Veteran Patton 16" 126v 2220wh

[techyiam]

24 minutes ago, jimjam.nyc said:

To be honest the whole you need to go 50mph to be safe in nyc streets is kind of bs. Traffic here doesn't move that fast.

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I see so many v12s and Nicolas around here so I think patton will be even better.

I feel like suspension is the game changer for cities as the streets are garbage. 

Good to know. Then, the Patton could be great for fast NYC commuting. The 90 lbs helps to steady the wheel when going over crazy bad bumps or potholes. And its suspension is great for absorbing impacts. Yet, it is agile and torquey. 

Having said that, you may be able to tell us all about it as soon as today. 

Edited June 13, 2023 by techyiam

[Ronin]

3 hours ago, techyiam said:

In above Ronin video where two riders were given a Patton to test out on the streets of NYC, the latter rider made a remark that he didn't see much of a point of going to a larger wheel like the V13 because even with a 16" wheel, the suspension will take out most of the negative effects of hitting bumps and potholes. However, is the Patton stable enough for commuting in NYC street traffic at speeds that will keep up with cars? 

That rider is @houseofjob, maybe he could develop more here? The patton is indeed perfect for riding comfortably sub 40-43mph with headroom.

Edited June 13, 2023 by Ronin Ryder

[jmsjms]

What is the knee- and shin-guard protection on the guy in the skateboard park?

[buffs]

9 hours ago, jimjam.nyc said:

I don't have faith mine will be here today. It's not out for delivery yet! Usually that means no go!

It's OK just sucks weather will be not so good tonorrow

I received my Patton from eWheels yesterday, but couldn't ride due to rainy weather. I just returned from a short (10 mile) inaugural ride. Wow, this wheel is awesome!  I had been riding a T4 (v1) which was one of the most fun wheels I'd ever had. The T4 is zippy and nimble.  The Patton has much easier and stronger acceleration. It feels a bit less nimble, but that could be me getting used to it and the difference in tires. It is very well balanced and the extra weight isn't even noticeable while riding. I had originally ordered it with a street tire, but those weren't available in the first batch. I decided I'd rather have it sooner than wait, so I rolled the dice on the knobby. It's very nice! Every wheel I've owned had a street tire, except for the S22. I didn't enjoy that knobby as it would give me the feeling of falling over on slow sharp turns. The knobby on the Patton feels more like a street tire when turning. It does make quite a bit of noise, which I'm finding helpful, as people can hear me coming without spooking them with a silent approach like the T4. Build quality isn't even close between the wheels. I installed the Sherman S pads that eWheels provided for free - thanks Jason! The large front pad is a bit too tall and can't be placed low enough because it runs into the top of the jump clips. It still works fine, even though part of the pad extends above the top of the battery compartment. I'm going to use these for a while before I look at something else. They were comfortable and worked well today. The 62lb suspension felt a bit stiff for the first couple of miles (less cushy than my T4) but after lowering the compression, it felt really good. I didn't play with the rebound damping. The T4 never felt comfortable for me above 30ish mph, but the Patton was totally different. I could effortlessly get up to 35 without even trying, and it was comfortable. So far, this wheel is a winner. Two thumbs up!

[Paradox]

7 minutes ago, buffs said:

The 62lb suspension felt a bit stiff for the first couple of miles (less cushy than my T4) but after lowering the compression, it felt really good.

What is your riding weight?  Do you feel the 62lb adequate or would the 66lb shock be better if more widely available?

Edited June 14, 2023 by Paradox

[buffs]

2 minutes ago, Paradox said:

What is your riding weight?  Do you feel the 62lb adequate or would the 66lb shock be better if more widely available?

I'm 150lbs, plus whatever the normal safety gear weighs. I'm more of a cruiser, not a jumper or hard off-road rider. If you are bigger or more aggressive, then I would suggest the 66lb. I wanted the most comfortable ride, and the 62lb seems to work for me.

[Rollin-on-1]

37 minutes ago, buffs said:

I installed the Sherman S pads that eWheels provided for free - thanks Jason! The large front pad is a bit too tall and can't be placed low enough because it runs into the top of the jump clips. It still works fine, even though part of the pad extends above the top of the battery compartment. I'm going to use these for a while before I look at something else.

