EUC World 2.10 is out

[Chriull]

4 hours ago, Tawpie said:

Ah. Thank you, that’s what I have set now, but the plug turns itself off anyway.

Could be the "disable battery balancing" option enabled? This option has not disabling balancing - it means that the plug turns off/stops charging once power dissipation drops below afair 30W.

This could maybe override your disabled "disconnect on finish" and choosen "no limit" option?

Or this is related somehow with KS firmware behaviour?

Maybe something to be reported to @Seba?

4 hours ago, Tawpie said:

If I let my 16x sit in charger for 3 hours after green, it ends up at 83.9v, but when the HS110 cuts it off the post-charge voltage is 83.6. Probably not a problem

Definitely not a problem. That's just some last fraction of the capacity trickle charged into the battery.

At, for example https://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/LG 21700 M50 5000mAh (Grey) UK.html a real charge diagram is shown (as last diagram) as it should be for our li ion cells.

One see nicely how voltage settles a bit again after charging.

[Tawpie]

8 hours ago, Chriull said:

Could be the "disable battery balancing" option enabled?

lol. That's the one setting that's absolutely not enabled! The 83.9 and 83.6V (app readings) are after 2-3 hours of sitting there powered off after the charger was disconnected or unplugged by the HS110. It's pretty much the 'settled' voltage.

[Seba]

On 12/8/2021 at 4:02 AM, Tawpie said:

I must have missed it somewhere, but in v2.10, is there any way to set the length of time that charge control will keep the power on after the current draw has dropped below threshold? I’d like to stay on for 3 hours but can’t find a setting. TIA!

No, the balancing period is fixed at 1 hour. I will add an option to define shorter/longer balancing period in next release.

On 12/8/2021 at 4:53 AM, fbhb said:

@Tawpie I have 2.10.2 installed and just made these screenshots for you today, so the option is definitely there:

This doesn't control the balancing phase time. It's a security timer that is intended to terminate charging after predefined time, regardless of charging status.

[Chriull]

9 minutes ago, Seba said:

No, the balancing period is fixed at 1 hour.

Just to understand - EUC World recognices the transition fron CC to CV and adds an hour?

Or you realized this differently?

9 minutes ago, Seba said:

I will add an option to define shorter/longer balancing period in next release.

Personally I'd like very much to see some power limit ~~ charging current threshold again, as this regards the cell manufacturers datasheet specifications.

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Arggg. went to use eucw on my galaxy and its asking for logins again. Is there a way to shut off premium features, disable logging and be able to use eucw as a basic standalone that simply relays info?

Edited December 14, 2021 by ShanesPlanet

[RagingGrandpa]

On 12/9/2021 at 12:13 PM, Chriull said:

Just to understand - EUC World recognices the transition fron CC to CV and adds an hour?

I think I know the answer...

No.
EUC World considers charging "done" when the charger draws less than 30W. It does not know or care about the peak-power CC-CV transition.
If "disable balancing," it turns off 1 minute after 30W is reached.
If not "disable balancing," it turns off 60 minutes after 30W is reached.

At least, that's what I observed

[Tawpie]

4 hours ago, ShanesPlanet said:

Is there a way to shut off premium features, disable logging and be able to use eucw as a basic standalone that simply relays info

burner EUCW account? I don't remember if it asked for verification of the email when I created my account, but if it doesn't it seems like a totally bogus account could work.

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3 hours ago, Tawpie said:

burner EUCW account? I don't remember if it asked for verification of the email when I created my account, but if it doesn't it seems like a totally bogus account could work.

Im paid up as premium user for another year or more. I dont mind supporting developers, but I DO MIND having to be near wifi or logging in information on this tiny phone. Hell, Ill have to go find my cheat sheet with hundreds of stupid logins and passwords written in pencil.  This aint the first time eucw has made me relog over the last cpla yrs. It may have something to do with updates. Catch 22, you gotta verify login or devs can't track who's paid, I guess.

Edited December 15, 2021 by ShanesPlanet

[Seba]

7 hours ago, ShanesPlanet said:

Im paid up as premium user for another year or more. I dont mind supporting developers, but I DO MIND having to be near wifi or logging in information on this tiny phone. Hell, Ill have to go find my cheat sheet with hundreds of stupid logins and passwords written in pencil.  This aint the first time eucw has made me relog over the last cpla yrs. It may have something to do with updates. Catch 22, you gotta verify login or devs can't track who's paid, I guess.

EUC World uses several online services that needs authorization/authentication for obvious security reason - to protect users. Tour recording, data log storage, firmware updates, premium features or AVAS library are just examples of features requiring online access, and users are asking for another features like settings synchronization and backup or logging their stats and experience. To make things secure, authentication tokens needs to be regenerated periodically and this is why EUC World app needs to periodically contact EUC World server. If the app won't connect EUC World servers for a month, authentication tokens will expire and user will need to sign in. So to avoid this you just need to use the app at least once a month. Of course, make sure there's connection with cellular or WiFi network. My advice is to keep WiFi in your Lemfo enabled, as it won't drain the battery if you're outside of your home WiFi range.

