techyiam Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, Clem604 said: I'll bring a fast charger if I'm going really far. I really like to ride You may still need a fast charger, or augment your range with public transportation or your car, even with a big battery. After you have acclimatize with your new wheel, you may start to ride faster, and faster. Hard to say how things will unfold at the beginning. Also, when you say you ride across more than one cities, are you crossing any bridges? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post novazeus Posted January 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2023 the s22 charger weighs 2 pounds 12 oz. i doubt the v13 charger weighs much more than that. dawn probably carries more weight in her stuffed animals, but women are use to carry 50 pound purses. the most clever thing to do, is have friends to visit, and ask them if u can top off when u come over. their electric bill will go up, but urs will go down. it will take awhile before ur no longer welcome. just rotate friends. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem604 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, techyiam said: You may still need a fast charger, or augment your range with public transportation or your car, even with a big battery. After you have acclimatize with your new wheel, you may start to ride faster, and faster. Hard to say how things will unfold at the beginning. Also, when you say you ride across more than one cities, are you crossing any bridges? Yes this is true, I'll have to feel out the Sherman when I get it and go from there. Currently on my V11 I ride from North Van to downtown then do a big ride around the seawall and around Van then head back home. With the Sherman S I hope to do a North Van to Richmond or perhaps a NV to New West ride. Having a larger battery (for me) just opens up more possibilities for where I can explore. Edited January 11, 2023 by Clem604 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Josiah Posted January 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) As long as you combine this pack with a few sketchy components hooked up to a very expensive wheel, Range could be a non-issue. Provided you only travel west in the morning east in the afternoon and on clear days. But I’m guessing you cannot charge while riding anyway. Or you could stage one of these somewhere secret. On a more serious note it amazes me how fast these things change. Seems like when InMotion announced the V13 it had the biggest batteries on the market. Edited January 11, 2023 by Josiah 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Clem604 said: With the Sherman S I hope to do a North Van to Richmond or perhaps a NV to New West ride. Having a larger battery (for me) just opens up more possibilities for where I can explore. I suspect things are going change for you once you have become comfortable with big fast wheels. I don't know how much you travel on main roads currently, but once you get a faster wheel, you may start or do more of that. Once you start riding on roads, your speed will increase. I have only use the SkyTrain Pedestrian Bridge to get into Richmond, but with my Abrams, I am tempted to use the Arthur Lang Bridge. Have you seen anyone riding electric wheels crossing bridges yet (on the roadways, not sidewalk)? Edited January 11, 2023 by techyiam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem604 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, techyiam said: I suspect things are going change for you once you have become comfortable with big fast wheels. I don't know how much you travel on main roads currently, but once you get a faster wheel, you may start or do more of that. Once you start riding on roads, your speed will increase. I have only use the SkyTrain Pedestrian Bridge to get into Richmond, but with my Abrams, I am tempted to use the Arthur Lang Bridge. Have you seen anyone riding electric wheels crossing bridges yet (on the roadways, not sidewalk)? I've seen EUC's crossing the Lions Gate Bridge on the walkway/bike path but never on the road. I try to ride on bike paths and/or residential streets and I will only ride on the main roads if that is the only option. The Cambie bike bridge is great and I would only use that to get into Richmond. Riding in the middle of the Arthur Lang bridge, or any bridge for that matter, seems a bit sketchy to me. Edited January 11, 2023 by Clem604 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFZ Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Sounds like we're just asking for rules and boundaries to be set on EUC by non-riders. Which will eventually happen. It'll probably be similar to a scooter license. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Clem604 Posted January 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, DragonFZ said: Sounds like we're just asking for rules and boundaries to be set on EUC by non-riders. Which will eventually happen. It'll probably be similar to a scooter license. Agreed, I stay off main roads unless absolutely necessary plus I prefer riding bike paths and residential streets anyway. That way I can ride slower and enjoy the sights. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 39 minutes ago, Clem604 said: Agreed, I stay off main roads unless absolutely necessary plus I prefer riding bike paths and residential streets anyway. That way I can ride slower and enjoy the sights. Hmm. If that is the case, then there are many options open to you since your speed won't be that high. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, DragonFZ said: Sounds like we're just asking for rules and boundaries to be set on EUC by non-riders. That is inevitable. Rules will be made by grey men in grey suits who have long forgotten what it was to ride, if they ever knew at all, and fear everything new ! The argument / concept that more power = more safety headroom will almost certainly be lost on them, and a stupid low motor / power limit will be proposed which matches the profile of a 2005 Airwheel Edited January 11, 2023 by Cerbera 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josiah Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Cerbera said: That is inevitable. Rules will be made by grey men in grey suits who fear everything new ! Hard for them to monetize new things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 56 minutes ago, Josiah said: Hard for them to monetize new things. ..and yet I bet they will find a way !