..... Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Kamikaze_K said: Mate it's been shy of a month and I'm yet to hear ANY updates. I've written to them on their site as well as two emails to them direct. Nothing. I'm starting to get a little worried and annoyed. I'll raise an issue with PayPal if I don't hear by the 6th June. Anyone know if the guy that runs Hulaj Market is a member on this forum? Don't feel special. The responses to my inquiry are beginning to take longer and longer. I'm heading into 6 months since I first inquired. Over 2 months since the time I was informed a set was waiting specifically for me. It was only a little over a month after, they finally took my money. Verification of payment via email was prompt. I inquired about it after paying and waiting 2+ weeks. An email got to me to tell me they were processing. Basically the end result is the same. Marketing got ahead of production and shipping details. It happens and theres ALWAYS going to be some excuse/problem, thats business. All I really know is that I still dont have a set. Edited May 30, 2021 by ShanesPlanet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbhb Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 @Kamikaze_K Sorry to hear you are still waiting to hear back regarding your order. As I stated previously my order took a month from when I had confirmation and a tracking number emailed through. If you still have not had heard anything back as yet, you could try messaging Pawel directly on Facebook at either: NylonNove or Paweł Gutkowski if you have not tried that avenue yet? I hope you get some clarification, but bear in mind that a one or even two month wait for EUC gear is unfortunately starting to become quite common lately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucka Wheelie Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, fbhb said: @Kamikaze_K Sorry to hear you are still waiting to hear back regarding your order. As I stated previously my order took a month from when I had confirmation and a tracking number emailed through. If you still have not had heard anything back as yet, you could try messaging Pawel directly on Facebook at either: NylonNove or Paweł Gutkowski if you have not tried that avenue yet? I hope you get some clarification, but bear in mind that a one or even two month wait for EUC gear is unfortunately starting to become quite common lately! I've just posted on the Nylonove FB page so lets see what their response is. I know they won't be able to do anything direct since Hulaj is a totally separate company but maybe Pawel could make some enquiries... It's also the matter of how much money that's already changed hands. If it was AUD$50 or so then no worries, I can wait longer but it's a LOT more than that unfortunately. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucka Wheelie Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Update: After a third email I've finally got a reply from Luke at Hulaj. Apparently they've been having trouble sending things outside the EU (only difficulty I've heard coming out of the EU was sending things into the UK in light of Brexit changes). ANYWAY... He tells me that it should be sent out in the next few days and I'll get it by next week. Will keep you all updated! Fingers crossed that all goes to plan. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chucka Wheelie Posted June 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2021 UPDATE 2: THEY FINALLY ARRIVED! So after over a month from ordering they finally reached my grubby mitts. Luke also chucked in bottom frame protectors and a pair of charge port covers as compensation for the delay which was very nice of him. I know people have waited around 4 weeks for their order and some more like @ShanesPlanet. I think my biggest gripe was the fact that there was no communication whatsoever apart from the initial order confirmation and I had to attempt contact multiple times through multiple channels. Which begs to wonder, if I hadn't even tried to make any contact, would I have gotten my order? I hope so as many have stated that Hulaj Market is legit. And they weren't cheap as many of you know. Also paying for UPS Express shipping also adds to that cost. Anyway, enough of me going on... I've installed them, and I'm loving them. Only a couple of rides in and I feel it's given me more foot stability which translates to better control. Still playing around with what pedal angles work best for me which will come in time. All in all, I'm glad and relieved it worked out. Will I order from Hulaj Market again? Maybe for little things but for bigger items like Pedals, maybe not. