MCM5 V2 knobby options?

[Scottie888]

Hey guys, I just ordered the MCM5 V2 for use a my primary winter wheel. Being that, a knobby would seem more ideal than the standard road tire. Anyone has done such & have experience with knobbies that will fit?

Would this fit?- https://www.amazon.ca/Wingsmoto-2-50x10-Knobby-2-5-10-SDG107/dp/B07JMSQ6SM/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=motorcycle+tire+250+-+10+10x2.5&qid=1608332206&sr=8-6

Thanks

Edited December 19, 2020 by Scottie888

[RetroThruster]

I'd say it would work but I have no experience with it, I looked at the clearance between my tire and shell on my V2 and it looks to be around 3-4mm on each side, the side knobs don't stick out much on the one you picked out so that will help, plus with that generous lug spacing, it should do a good job at self cleaning, wish I had experience with it, it looks like a good candidate.

[houseofjob]

No clue, but you might wanna investigate real tires, not cheap Chinese ones, considering there are a bunch of legit options at that size. Plus, BikeBandit will answer questions on real outer diameter; my 3" MCM5 mod required quite a bit of cutting the undershell edges with a Bridgestone HOOP measuring a true 15.5"-ish outer diameter, just about at the limit of free spin. Either way, you'll probably need to Dremel off a little under-shell, as the lower corners of the MCM5 undershell (not so much the top) tend to catch on bigger tire diameters.

https://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tubes/2-50-10-dirt-bike-tires/t11cg8fn

https://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tubes/2-75-10-dirt-bike-tires/t11w0mm3

[btl]

Since i love the CST C-186 ("the Sherman tire") on my MSX, i did order a CST C-183A in 2.50-10 size for my newly arrived MCM5 V2. I'll mount it as soon it arrives and report.

[Scottie888]

25 minutes ago, btl said:

Since i love the CST C-186 ("the Sherman tire") on my MSX, i did order a CST C-183A in 2.50-10 size for my newly arrived MCM5 V2. I'll mount it as soon it arrives and report.

All right! Please let us know how that goes. IIRC the Sherm knobby has decently thick rubber on the knobs so it might be good enough to screw in some studs for real ice riding.

[SorenStarr]

I've seen videos with people running this tire on 16 inch wheels like the V8 in this video. 

 

These are also available in 14inch×2.125in. https://www.bmxguru.com/products/14-x-2-125-comp-iii-all-white-bmx-tire-by-kenda

What do you guys think?? It seems cheap and might be a good fit.

 

[btl]

Alright, here we go:

 

i had to remove 3mm of material of the inner shell front and rear: before

and after rework:

As soon the tire was properly aligned on its rim, no scrubbing whatsoever.

Race on!

[Scottie888]

@btl that's a sweet setup. I'm gonna do that on my M5. Not sure I can get the CST tires here but I'll put knobbies of some kind. I've no doubt it'll do great offroad so let us know how it handles on streets v the ori tires. Thanks bud.

[btl]

Its for sure not as smooth on tarmack ! :-D

Edited January 13, 2021 by btl

[btl]

Here come my first riding impressions: on tarmack, its humming like a swarm of mutant killer bees, what was to be expected.

On gravel, gras, sand paths even if soaky wet and muddy, traction is just unbelievable better than the stock tire, like cheating!

When it comes to turning, different story. There is much less gyro effect which the rider has to adapt to. Also i think that might change when the knobbies wear down in the middle over time. Also, i need to play with different pressures. 35 psi felt too hard, and the wheel was very twitchy. 25psi felt better for control ability, but for me as a 100kg rider i just think its too low. I'll give the tire at least 200km before a final judgement, but if handling doesn't improve (or i in fact totally adapt to the new handling), i'll switch to another tire or back to stock for summer.

 

Stay safe and keep riding,

Stefan

Edited January 13, 2021 by btl

[Elimc32]

Here's the cheap wings motor tire installed. It is amazing to say the least. Absolutely 0 modification needed. RIP fingers.

[SorenStarr]

On 1/13/2021 at 3:13 AM, btl said:

I'll give the tire at least 200km before a final judgement

Any updates? Thinking about swapping over to a knobby on the mcm5v2 and making it an offroad beast but I'm not sure if I want to sacrifice a pleasant road riding experience. If you wear down the tire does the gyro effect come back?

[Scottie888]

1 hour ago, SorenStarr said:

Thinking about swapping over to a knobby on the mcm5v2 and making it an offroad beast but I'm not sure if I want to sacrifice a pleasant road riding experience.

If you're gonna slap on an offroad dirt knobby, then for sure road riding will suffer, likely very squishy loosey in the turns. Both best of both but master of none, look for dual sport like the Kenda 262 (Sherman's tire), CST C186, Shinko SR241/244 &or Duro HF307.