Great first impressions review.  Thanks for sharing.  The ship with my Patton arrived in port today, so I hope to be riding mine in another week or so.  With the Sherman-S pads, I'm going to try the "front" pad as a brake pad and use the smaller pad as the front pad.  I think setting them up that way could work well.  Hopefully using the big pad on the back will provide a heel block that will reduce the chances of reversing the wheel rotation on jumps.  

Glad you are enjoying it so far!!

[slippyfeet]

11 hours ago, jimjam.nyc said:

I honestly am not sure yet. I usually ride without pads for a few days, then figure it out. I thought about using them backwards. Smaller pad in front bigger pad for brake.. but will have to see.

May wind up just getting different pads or using none at all. Which is the setup I use for my v12. I just ditched the pads except for a foot lock.

This is my personal gripe as I too only ride my wheels stock out of the box. If LK does an adjustable rear pad like they did with the toe hook, I'd be willing to try that iteration but for now it's a pass for me as I despise Velcro and having to line up multiple pads

[Rollin-on-1]

10 minutes ago, slippyfeet said:

This is my personal gripe as I too only ride my wheels stock out of the box. If LK does an adjustable rear pad like they did with the toe hook, I'd be willing to try that iteration but for now it's a pass for me as I despise Velcro and having to line up multiple pads

I'm sure CP, Nylonove, and Grizzla are already prototyping a replacement kickstand with adjustable heel block.  It should be interesting to see what accessories come out.

[fbhb]

12 hours ago, Ronin Ryder said:

That rider is @houseofjob, maybe he could develop more here? The patton is indeed perfect for riding comfortably sub 40-43mph with headroom.

Great to see @houseofjob on film (a feat in itself no doubt!). Takes me back to the "old school" days of EUC! Thanks for his inclusion, I have always liked and had respect for Chris's unique take, incite and knowledge of EUC's over the years.

[carlitos]

Some people have been posting pics of their Patton with a headlight mod to prevent blinding incoming traffic and I found the link to the 3D printable files

https://www.printables.com/model/470270-sherman-s-titan-armor-headlight-mask-wip

[jimjam.nyc]

Well.. I recieved my Patton today and its pouring out right now :-)

Quick Thoughts just taking it out of the box and checking it out. Its bigger than i expected, and smaller than i expected at the same time. Not sure if that makes sense, but its hard to explain. Its quite dense coming from a v12, but feels seriously solid. 

I am 128lbs right now and I have the 58lb spring. I resisted the pressure to up the spring rate from all the reviews and impressions. I wont be riding trails or doing too many huge drops and steps and stuff like that. Just standing on the wheel out of the box. The Suspension does not Sag much with my 128lbs on it. I can compress it by trying, but seems like it will be pretty good for my NYC street riding. I am almost positive I can bottom it out on the streets over here, but feel like I may be happy with my choice of spring for my riding style. 

No comment about the charge port placement with the front bar. It straight up sucks to plug this in. Leaper Kim really should have raised that bar a bit. Seems like a real no brainer.  

 I do feel like with my short height the edge of the EUC will bother my legs in the beginning. I am already feeling that, but to be fair that has happened with almost all of my wheels when I upgraded. I feel confident once i get acclimated it will be totally fine. Plus i am coming from the top heavyish v12, where by habbit i lean the EUC into my leg. I think once I break the habbit since the patton is quite a bit more planted I may not have an issue. 

So far other than those small complaints I dont see anything too wrong out of the box. Hopefully I can at least test ride this thing a little later. 

 

 

[Clem604]

10 minutes ago, jimjam.nyc said:

Well.. I recieved my Patton today and its pouring out right now :-)

Quick Thoughts just taking it out of the box and checking it out. Its bigger than i expected, and smaller than i expected at the same time. Not sure if that makes sense, but its hard to explain. Its quite dense coming from a v12, but feels seriously solid. 

I am 128lbs right now and I have the 58lb spring. I resisted the pressure to up the spring rate from all the reviews and impressions. I wont be riding trails or doing too many huge drops and steps and stuff like that. Just standing on the wheel out of the box. The Suspension does not Sag much with my 128lbs on it. I can compress it by trying, but seems like it will be pretty good for my NYC street riding. I am almost positive I can bottom it out on the streets over here, but feel like I may be happy with my choice of spring for my riding style. 