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ..... Posted June 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) Glad you got yours! Yeah, mine took 6 months and I harassed him (Pawel) weekly. To his credit, Pawel WAS good at repsonses. Hulaj market, not so much. I didnt get any charge port caps, but I print my own in fabulous colors anyhow and they are contoured. It sure would have been nice to get some allen wrenches with the pedals. I used a caliper to set the spikes evenly, as they were all different heights from factory. I set them same angle as stock pretty much. Theres a couple details that would have made the pedals better. HOwever, the entire buying experience was so poor, I wouldnt suggest it. If mine break, I doubt I'll bother rebuying. Great product, but it pains me to patron such a sh**ty business/sales model. I've reached out to ask if a set could be purchased for a friend of mine in usa. Its no suprise that I havent gotten a response in over a week. I fear now that the deal is done, I won't be entertained for even another moment. I dont care if its hulaj market or the creator thats the problem. Continually being put on hold for many months is unacceptable. To be quite honest, if they were'nt perfect, I was going to trash them, as it pains me to patron and advertise for such foolishness. Maybe Im just too demanding, and 6months wasnt much patience. Maybe its normal to be told theres a set waiting for you, and then they happen to simply disappear for months. Who knows? It could simply be that my reputation is getting around and people are avoiding me, as they probably should. Be sure to not overtighten them. If they are like mine, youll want to put some kind of protector as the end spikes are a bad point of contact on the shell. Im wondering what would happen when 80lbs falls on the pedal and its pressure is pin pointed on 4 spikes JUST outside the plastic recess? Im currently editting a vid of an offroad ride using the pedals. Good and good. They arent great with wet shoes, but what ya gna do? I had planned on doing a review and vid about them, but I'd rather not waste my time focusing on a product that is so hard to get. I damn sure won't be using hulaj market for anything in the near future. At any rate, I am just glad you got yours finally! As of note, stock angle with spikes and my feet stayed put. Its the spikes and not the material or angle. Knowing this, I'd imagine cheaper pedals with larger plates and spikes are damn near as good. The nylon itslef has NOTHING to do with how well they hold your feet. Edited June 17, 2021 by ShanesPlanet 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucka Wheelie Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, ShanesPlanet said: Be sure to not overtighten them. If they are like mine, youll want to put some kind of protector as the end spikes are a bad point of contact on the shell. Im wondering what would happen when 80lbs falls on the pedal and its pressure is pin pointed on 4 spikes JUST outside the plastic recess? Im currently editting a vid of an offroad ride using the pedals. Good and good. They arent great with wet shoes, but what ya gna do? I had planned on doing a review and vid about them, but I'd rather not waste my time focusing on a product that is so hard to get. I damn sure won't be using hulaj market for anything in the near future. At any rate, I am just glad you got yours finally! As of note, stock angle with spikes and my feet stayed put. Its the spikes and not the material or angle. Knowing this, I'd imagine cheaper pedals with larger plates and spikes are damn near as good. The nylon itslef has NOTHING to do with how well they hold your feet. Mate, you must have the patience of a saint. Hulaj Market tested my patience and I like to think I'm a patient guy! I agree, I don't think I'll be recommending them to any of my EUC buddies. Maybe the buying experience might be vastly different if we lived in Europe but well, we don't! Who knows... Yep, I've also found out about the studs making unwanted contact with the shell during installation. I've placed little pieces of soft velcro where the studs meet the plastic. I tried various ways but landed on the soft velcro side, which seemed to work best. Four points of contact overall, two on each side. I've tighten the contact studs down a little so the pedal sits more flush with the shell without the other studs making contact. This also allows for a better hold for the magnets. I'm the kind of guy that likes to keep everything pristine for as long as I can (which is a total pipe dream with EUCs I know). Keep us updated on your thought and tips regarding the pedals mate, happy riding! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellac Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) @ShanesPlanetSo I can’t tell if you like the pedals or not. You say great product but seems they aren’t holding your feet as well as you’d expect? I know it’s hard to divorce the pedals from that shitty buying experience but what do you think about the pedals forgetting all of that? Is your control improved too or about the same? Was thinking of getting a pair myself but now I’m thinking maybe the stock is fine. If it’s not broken, why fix it and all that. Edited June 17, 2021 by shellac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ..... Posted June 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kamikaze_K said: Mate, you must have the patience of a saint. Hulaj Market tested my patience and I like to think I'm a patient guy! I agree, I don't think I'll be recommending them to any of my EUC buddies. Maybe the buying experience might be vastly different if we lived in Europe but well, we don't! Who knows... Yep, I've also found out about the studs making unwanted contact with the shell during installation. I've placed little pieces of soft velcro where the studs meet the plastic. I tried various ways but landed on the soft velcro side, which seemed to work best. Four points of contact overall, two on each side. I've tighten the contact studs