Philfree Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Good news ! See on their facebook page @1RadWerkstatt will sale a kit for upgrade the nb1 to 708 wh with 2 battery of 194WH with bms and 2 specials battery cover. They also make a custom battery pack of 388 wh with more secure bms : you can tell them more @1RadWerkstatt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I couldn't actually see it, but I have every confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1RadWerkstatt Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Here is the link: https://m.facebook.com/1radwerkstatt/photos/a.527062774101602.1073741829.527048414103038/691621034312441/?type=3&source=48 Translation over Facebook works? 1RadWerkstatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philfree Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 Translation works but nothing about the price ... Will you share pictures of the transformation with the new battery cover ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I just have ordered the 388Wh battery from 1RadWerkstatt - so I will share my opinion after I get it. Battery has proper BMS with balancing, while original battery does not, so I am counting on many more recharges without capacity reduction, lower chance of accidental switch off (I had one which ended with the fall on asphalt at around 15km/h but I was wearing knee, elbow and wrist protectors so no issues.. ) and the true 30+ km of range. ! Maybe "dual battery" will be the next step.. this solution can give HUGE range - close to 70 km!!! 1RadWerkstatt respond quickly and with professional knowledge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSport Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Lukasz said: I just have ordered the 388Wh battery from 1RadWerkstatt - so I will share my opinion after I get it. Battery has proper BMS with balancing, while original battery does not, so I am counting on many more recharges without capacity reduction, lower chance of accidental switch off (I had one which ended with the fall on asphalt at around 15km/h but I was wearing knee, elbow and wrist protectors so no issues.. ) and the true 30+ km of range. ! Maybe "dual battery" will be the next step.. this solution can give HUGE range - close to 70 km!!! 1RadWerkstatt respond quickly and with professional knowledge! What was the price of the 388Wh battery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philfree Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 On 10/5/2016 at 2:50 AM, Lukasz said: . Battery has proper BMS with balancing, while original battery does not, so I am counting on many more recharges without capacity reduction, lower chance of accidental switch off I have already read these arguments on the facebook pages of 1radwerkstatt . This claims must absolutly be demonstrated @1RadWerkstatt this sounds pretty serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahasiyam Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Nice ! @Lukasz Waiting for your feedback ! 70 kms is awesome Just a little pain for the feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 On 5/10/2016 at 5:00 AM, SuperSport said: What was the price of the 388Wh battery? Please contact 1Rad Werkstatt for details. luk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1RadWerkstatt Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 @Lukasz your e-Mail inbox is full i can not answer your messages.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupi99 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I bought the 388Wh battery last year. I can say, it was worth the money (ask 1RadWerkstatt@gmx.de for current price). My Ninebot C+ runs around 35…38km with this battery (my weight is 79kg). I never had an accidental shut off. On some eWheel tours other 9b1 users were amazedly looking on my battery status. I still had enough juice, where others already came close to the 20% border Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSport Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Only issue is getting them shipped to the US. Anyone know a way around that? By boat, or other method? I'd be happy to order now, but they don't know of a way to ship them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex K. Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 5 hours ago, rupi99 said: I bought the 388Wh battery last year. I can say, it was worth the money (ask 1RadWerkstatt@gmx.de for current price). My Ninebot C+ runs around 35…38km with this battery (my weight is 79kg). I never had an accidental shut off. On some eWheel tours other 9b1 users were amazedly looking on my battery status. I still had enough juice, where others already came close to the 20% border Do you have any photos of your upgraded ninebot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfrese Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I'd order one as well, if they could ship them. I asked on their Facebook page about getting one in the states, and they said they tried shipping to the U.S. twice without any success. It would be great if they could sell a kit with their BMS and instructions on how to build the battery. Or perhaps get a place like Batteries Plus to build one for you.There's got to be a way to do this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSport Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I contacted Batteries Plus and they said they would not allow their employees to build such a powerful and dangerous battery. No discussion at all, they just refused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jug Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 23 minutes ago, SuperSport said: I contacted Batteries Plus and they said they would not allow their employees to build such a powerful and dangerous battery. No discussion at all, they just refused. Just DIY battery pack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfrese Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 31 minutes ago, SuperSport said: I contacted Batteries Plus and they said they would not allow their employees to build such a powerful and dangerous battery. No discussion at all, they just refused. Wow, that really sucks. I guess I'll have to take @Jug's advice and DIY it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 A few comments regarding the 388Wh battery from 1Rad Werkstatt: + fast procurement and shipment time + delivery on Saturday ! + Nice transparent shrink on all parts (also wires) – good solution, easy to see / check for eventual issues. + App shows 28km range (on original battery it was 27km) + Easily visible increase in real range – my weight when dressed, with protectors and small backpack is around 90kg. I try to keep around 48-50 psi pressure in the tire. Regular battery allows around 20 km range to get into red zone (30% left) and maybe around 5 km reserve range. On this battery I have made 25 km in various terrain (include uphill/downhill, city cruise and stable high speed ride plus I am guessing around 10 km reserve. (I have made around 28 km trip, still with 25% battery left) + I have noticed slightly higher max short-term speed – 23,6 km/h (for very short time) – on the NB battery it was 23,1 km/h, + I think that the torque is higher as the voltage level of the battery seems to be more stiff. Generally speaking – I am happy with the performance and the gain. For now the range is more than enough for my (current) needs. Also - safety is the key issue - I have encountered the switch off on the original battery and I do not want it to happen again. (picture of the new battery removed due to the forum disk space limits) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahasiyam Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 @LukaszWait a minute, with this battery, you made 25 kms and there is 25% left ? so, it's about 35kms, max 40kms total ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I have made 28 km. with 25% left. (my total weight when I ride is around 90kg) Battery offer extra 20-25% more of your usual range, also cell deterioration will be slower due to proper BMS. For my usual trips I needed just a few kilometers more than the standard battery and I have it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Rider Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Wow, those packs look so clean!!! Nice work 1rad!!! If only we could figure out a way to ship to the US, you would have quite a few buyers over here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahasiyam Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 @Lukasz hum ok.. but it's pretty far away with the 70kms announced on FB. Even if there is a person less heavy, I don't think you can add 40kms additional.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Please read the FB page details. 40km range is with 1piece of 388Wh battery. To get the 70km range the setup is different - You need to replace side panels for more roomy ones custom made by 1Rad guys (around 15 mm thicker), and in this extra space there is enough room for another 388Wh battery (in fact two batteries 194Wh each - one goes together with regular battery on the right side, and next one goes on the left side with main board. This gives you 776Wh total, and I can ensure you that 70km+ range is 100% possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahasiyam Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Ok I see. I thought that the 70kms is with only 1 piece of 388Wh battery and the original battery. So it's 4x194Wh for that. Thanks for the infos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1RadWerkstatt Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Thanks for all positiv Feedback... Battery and Cover production start in short time.... For US...big packet with many Batterys to one person over sea? Anybody have a good idea? I will check UPS for Shipping Batterys to US or other AIR Zones... :-) Check FB for ne Pics: https://www.facebook.com/1radwerkstatt/ 1RadWerkstatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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