John Eucist Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 A bit later than some others did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I'll be interested to hear what you think of them John. Not keen on the Ninebot look myself and you know I've no use for the built in trolley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Eucist Posted April 13, 2016 Author Share Posted April 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, Gimlet said: I'll be interested to hear what you think of them John. Not keen on the Ninebot look myself and you know I've no use for the built in trolley! It's fricking 17 kg though. But I guess your Msuper is around that too. Yeah I'll be testing it as soon as it stops raining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Eucist Posted April 13, 2016 Author Share Posted April 13, 2016 First thing I have noticed (without riding it yet), which I don't think anyone mentioned yet, is that when in the riding position the left channel audio comes out the left side while the right channel audio comes out the right side (as it should be). On the KS14, however, the left channel comes out the back side and the right channel comes out the front side (not ideal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 2 hours ago, John Eucist said: A bit later than some others did. Is this your place John? Sure you got enough wheels for the season ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Oh dear John! I don't like the idea of a channel coming out of my backside!! Can't say I ever noticed it on my KS14 but I rarely bother playing music, probably only played it 2 or 3 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Eucist Posted April 13, 2016 Author Share Posted April 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Cloud said: Is this your place John? Sure you got enough wheels for the season ? Yeah this is my bedroom. You should see my living room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverH Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 10 hours ago, John Eucist said: A bit later than some others did. Is that the lab or production room? I wasn't aware that Kingsong is so small. How many can they build a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 They Even have Windows :-) on The photos from The Gotway Production i always just See One/two darf production Lines ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planetpapi Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I can not imagine a bigger facility for a small startup company like KingSong. Most likely they just assemble quality parts there and make it a final branded product. If they can produce 100 units a day, is that a good number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetricUSA Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 So who is making the 18a's? I'm still waiting for mine...EUR claimed it was in delivery three months ago...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lovell Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Well my KS16 arrived today as well after a circutious route via Ireland of all places after the shipper added it to the address!! Fully charged and ready to go.....tried to get the android app from Kingsong but can't read Chineese so got it from the dealer in France instead. Its rock steady to ride and not as noisy as I had been led to believe....acceleration is very gentle indeed......not tried any tricks yet as its still pristine. I am going to enjoy this wheel a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmethvin Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 14 hours ago, John Eucist said: It's fricking 17 kg though. But I guess your Msuper is around that too. Yeah I'll be testing it as soon as it stops raining. Wow, that's heavy for a 16 inch wheel! 2 hours ago, Planetpapi said: I can not imagine a bigger facility for a small startup company like KingSong. Most likely they just assemble quality parts there and make it a final branded product. If they can produce 100 units a day, is that a good number? Most "factories" for low-volume products aren't much more than a big room with folding tables, this one looks better than many I've seen. Given how many we see and people on the forum here, it seems unlikely that KS is selling a lot of units outside China. I would think that if they made 100 a day that would be a huge number and I doubt it's that big. They might have a bit of a surge to fill the backlog of KS16 orders but even then, how many of those do you think there are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Eucist Posted April 14, 2016 Author Share Posted April 14, 2016 6 hours ago, OliverH said: Is that the lab or production room? I wasn't aware that Kingsong is so small. How many can they build a day? It's their main production room. There are two rows but the camera only captured one. It's not small. eucs are not mass consumer items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUCMania Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Anyone in US got KS-16 shipped? Looks like KingSong has trouble sending EUCs to USA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverH Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 3 hours ago, John Eucist said: It's their main production room. There are two rows but the camera only captured one. It's not small. eucs are not mass consumer items. They're no volume products, because: - no one has a real business plan - no marketing plan - no processes in place - not sure if they've financial planing in place like we do it over here (must anyway be part of the business plan) - no manufacturer makes lobbying to get the street legal status => mass volume - no manufacturer potentially can cope the standard requirements has the necessary ISO9001:2015 certification With standards (basics for street legal) there will only be manufacturers left which aggressive design/ modify their products to cope with the requirements. With aggressive I mean instantly willing to do it. The calculation for the investment and ROI can and must be done by self. If a standard is available and regulations are in place we talk about 5-6 manufacturer be able to deliver products the products. As there will be companies not following this route we can imagine that 3-4 will meet the requirements in the mid term and 1-2 in short term. The company being first will have the primeur factor and will benefit at least one sales season (expanding sales volume, establishing the brand, build up sales network and get cash in). It's not about having the technology to join the game. It's the full package with company certification (quality/ service management) and product certification. The current companies need to get more maturity and become a small size automotive manufacturer. And than a production room like at Kingsong will become a lab room and production needs to move in bigger facilities with much more production capabilities and automation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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