down a little so the pedal sits more flush with the shell without the other studs making contact. This also allows for a better hold for the magnets. I'm the kind of guy that likes to keep everything pristine for as long as I can (which is a total pipe dream with EUCs I know). Keep us updated on your thought and tips regarding the pedals mate, happy riding! Doesnt it just totally suck to find a GREAT quality product, only to have it undermined by the supply chain? I mean these things are TOP notch quality, and I dont say that much. My only gripes about the pedals is me being nitpicky. I tried lowering the front and rear most studs and it does let the pedal close flush. It also spreads the weight of closing on the shell, among more spikes. My pedals werent resting on the spikes at all, when I dropped the 4 outer most spikes. During a drop they would, but not at idle. I ended up raising the stauds back to 2mm like the rest. Theres not a TON of studs and when the shoes are wet, I'd rather have the front'/back ones up. I used plastic bits to protect my cover. I had some clear leftover for covering flaminco guitars and it seems to be fine. Once i crash the sherm tho, I wont care so much. Sadly, i havent knocked the new off the wheel yet. Here's my review. Ill drop it here, call it a done deal and avoid further effort or being a nuisance about it. Supply chain and reliable quick shipping.... Nope, not as of june 2021 to USA The materials all seem of top quality. The quality of the pedals and tight build spec, makes the sherman seem unfit to don them. Seriously, you see these pedals and you lose a lot more respect for the crap we call 'quality' eucs. I felt like I was betraying the pedals by putting them on the Sherman. Like setting up a super model with Danny Devitto for a blind date. It just doesnt seem a friendly thing to do... to her! The fit was on point. A thin spacer of nylon would have made them perfect, but its totally unneccessary. The only reason I even looked for a spacer (didnt find one), was because Im so used to having to rebuild or fix SOMETHING on EVERYTHING, I couldnt help myself. If the studs that grab shell had been 2-3mm further in and an assortment of spacers came with, I'd claim them as 'perfect'. Installing them and setting the angle was easy. It did take TWO allen wrenches of different size. One time use allens in the box, would have been an awesome touch. I found a few spikes to be 20% lower than others. None were loose, but anyone that is ocd, will want to use a caliper and set them all. EVERY screw and stud was a tight fit. I used an app to set them to 10degree angle. Having two screws on each side, you kind of have to eyeball it. I adjusted one screw until I hit my angle, then adjusted the other until it became greater by a hair. Once I noticed that, I backed it off a wee tiny bit. No mention of torque spec or if threadlocker need be used. I would think threadlocker would be a TERRIBLE idea, as I dont know how it reacts to nylon. Don't overtighten them, its nylon! The shafts/pins looked straight and of decent quality. I can say definitively that NONE of the eucs Ive had, came with metal pins of this quality. Basically, it seems no expense was spared in materials on these. The threads cut into the nylon are somewhat coarse. It takes very little turn to change spike height, pedal height, or tighten pins. Not a big deal, just something I noticed. I would set the studs and forget them. They all stay put very well, but i wouldnt want to adjust them 100 times and assume the same. Wet shoes feel odd on these. I agree with what VEE found about the heel slipping. I had wet shoes and went for a short ride. I immediately noticed my heel would slip in a turn. HOWEVER, my foot did not really become loose and the front spikes held solid. I think the movement is when I come up OFF the heel a little and twist. This makes sense, as theres no spikes in the middle and the nylon itself is slick. Heel spikes cant work if your shoe curves up in the back AND you lift weight off it. It causes a different sensation, but i really dont think my feet were gna come off, it just felt like it. Studs grabbing just the front portion of a shoe, the sole rubber will flex on them but not move. This flex seems greater at the heel, since its further from the actual contact/flex point. I continued to ride wet, and aside from being nervous about it, ZERO issue. They are larger and I immediately felt more control. I can now do a much smoother and faster 180 in the same lane. Pedal dip be damned, the nylonove really did increase my control. I like the stock pedals and was WAY surprised and happy to learn this. At 1 degree more than stock, it was MUCH harder to scrape pedal. Oh, I still can and do, but its so minor. It also feels the nylon slides better than chinesium, so a pedal hit doesnt grab at all. When you do scrape, it doesnt turn aluminum as theres no paint. I imagine you could scrape these things for thousands of miles and see little wear. The bottom shape is also curved well, and this helps ground clearance. I'll may look in to printing something to assist in opening (he's new versions with built in openers). Even tho they don't shut flush for the studs on shell, the magnets are pretty damn strong. Offroad was WAY better. I figured I'd slip less and with more control, ride better off-road. The pedals were