No comment about the charge port placement with the front bar. It straight up sucks to plug this in. Leaper Kim really should have raised that bar a bit. Seems like a real no brainer.  

 I do feel like with my short height the edge of the EUC will bother my legs in the beginning. I am already feeling that, but to be fair that has happened with almost all of my wheels when I upgraded. 

You can grab the seat and side leg pads that will help with this. I have the Sherman S version of the pads on my wheel and they make it much more comfortable to ride and it's on sale!

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKqYI96

Edited June 14, 2023 by Clem604

[techyiam]

45 minutes ago, jimjam.nyc said:

The Suspension does not Sag much with my 128lbs on it. I can compress it by trying, but seems like it will be pretty good for my NYC street riding. I am almost positive I can bottom it out on the streets over here, but feel like I may be happy with my choice of spring for my riding style. 

That is good to hear that your chosen spring rate may work out.

Should you bottom out under normal usage, you can trade off some cushiness to help out with the bottoming by playing with the preload and compression damping.

[Poker]

@jimjam.nyc Whats the Patton like starting up the first time? Do you need to plug in the charger to get it out of transport mode or something? 

When I get mine I'm picking it up quite far away and I was hoping I could just unpack it on the street and roll home

[jimjam.nyc]

1 hour ago, Poker said:

@jimjam.nyc Whats the Patton like starting up the first time? Do you need to plug in the charger to get it out of transport mode or something? 

When I get mine I'm picking it up quite far away and I was hoping I could just unpack it on the street and roll home

You need to plug it in to turn off transport mode I believe. It came almost fully charged, so if you can plug it in for a sec, you should be good to go

[Poker]

Thank you, also congrats on the new wheel! hope there's no rain tomorrow for you

[Hellkitten]

2 hours ago, Poker said:

@jimjam.nyc Whats the Patton like starting up the first time? Do you need to plug in the charger to get it out of transport mode or something? 

When I get mine I'm picking it up quite far away and I was hoping I could just unpack it on the street and roll home

I had to plug the charger into my Sherman when I grabbed it. I’d assume it’s the same for the patton as it’s the same company. 

[Rollin-on-1]

@jimjam.nyc can you post a pic of the pads that you got with the Patton?  Were they the Sherman S pads or Patton pads?

[jimjam.nyc]

2 hours ago, Rollin-on-1 said:

@jimjam.nyc can you post a pic of the pads that you got with the Patton?  Were they the Sherman S pads or Patton pads?

@Rollin-on-1 Sorry so late to respond. I was able to get out there since the weather cleared up. Ewheels sent the sherman S pads. If you still need a pic i can post it. Let me know. 

I didnt put them on. Been riding without pads so far which is my usual setup. 

[Rollin-on-1]

2 minutes ago, jimjam.nyc said:

 

I didnt put them on. Been riding without pads so far which is my usual setup. 

Cool.  No need to send a pic of the pads themselves...I was curious to see them on the side of the wheel.  Sorry if I overlooked or forgot that you weren't planning on using the pads.  

I look forward to hearing more about your experience with the 58lb springs.  I hope they treat you well!  I'll be living vicariously through you guys for the next week or so!

 

 

 

[jimjam.nyc]

16 minutes ago, Rollin-on-1 said:

Cool.  No need to send a pic of the pads themselves...I was curious to see them on the side of the wheel.  Sorry if I overlooked or forgot that you weren't planning on using the pads.  

I look forward to hearing more about your experience with the 58lb springs.  I hope they treat you well!  I'll be living vicariously through you guys for the next week or so!

 

 

 

@Rollin-on-1 Here ya go. I put the velcro on so it was easy enough to attach them real quick so you can see. Sorry the wheel is on the kickstand.. hopefully you can get a feel for how they fit. I believe this is backwards with the brake pad in front.. I am not sure.. But it fits nicely like this.. Just not much room for adjustment. 

 

The 58lb spring is great for me so far. At 128lbs the springs dont move much when i get on the wheel. I dont ride all crazy like, so I think for normal riders the springs rate for their weight will be good. If you are going to send it or do lots of steps and drops, I think the heaviest spring is probably a good bet. 