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem604 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, techyiam said: Hmm. If that is the case, then there are many options open to you since your speed won't be that high. Going slow + 3600WH = Big RANGE Energy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Clem604 said: Going slow + 3600WH = Big RANGE Energy Very true. Also, you don't need a 3500+ W motor, 134 V, etc. So the Sherman-S is actually a very good fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem604 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Just now, techyiam said: Very true. Also, you don't need a 3500+ W motor, 134 V, etc. So the Sherman-S is actually a very good fit. Yep, that was my line of thinking too. For the odd time I do have to be on the road I will appreciate having the torque and speed to safely keep up with traffic. I still really like the V13 after riding it and I wish I could afford to have both. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Clem604 said: I still really like the V13 after riding it and I wish I could afford to have both. Really. I have to try the V13 for sure now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem604 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, techyiam said: Really. I have to try the V13 for sure now. Admittedly, the V13 never appealed to me at all until I was able to experience it. In an ideal world I would have both those wheels (V13+SS) and either the EX30/Commander Pro for those times I want an adrenaline rush or death wish . Edited January 11, 2023 by Clem604 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 42 minutes ago, Clem604 said: Admittedly, the V13 never appealed to me at all until I was able to experience it. In an ideal world I would have both those wheels (V13+SS) Now, I am intrigued. What compels to want buy both if budget allows it, and just not one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrMonoWheel Posted January 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2023 I'm gonna have to find someone local with a V13 I can try out so I can actually speak from experience and not out of my ass 😁 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem604 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, techyiam said: What compels to want buy both if budget allows it, and just not one of them. More wheels = more fun but honestly I just like having options. Edited January 11, 2023 by Clem604 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, techyiam said: What compels to want buy both if budget allows it, and just not one of them. For me it's about backups. And that plan is already failing, in that if my Master breaks I want another one of those as backup, or a wheel of equivalent ride feel and power, not the tired old MS3 that is what I actually have as one ! If budget was unlimited I'd probably have a Master and a V13 if I could be convinced the latter wasn't too heavy for my weight class. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdomeek Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 12 hours ago, UPONIT said: As it is, I just don't get why 40-50 miles range is such an issue vs 60-70. How often do people ride for more than 50 miles without an opportunity to recharge? I am new to EUCs, so that is an honest question. I can't think of the use case. Not saying there isn't one. 25 mile commute each way, with no outlets at the destination? Different riding styles for different people in different cities with different traffic/road patterns. I have a 3200wh OG sherman, and there are plenty of weekend ride cruises that I can't do because of the lack of battery. And I'm not wasting my weekends sitting around an outlet to charge. Faster riding speeds mean more battery is needed. Imagine speeding up/down Marty's mountain road rides. Now imagine doing three of those mountains in a single ride (Cyclists do that in my city, they call it the 'triple crown') 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 41 minutes ago, Clem604 said: More wheels = more fun but honestly I just like having options. I get that, but why V13 for the second wheel, and not the Commander Pro, EX30 or something else instead? You must have like riding the V13. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Clem604 Posted January 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, techyiam said: You must have like riding the V13. This is pretty much it. I wish I could ride it more to really get to know the wheel. Maybe the nice guys @eevees would be kind enough to let me borrow it for a day to do some "research" Edited January 11, 2023 by Clem604 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KiwiMark Posted January 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2023 If I had a big lottery win and decided to treat myself to a 3rd wheel then I'd get a V13. My Sherman S will give me the range I need, but the V13 offers high speed with great stability and IP rated so dodgy weather wouldn't make me scared of causing damage to the wheel. My V12HT will be small enough for anything I want a smaller/lighter wheel for. The V13 would also make a good backup wheel for the Sherman S, with both able to go a decent speed and both having suspension - if one was needing repairs or waiting for parts (or whatever) then I could use the other one. Without a lottery win I will make do with the 2 wheels I will have once the ones on the way arrive and I sell the RS. I also have my e-MTB as a 3rd PEV option so it seems really unlikely that I would have nothing available to ride. I wish I didn't have to worry about the cost of things, but like most people it does matter to me - to buy both the Sherman S & the V13 seems like a lot of spending. I also sometimes spend money on things that aren't electric wheels, so I just can't justify spending so hugely on more e-wheels than I really need to own. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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