novazeus Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 bittersweet victory. i just installed the 900 pound spring on the real pro with the 90 michelin, and of course i like it. now i have to spend $90 more for the diy pro. btw, naked i’m probably 170 now. maybe 15 pounds of armor. and i just rode part of my path. the 900 pound spring doesn’t bottom out. makes the sugar sand patches less squirrelly. u can feel everything, but not in a bad way, a sports car way. definitely needed for my raw earth non road, non trail, paths. definitely less cushy but for raw earth, i don’t want mama’s station wagon suspension. makes the wheel less forgiving but more carvy/control. i’d go 900 if i was racing on pavement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 9 hours ago, novazeus said: bittersweet victory. i just installed the 900 pound spring on the real pro with the 90 michelin, and of course i like it. now i have to spend $90 more for the diy pro. btw, naked i’m probably 170 now. maybe 15 pounds of armor. and i just rode part of my path. the 900 pound spring doesn’t bottom out. makes the sugar sand patches less squirrelly. u can feel everything, but not in a bad way, a sports car way. definitely needed for my raw earth non road, non trail, paths. definitely less cushy but for raw earth, i don’t want mama’s station wagon suspension. makes the wheel less forgiving but more carvy/control. i’d go 900 if i was racing on pavement. What are you doing causing your 750lb spring to bottom out? I ride around with 630lb sprindex no bottoming out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) if u ride on raw earth instead of man made roads, trails, multiuse paths. sidewalks etc, u will find unseem holes made by whatever, and the wheel will bottom out. not with the 900. next time ur riding “off road”, actually get off the trail and go on virgin earth and lmk how it goes. if u want to experience somewhat "offroad", because all of u ride on better roads and trails than we had here my first ten years of life, next time ur traveling down a road, head over to the grass right of way and see what that is like. nobody is grooming trails out here for me. i don't have the govt making trails/roads for me. find a nice rancher with cows, ask him nicely if u can try to ride in his pastures. he'll probably let u attempt it for laughs. and there's more benefit in a stiffer suspension, other than bottoming out. like i don't think gm was worrying about bottoming out a zo6 corvette with it's stiff suspension. there's also handling which i mentioned as well. i have two ks s22 pro's now for all practical purposes, one with stock 750, and now the 900. same mowed path(i only mow and roll the path so hopefully i can see it, paint would suit me fine as well, there are holes here that have swallowed my jeep)so it's not hard to figure out which i like best. most forum members like softer tires and softer suspensions for their terrain, but none of them are traveling across raw land. i might be able to tune the 750 pound suspension with the shock and damper settings, but i haven't tried that yet, much. i did try stiffening the shock a bit and it still bottomed out in spots. not my intentions, but occasionally i'm catching air unannounced. i can only see where i should stay on my mown path, and there's still holes in it. hard to explain to somebody that's never seen raw earth. i have vicious tape over the spikes on all my wheels and it's barely enough with my choice of footwear. the holes and limbs are hidden. the wood laying around is more worrying to me because u could impale urself, the holes are unavoidable. when i hit one, i try to remember where it was and veer to the other side.m btw, the v13 at 200psi, bottoms out too, but not as bad as it did at 175. so i'm gonna rachet up one of them today to 220 and try it. raw earth looking south, nbd. same spot looking north, might ruin ur day. these are the anomalies u might find on non man made trails or roads. hidden dangers. no signs erected by the nanny state. Edited February 9 by novazeus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, novazeus said: if u ride on raw earth instead of man made roads, trails, multiuse paths. sidewalks etc, u will find unseem holes made by whatever, and the wheel will bottom out. not with the 900. next time ur riding “off road”, actually get off the trail and go on virgin earth and lmk how it goes. if u want to experience somewhat "offroad", because all of u ride on better roads and trails than we had here my first ten years of life, next time ur traveling down a road, head over to the grass right of way and see what that is like. nobody is grooming trails out here for me. i don't have the govt making trails/roads for me. find a nice rancher with cows, ask him nicely if u can try to ride in his pastures. he'll probably let u attempt it for laughs. and there's more benefit in a stiffer suspension, other than bottoming out. like i don't think gm was worrying about bottoming out a zo6 corvette with it's stiff suspension. there's also handling which i mentioned as well. i have two ks s22 pro's now for all practical purposes, one with stock 750, and now the 900. same mowed path(i only mow and roll the path so hopefully i can see it, paint would suit me fine as well, there are holes here that have swallowed my jeep)so it's not hard to figure out which i like best. most forum members like softer tires and softer suspensions for their terrain, but none of them are traveling across raw land. i might be able to tune the 750 pound suspension with the shock and damper settings, but i haven't tried that yet, much. i did try stiffening the shock a bit and it still bottomed out in spots. not my intentions, but occasionally i'm catching air unannounced. i can only see where i should stay on my mown path, and there's still holes in it. hard to explain to somebody that's never seen raw earth. i have vicious tape over the spikes on all my wheels and it's barely enough with my choice of footwear. the holes and limbs are hidden. the wood laying around is more worrying to me because u could impale urself, the holes are unavoidable. when i hit one, i try to remember where it was and veer to the other side.m btw, the v13 at 200psi, bottoms out too, but not as bad as it did at 175. so i'm gonna rachet up one of them today to 220 and try it. raw earth looking south, nbd. same spot looking north, might ruin ur day. these are the anomalies u might find on non man made trails or roads. hidden dangers. no signs erected by the nanny state. Well I ride on black mountainbike trails and jump in the skate-park and don't really hard bottom out, riding weight over 105kg. 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 minutes ago, Rawnei said: Well I ride on black mountainbike trails and jump in the skate-park and don't really hard bottom out, riding weight over 105kg. 