dmpatanis Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) Becsuse i am new in hobby what is the tiltback function? Edited October 19, 2017 by Keith Corrected tildback to tiltback to improve understanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keith Posted October 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, dmpatanis said: Becsuse i am new in hobby what is the tildback function? I assume you mean “tiltback”? It has been discussed on a number of occasions that, if you continue to lean forward on a self balancing device - I.e. Segway or electric unicycle or anything else, it has to accelerate to keep you from falling on your face. I.e. the torque has to exactly match your weight pushing forward and that torque has to come from acceleration. Eventually the device will start to run out of torque ( power) to hold you upright and you WILL fall on your face. Well before that happens it has to try to “encourage” you to stop leaning forward. There are only three ways it can do that: Tiltback - start to lean the peddles backwards to encourage you to stop leaning forwards. It requires more torque to do this so it must do it well before you are going too fast. It is possible to still accelerate, but the more it tilts back the harder it gets to do so. Make a noise - beep or say “caution” or whatever. There is a danger you might not hear it or will ignore it. Vibration - to the best of my knowledge only Solowheel did that I.e. make the wheel motor vibrate to warn you. Of the above, only tiltback can really force you to slow down as it can eventually tilt back so far it is impossible to keep riding the wheel. Several wheels do this on low battery, eventually tilting back so far that you have to step off. Some people do not like it as, on some wheels, the tiltback can be aggressive enough to frighten the rider into falling off - thus defeating its use as a safety device. But if it is well implemented it is the safest way to stop the rider going too fast. EDIT: here is an example of low battery tiltback that @Jason McNeil of https://www.ewheels.com/ demonstrated : Edited October 18, 2017 by Keith 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmpatanis Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 Because i sm new i am looking to buy Gotway mcm3 but says not have tiltback function is that a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, dmpatanis said: Because i sm new i am looking to buy Gotway mcm3 but says not have tiltback function is that a problem? It is not adjustable on the MCm3.... but you get a “last warning beep” when a certain speed is reached! hou have to listen to that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmpatanis Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 Tiltback is a when we reached the maximum speed with unicycle?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, dmpatanis said: Tiltback is a when we reached the maximum speed with unicycle?? I think the beeps start first, then tiltback at the maximum speed. If there is no tiltback, listen for the beeps. Here is a short video, sorry it is in vertical frame mode. Edited October 19, 2017 by steve454 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, dmpatanis said: Tiltback is a when we reached the maximum speed with unicycle?? Not exactly, it warns when a certain speed or certain state of battery has been reached and on many wheels is configurable so you can be more conservative on how fast you go. However, as @KingSong69 has said, on the Gotway wheels it is set relatively slow so to go faster you have to turn it off and rely on beeps only. Many consider this potentially dangerous- I.e. you need to fully understand what you are doing and why if you choose to turn tiltback off. Edited October 19, 2017 by Keith 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoinPostal Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 On 10/19/2017 at 12:40 PM, dmpatanis said: Tiltback is a when we reached the maximum speed with unicycle?? Tilt back is the last safety you have. It engages when you reach max speed, when climbing with a depleted battery, when going downhill on a fully charged battery, when trying to get too many miles out of a dying battery etc. Do yourself a favor and buy KingSong, not Gotway to save your bones and your money. (Sorry Gotway fan boys) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmpatanis Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Which Kingsong suggest me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR BRAD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I have a grand total of an hour and half of EUC experience (IM V10). I’ve somehow managed to feel comfortable enough to abandon the railing I was using to learn how to make this ego crusher move and have even hit the tilt-back speed (16MPH is the initial setting it seems). I know the wheel CAN go faster and I know that if I increase the 16MPH limit on the app it won’t tilt back as I approach that speed. But, I also seem to be getting a tilt back of the wheel that persists beyond the speed limited setting. I know when I hit the limit (and get the “beep beep” sound that grabs everyone’s attention) and I can feel the wheel tilt rearward. However, I’ve noticed that occasionally the wheel will stay tilted back as though I’m dragging my heels (I’m not, I’m also not going near the speed limit, the battery is fully charged or charged well beyond the limit that will artificially slow me down). So... I’m wondering why the wheel tilts back like this. There doesn’t seem to be a reason so I must be doing something dumb or missing something with my riding style, which, of course is pretty non existent given my tenure on a wheel. Sorry for the dumb question... this sport (yes! Sport!!!) is amazing (so far!). Thanks in advance for any feedback!!!! Stay safe! - Bradley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atdlzpae Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 @MR BRAD You probably have your feet too far back. Try moving your feet forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 That tiltback shouldn't be there. Not an error you could be making (how would you even do that?) Try recalibrating the wheel, and if the mysterious tiltback persists, try to find out more when that appears. Maybe it's also a feature/bug of one of the ride modes? Try the different ride modes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR BRAD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I’ll try to pay more attention to my foot position. The weird thing is I think I’m too unsteady yet to move forward or rearward on the pedals yet while moving (as opposed to tipping forward / aft to speed up or slow / stop - which is coming pretty naturally, so far). What I mean is, at one moment I seem to be going pretty good and then it feels like my wheel wants to drop me off the back. I can hang and sometimes the sensation goes away, as if I’ve pushed through quicksand other times it becomes almost overwhelming and makes me feel like the wheel is defective (it’s brand new and I’m the only one who has beaten it up to date ... but I’m still impressed with myself! - 2 hours and counting!!!! ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR BRAD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: That tiltback shouldn't be there. Not an error you could be making (how would you even do that?) Try recalibrating the wheel, and if the mysterious tiltback persists, try to find out more when that appears. Maybe it's also a feature/bug of one of the ride modes? Try the different ride modes. Thank you @meepmeepmayer! I’ll try all of that - assuming I can figure out how to calibrate the wheel (is that something that generally needs to be or should need to be done on a brand new wheel?). It’s set to “comfort mode”. The other option is “classic mode”. I have no idea what the differences are?!? Nor do I understand how foot pedal sensitivity (which is another setting I noted in the app) affects the ride - guessing it adjusts how much “push” one has to apply to make the wheel react in acceleration or deceleration? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, MR BRAD said: Thank you @meepmeepmayer! I’ll try all of that - assuming I can figure out how to calibrate the wheel (is that something that generally needs to be or should need to be done on a brand new wheel?). No need to do it unless there is some pedal-levelness thing going on, just like in your case. It's somewhere in the app. I think it has instructions on how to do it (lean the wheel onto its shell and then calibrate). 36 minutes ago, MR BRAD said: It’s set to “comfort mode”. The other option is “classic mode”. I have no idea what the differences are?!? Comfort is a bit more sophisticated, classic is the old, simpler algorithm (I think). Can't hurt to see if your mysterious tiltback appears in both. 36 minutes ago, MR BRAD said: Nor do I understand how foot pedal sensitivity (which is another setting I noted in the app) affects the ride - guessing it adjusts how much “push” one has to apply to make the wheel react in acceleration or deceleration? That's how soft or hard the pedals react to your input. Either instantly and they stay rock-hard and level, or they are softer and have a bit more swing to them and everything is more relaxed. A matter of what you prefer. - As always, your seller can also help if your wheel has a (potential) problem) Edited November 12, 2019 by meepmeepmayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 By the way, learning takes a lot of time.It seems you're doing quite well. So don't be discouraged by these initial hickups or idiosyncrasies of the wheel or whatever is going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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