[EMA]

website problem now ?

 

[Seba]

47 minutes ago, EMA said:

website problem now ?

I've been making some changes that caused API to be unavailable for some time, but now everything should be OK.

[EMA]

28 minutes ago, Seba said:

but now everything should be OK.

it's 

[Patrick Robert]

@Seba In this latest version, is there a way to view a list of the alarms that were triggered in the current / last ride? Is that info included in the log already?

Short of activating voice mode on alarms, it can be difficult to tell which alarms were actually triggered. It would be nice to have a quick place to look for them when riding or right after the ride. 

Edited December 17, 2021 by Patrick Robert

[Seba]

2 hours ago, Patrick Robert said:

@Seba In this latest version, is there a way to view a list of the alarms that were triggered in the current / last ride? Is that info included in the log already?

Short of activating voice mode on alarms, it can be difficult to tell which alarms were actually triggered. It would be nice to have a quick place to look for them when riding or right after the ride. 

Alarms are recorded both in tours and in data logs. In tours they are displayed as a dots at the corresponding chart and this is the easiest way to analyze where/when and what alarms has been raised. In data logs they are encoded into "alarm" field as a bit mask.

[Patrick Robert]

10 hours ago, Seba said:

In tours they are displayed as a dots at the corresponding chart and this is the easiest

Thanks for this! I got the details on an alarm on my last ride. It is easy, I just never noticed. Good old EUC World, lots of little gems hidden everywhere!

I did notice that the info on the graph doesn't appear to show the same value range for amperage and wattage on the tour graphs as compared to the app on the graph and stats pages during the ride. The app reports much higher numbers than in the tour. Is it only happening to me? Which one is right? 😕

Oh, and I would still love a "start with delay" feature for the charge control. For letting the wheel warm back up to room temp before charging, when riding in winter. A countdown timer display would be awesome! I would just hook everything up and start the timer, et voilà! Perhaps in an upcoming version, pretty please? 😁

[Seba]

1 hour ago, Patrick Robert said:

I did notice that the info on the graph doesn't appear to show the same value range for amperage and wattage on the tour graphs as compared to the app on the graph and stats pages during the ride. The app reports much higher numbers than in the tour. Is it only happening to me? Which one is right? 😕

This is because current and power values shown by the app are momentary values, while the same values on tour are averaged. I plan to add option of detailed tour data recording, that will also include min/max values so you won't miss any peaks or dips.

1 hour ago, Patrick Robert said:

Oh, and I would still love a "start with delay" feature for the charge control. For letting the wheel warm back up to room temp before charging, when riding in winter. A countdown timer display would be awesome! I would just hook everything up and start the timer, et voilà! Perhaps in an upcoming version, pretty please? 😁

It will be added in next version  Also there's a chance that TP-Link P110 will be supported, as an alternative to HS110 that is no longer manufactured.

[mozart]

The bike is KS 18 XL and android is 10, in the new version 2.12.0 the graphic battery level indicator does not work, has anyone else noticed the same?
 

 

Edited December 19, 2021 by mozart

[InfiniteWheelie]

Where is the iphone version?

[RagingGrandpa]

11 hours ago, InfiniteWheelie said:

Where is the iphone version?

In your dreams

Developing for a different OS is a lot of work. Painful work, if you personally don't enjoy the OS. EUC World is a pet project of a single EUC enthusiast; it's not a 'commercial product.' He's on Android, so it's on Android.

Android devices are cheap. Grab a wifi-only smarphone or tablet, and save your cellphone from risk of fumbles while riding.

[Tawpie]

13 hours ago, InfiniteWheelie said:

Where is the iphone version?

having a burner android also saves your iPhone battery so you can use it to... talk to people? You don't need a data plan to use EUCWorld on the burner, it'll sync your tour when you get back to Wifi, and if you want to share your tour live, you can tether the burner to your iPhone.

[Patrick Robert]

On 12/17/2021 at 11:17 PM, Patrick Robert said:

Oh, and I would still love a "start with delay" feature for the charge control. For letting the wheel warm back up to room temp before charging, when riding in winter. A countdown timer display would be awesome! I would just hook everything up and start the timer, et voilà! Perhaps in an upcoming version, pretty please? 😁

I just noticed that this feature is there in version 2.12.2, almost exactly as I imagined it, even down to the countdown timer! Works like a charm.

I set it up when I got back home this afternoon, and while I was having dinner I heard the Sherman beep and the chargers starting up. Very impressed.

Thanks so much @Seba! This is going to be *super* useful.