There is a decent amount of adjustment with the suspension available. So for the small amount of street riding i did, at 130-135lbs geared up, so far I actually am happy with the 58lb spring. I will need to get some more time on the wheel to know for sure. 

Coming from the v12HS. There is some getting used to how wide and heavy the wheel is when mounting and dismounting.. But while riding it is very fun and easy to control with no issues at all.. 

 

Edit: Honestly my biggest gripe is that damn charge port so far. LOL Its dumb. The good news is all of those parts are replaceable.. So hopefully there will be some replacements available for the bars and foot locks, etc. I am excited to see what kind of accessories people come up with. I am usually not one to put stuff on my wheel. but the way Leaper Kim made this wheel, it makes me excited to see what people come up with. 

 

Edited June 15, 2023 by jimjam.nyc

[stizl]

23 minutes ago, jimjam.nyc said:

@Rollin-on-1 Here ya go. I put the velcro on so it was easy enough to attach them real quick so you can see. Sorry the wheel is on the kickstand.. hopefully you can get a feel for how they fit. I believe this is backwards with the brake pad in front.. I am not sure.. But it fits nicely like this.. Just not much room for adjustment. 

 

The 58lb spring is great for me so far. At 128lbs the springs dont move much when i get on the wheel. I dont ride all crazy like, so I think for normal riders the springs rate for their weight will be good. If you are going to send it or do lots of steps and drops, I think the heaviest spring is probably a good bet. 

There is a decent amount of adjustment with the suspension available. So for the small amount of street riding i did, at 130-135lbs geared up, so far I actually am happy with the 58lb spring. I will need to get some more time on the wheel to know for sure. 

Coming from the v12HS. There is some getting used to how wide and heavy the wheel is when mounting and dismounting.. But while riding it is very fun and easy to control with no issues at all.. 

 

Edit: Honestly my biggest gripe is that damn charge port so far. LOL Its dumb. The good news is all of those parts are replaceable.. So hopefully there will be some replacements available for the bars and foot locks, etc. I am excited to see what kind of accessories people come up with. I am usually not one to put stuff on my wheel. but the way Leaper Kim made this wheel, it makes me excited to see what people come up with. 

 

Those Sherman-S pads look and fit better on the Patton than I expected. Thanks for sharing!

[Rollin-on-1]

20 minutes ago, jimjam.nyc said:

@Rollin-on-1 Here ya go. I put the velcro on so it was easy enough to attach them real quick so you can see. Sorry the wheel is on the kickstand.. hopefully you can get a feel for how they fit. I believe this is backwards with the brake pad in front.. I am not sure.. But it fits nicely like this.. Just not much room for adjustment. 

 

The 58lb spring is great for me so far. At 128lbs the springs dont move much when i get on the wheel. I dont ride all crazy like, so I think for normal riders the springs rate for their weight will be good. If you are going to send it or do lots of steps and drops, I think the heaviest spring is probably a good bet. 

There is a decent amount of adjustment with the suspension available. So for the small amount of street riding i did, at 130-135lbs geared up, so far I actually am happy with the 58lb spring. I will need to get some more time on the wheel to know for sure. 

Coming from the v12HS. There is some getting used to how wide and heavy the wheel is when mounting and dismounting.. But while riding it is very fun and easy to control with no issues at all.. 

 

Edit: Honestly my biggest gripe is that damn charge port so far. LOL Its dumb. The good news is all of those parts are replaceable.. So hopefully there will be some replacements available for the bars and foot locks, etc. I am excited to see what kind of accessories people come up with. I am usually not one to put stuff on my wheel. but the way Leaper Kim made this wheel, it makes me excited to see what people come up with. 

 

Thanks for sharing the pic!  This is how I expect to place the pads as well.  It looks like it should work well.  I like the idea of having a brake pad that also serves as a heel block.  The color of the stickers look better than I expected too.

Glad to hear that you are happy with it (aside from the charge port access). 

I look forward to hearing more of your thoughts as you rack up more miles and continue to adjust to it.  Can't wait to go through the process myself!

[jimjam.nyc]

Not sure if this interests any of you. But here is a pic side by side with the v12 to try and show size comparison. I wanted to lean them both upgright somewhere.. but i just dont have a spot right now to do that.