3.75 MB · 0 downloads Well well, I'm not surprised. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizra6ot Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 This is the Chinese size chart as for clothing XXXL = L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 11 hours ago, Julianjc84 said: With the help of some good internet friends here are some accurate Blitz linkage information and suspension movements. What you are sold on spec sheets and what you 'get' with the product seems to be very different. Measurements are for both the open and closed states. Depending on how much compression of the 9mm rubbers +- 5mm Top Hole 107mm Travel (spacer removed) open 211 mm closed 162 mm stroke 49 mm Top Hole 85mm Travel open 202 mm closed 162 mm stroke 40 mm Bottom Hole 107mm Travel (spacer removed) open 203 mm closed 163 mm stroke 40 mm Bottom Hole 85mm Travel open 195 mm closed 163 mm stroke 32 mm I would also like to be corrected if any of this information is incorrect. blitz210.mp4 3.75 MB · 0 downloads I was curious and looked at the Blitz spec sheet that comes with the wheel. I don't see any numbers for suspension travel. So how is Begode being misleading in what they are delivering? Maybe there's another "official" spec sheet that I haven't seen? At the end of the day, rather then playing gotcha (I'm guilty of this too), just enjoy the wheel. It feels great going off very large street curbs. I'm sure it's fine for 98% of the riders out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julianjc84 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Marty Backe said: I was curious and looked at the Blitz spec sheet that comes with the wheel. I don't see any numbers for suspension travel. So how is Begode being misleading in what they are delivering? Maybe there's another "official" spec sheet that I haven't seen? At the end of the day, rather then playing gotcha (I'm guilty of this too), just enjoy the wheel. It feels great going off very large street curbs. I'm sure it's fine for 98% of the riders out there. Everyone has been throwing around 100 adjustable to 130 Maybe these are some of the origins.? Edited October 2 by Julianjc84 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) 7 hours ago, Marty Backe said: I was curious and looked at the Blitz spec sheet that comes with the wheel. I don't see any numbers for suspension travel. So how is Begode being misleading in what they are delivering? Maybe there's another "official" spec sheet that I haven't seen? At the end of the day, rather then playing gotcha (I'm guilty of this too), just enjoy the wheel. It feels great going off very large street curbs. I'm sure it's fine for 98% of the riders out there. Are you trying to gaslight all of us @Marty Backe? 😂 Just look at the first 2 pages, there is a spec sheet with this information and then on page 2 there is marketing material with the exact same information and I'll be damned if that same information wasn't in their first marketing video and I'm too lazy to check for you might even be something that Kebye said in their presentation disassembly video. Also it is super weird of them to pad the numbers like that, 107 (or 110mm lets be generous) is still 20mm more than LeaperKim wheels, so why the need to pad it further?? Edited October 3 by Rawnei 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 For comparison, anyone remember what the real travel of the extreme was? Was advertised as 150mm afaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 hour ago, Rawnei said: Are you trying to gaslight all of us @Marty Backe? 😂 Just look at the first 2 pages, there is a spec sheet with this information and then on page 2 there is marketing material with the exact same information and I'll be damned if that same information wasn't in their first marketing video and I'm too lazy to check for you might even be something that Kebye said in their presentation disassembly video. Also it is super weird of them to pad the numbers like that, 107 (or 110mm lets be generous) is still 20mm more than LeaperKim wheels, so why the need to pad it further?? Not trying to gaslight anyone on purpose I was open to be corrected, and you guys corrected me I wonder if they took into account the small rubber bumpers (at least another 5mm) at the bottom of the suspension when performing these measurements? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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