Unfortunately, dual sport knobbies are hard to find to fit the MCM5v2. The Wingmoto shown in the pic looks more like a dirt knob. 

[SorenStarr]

Put this knobby on and its feeling pretty good! Eats up the grass like it's nothing. I did thin the edges of the inside shell just a little bit. 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08YYH3GF4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_NNFK3F5TYN4RCFRWNVPH?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[Scottie888]

36 minutes ago, SorenStarr said:

Put this knobby on and its feeling pretty good! Eats up the grass like it's nothing. I did thin the edges of the inside shell just a little bit. 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08YYH3GF4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_NNFK3F5TYN4RCFRWNVPH?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Nice that looks great for offroad. I think the reason why you had to shave off the shell is cos it is a 2.75.

I've been hummin & hawin about this tire. Its got a tighter (to my eyes) tread pattern than the pure dirt knobs but not quite like the Kenda k262 or Duro 307 dual sports.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B08SCCS1V9/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A16CYTN3L0RHD9&psc=1

[SorenStarr]

4 hours ago, Scottie888 said:

Nice that looks great for offroad. I think the reason why you had to shave off the shell is cos it is a 2.75.

Definitely agree. I also shaved down the side knobs on the tire a bit and now the tire doesn't seem to be rubbing much. Turning this mcm5 into my offroading single track wheel. This tire didnt feel to bad on the pavement either. Still very agile and responsive turning. 

[EUC Custom Power-Pads]

The CST-C183A 2.50-10 is really a awesome tire for offroad and it carves also good onroad. My daughter is happy with it. 😍

[mclarin89]

I just put this on: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08T77TVQQ

I installed it tubeless using a mten3 valve stem, had to grind the edge of the motor to make clearance.

Had to grind the body shell pretty much exactly like this post

Handles very good off-road.  On-road, the initial turn-in is very aggressive, almost unstable.  After a coupe dozen miles I got used to it but it might be annoying on a commuter.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o_0qgVY7mzRgKe7JI_5VeisHd8YxCSCQ/view

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oaj11yo-4GJyhRzLHwg92PpcdM8eCVtF/view

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oeKg1c5OcS7PifAwchKayJcszYCWmnh-/view

PS, does anyone know how to make these picture show up in the post?

Edited February 4, 2022 by mclarin89

[EMA]

i've now the stock tire in 3' wide size, but you need to mod the shell as described in the forum thread 

[BlueCrow]

On 2/4/2022 at 3:00 PM, mclarin89 said:

I just put this on: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08T77TVQQ

I installed it tubeless using a mten3 valve stem, had to grind the edge of the motor to make clearance.

Was the motor soft enough to grind with a filer by hand or did you use electrical tools? Got a link for those Mten3 valve stems?

Might eventually try this. Looks good.

[mclarin89]

On 4/3/2022 at 1:49 AM, BlueCrow said:

Was the motor soft enough to grind with a filer by hand or did you use electrical tools? Got a link for those Mten3 valve stems?

Might eventually try this. Looks good.

You can find the valve stems on ebay or amazon by searching "m365 valve stem".  I would get a 2 pack because I tore up the first one after I had to remove it because I didn't grind the motor deep enough. 

I used a dremel with 1/2in 120grit sanding drums.  Since I only removed aluminum and didn't go deep enough to hit the steel magnet ring, it only took about 10minutes of sanding.

I have about 800 miles on the tire now.  The center knobs have worn down more than the side knobs making the profile a little less round.  It is no longer super twitchy but that makes it a little harder to do sharp turns on pavement.  Off-road handling is still pretty much the same.

[Paul,]

Thanks for all the great info everyone, is everyone still happy with their tyre choices, is the road noise bearable? Seriously thinking about doing this, I love taking my wheel off road.

[Paul,]

I've installed a 2.75-10 shinko mc tyre with lots to grinding out the front and rear of the shell. 

https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/bK0biTicOeuH

[OldFartRides]

Against my better judgement, I bought a used mcm5v2. Don’t know why. I just couldn’t help myself. So now I’m thinking of putting a knobby on it. All the links in the thread are dead. There’s no good tear down vids. The v1 tear down vids suck !

Anyone still rockin one of these on a knobby ? Anyone ever go for a 3” wide knobby ? There’s one vid of one with a three inch tire, but I don’t think it’s a knobby.

[OldFartRides]

Couldn’t find my more recent thread, so I’m re booting this one…

Bought a Kenda K760 Trackmaster II (2.50-10) knobby for my buddy’s mcm5v2. I think I like it better than the Shinko 2.50-10 m/c 33j. 

Havent rode the Kenda yet, but it didn’t rub the wheel well, so didn’t have to raise the shell this time.They’re both 6ply, heavy tires. 
I’ve enjoyed riding the Shinko, tho. Perfectly fine tire.