😅 yeah, those are man made trails and roads. u know how when u ride ur eyes "pick a line", i have none of that truly riding "off road". off road to me, means nobody has made a road, path, trail, sidewalk, etc etc etc. riding on my 325 acre ranch, there are no trails, roads, etc. when i ride out here, my eyes are fervently scanning for where i mowed and rolled because the land mines off this mowed path would be deadly. so when i ride, certain spots i'm looking hundreds of yards away to try and stay on the path. in the shadows it's impossible to see. plus, taking 500mg of thc three times a day, i'm pretty much blind anyway. i ride by feel, that's why i prefer hard tires and stiff suspension, same as the corvettes i use to own. i took down marking spray paint with me to mark some of the jaw breaking holes. ideally, i'd like all inline skating type multiuse paths in here that a 9bs2 would be perfect. i did site acquisition for wireless in texas. one of the ranches was the 4 6, 110,000 acres. i'm pretty sure that land was raw. they used horses. i used to use horses here, but a wheel won't get out on the road and get hit by a speeding driver that sues u. haha, u should see where i use to go on my ktm 525 exc i regeared down and added a fan to so i could "trail" ride. it's the ultimate for gnarly raw earth traveling, but the handlebars can snag stuff. there's places here, i'll take some pictures, if u tried on a wheel, the next trip would be the hospital. i wouldn't even attempt what i use to do because i have no back up out here. i fall and i become coyote and buzzard food. there's no govt nanny out here for me. i did a great high res video yesterday comparing the s22 to the v13, but can't upload it, can't even airdrop it to my ipad. anyway, today i'm gonna do a back to back again at low res like i did before, without any music. u can really hear the suspension working. suspension is such a subjective thing. what i like, might be too stiff for u, that's why i like the ankle cam. i wish somebody with a lynx and a v14 would strap on a phone like i did and find a pasture to ride across. or some other washboard surfce like u city dwellers have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 my terrain. Bob and i had to retrieve packages. the best way to delineate on road and off road is this picture of my road. look to the sides. that is off road and even it has been maintained a little. this is where i ride out to the pastures. typical stuff real "offroad", and this is easily avoidable, it's these deep holes camouflaged by grass that would literally eat a v14 or a patton. probably why the v13 does the best suspension wise because of tire size and diameter. the knobbies on the v13's dropped down to 35 psi works the best for real offroad and is enough pressure for my short trips on road. 95% of my riding now will be raw earth for the next year or so, and then i'll start building multiuse paths that a non-suspension wheel would work fine on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) here ya go, even has a trail next to it. near stockholm. find the owner and see if they'll let u kill urself. marty and roger are crazy, but they can see their line. out here it's the landmines(holes) that could be instant death, why i mark them with paint on my mowed paths. https://earth.app.goo.gl/Jbr9Aq Edited February 9 by novazeus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 i just got another s22 pro yesterday from jason. and they sent me the circuit board with the charge ports to change out. has anybody else done this? first i had heard of this problem, but i didn't start studying wheels after my fire until 12-22. bruce at ewheels says king song did this because of charger problems so they added a resistor. nbd to change out, but my two old wheels need it too according to bruce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 not suggesting this because if u hurt urself i don't want to be held responsible, but when ur dumpster is half a mile away, u gotta get creative or waste lots of diesel fuel. just gotta learn how to back up. i love my new lynx for raw land, but with it's factory knobby, i won't ride it on pavement. just far enough and slow enough to get out to my pastures. i use this 120% factor for braking on pavement like i read in this motorcycle article talking about forces on the front tire during braking, and as u know, that's where most of ur braking force is, so they say, if ur total load is say 600 pounds, and the front tire is rated for 400 pounds, half of 600 is 300, because it is two wheeled, and 120% of 300 is 360pounds, 40 pound safety margin for braking at max cold psi. that's my theory and how i ride. i just put my original diy s22 pro's michelin pilot street 2 80/90 r14 back up to 45psi, and it's perfect. i had lowered the pressure for pasture work but this wheel is the best for dragging my wagon. this is how i wrap my legs because they get bruised the most. the hitch on the kickstand works well yeah, the old girl with new motor and suspension is a wonderful wheel, just the lynx is better at slow pasture riding. it's like when i was a little kid trying to ride a bicycle out there, u might get to a point where u need to step on it pedal wise, and with the s22 and v13 the power delivery isn't quick or strong enough nfor the wheel offroad. power to weight ratio at a standstill. i had to completely re-gear my ktm 525 exc to make it suitable out here. and install a fan. what i needed was a trials motorcycle. too late now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 On 3/2/2024 at 10:32 PM, novazeus said: i just got another s22 pro yesterday from jason. and they sent me the circuit board with the charge ports to change out. has anybody else done this? first i had heard of this problem, but i didn't start studying wheels after my fire until 12-22. bruce at ewheels says king song did this because of charger problems so they added a resistor. nbd to change out, but my two old wheels need it too according to bruce. My early batch stock controller and charge board has been working flawlessly, haven't heard of this before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 here's my early edition amateur redux. does just fine with the hh4000 motor and slider upgrades king song sent. michelin 80/90 r14 at 44psi. does not need to be that high, i just forgot to lower it. so take that into account plus i had just taken my afternoon dose of 500mg of thc. but looking back, haha, that may have helped fishtailing thru the sugar sand. it does great, i love this wheel. works as good if not better than a lynx.https://youtu.be/w-_3x9hXxtA?si=x4Lb52ZD6pFu3OFM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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