like magic. Im editting a vid of my ride atm, and I truly cant recall my feet EVER moving or coming off the pedals. I expected to bounce around on them at times, as washboard and bumps just do that kind of thing. Somehow, even during lotsa bumps, my feet didnt come up. It was almost like I had foot locks installed, but didnt. It is a little harder to micromange your feet on spikes of course. However, it wasnt as bad as I figured and you really dont need offload the weight much to move the feet around. You will need to dismount with more vigor. No more lazily sliding the feet off the griptape as you put your foot down the last second. I ALMOST did the 'drunken biker trick' and simply fell over without putting my feet down. It only takes once to rectify that nonsense. All in all, a definite upgrade in every way possible. I have no further comments on the aspecs outside of the physical item itself. Edited June 17, 2021 by ShanesPlanet 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbhb Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, ShanesPlanet said: All in all, a definite upgrade in every way possible. Despite the anxiety of your massive wait to get these, I knew you would actually be very happy with them (even though we All know how hard you are to please!!!) with the difference they have already made and will continue to add towards the ultimate control/taming of the Sherm! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, fbhb said: Despite the anxiety of your massive wait to get these, I knew you would actually be very happy with them (even though we All know how hard you are to please!!!) with the difference they have already made and will continue to add towards the ultimate control/taming of the Sherm! They give me more confidence. THIS doesnt really mean they are much safer. It just means I'll be going faster.. I am nearly impossible to please. I am wholly biased about everything. The flip side is, if its equal bias, its no bias. I hope I differentiated between hardware and service properly. It makes me a little sad that it was so difficult to get. These would be my goto for suggesting to friends, but... well... you know. I implore Nylonove to get their production and shipping up to snuff for the usa. PLEASE, there's a lot of people that want quality and these would not disappoint. I feel badly for Pawel, as his product is being hampered by external factors. It may not be his fault, but I'm an ass. Other peoples problems don't sway my opinions. If you can get these pedals and enjoy paying for quality, do it! Edited June 17, 2021 by ShanesPlanet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbhb Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, ShanesPlanet said: I feel badly for Pawel, as his product is being hampered by external factors. It may not be his fault, but I'm an ass. Other peoples problems don't sway my opinions. If you can get these pedals and enjoy paying for quality, do it! From my understanding, it seems the issue in obtaining NyloNove pedals if overseas, as was also the case for myself, is really a luck of the draw scenario. If you are able to act extremely quickly when Pawel announces on Facebook that stocks are available at Hulaj, then you may just stand a chance of snagging a set within the first hour or so of his post! This is obviously Not ideal for the majority of us looking to pick these up and constantly checking whether Hulaj has them restocked or waiting to be alerted via email is also an issue. Those in Europe, where of course Pawel is based, are far more fortunate as there are actually sellers supplying EUC's with them fitted as standard/upgrade, as well as carrying stocks of the various models we struggle to find in stock at Hulaj Market. Daniel Kot at EUC Service (GotWay/Begode performance upgrade specialist) always seems to have stock available, but shipping is limited to Europe I believe: Accessories and parts – EUCservice Whatever it takes to get a hold of these pedals is inevitably a worthwhile endeavour IMHO, due to the quality construction and the greatly improved control they can add to any wheel with an option in NyloNove's ever increasing line-up! Edited June 17, 2021 by fbhb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 My initial thoughts on the pedals. I also was testing prototypes of ShanesPads. You may want to ffwd to very end if you're simply interested in review. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ek. Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Sorry to bump an old thread, but it's possible I have witnessed a miracle judging by previous posts... or I may be counting my chickens before they hatch. A couple of weeks ago—27 October—I was just sitting down to my computer to check emails before heading off to teach a class and I had an email from Hulaj market. I had signed up for S18 pedal restock email months ago just in case. I clicked through and they were indeed in stock. I went to class thinking "too expensive" and then chatted with my students about it. Went back to my office and they were still in stock so I bought them. After class I checked and they were out of stock again. Now I was worried they'd never arrive as per other experiences described here. I got the order confirmed email and everything. A few days later—2 November—an email to say they'd shipped! Still not getting my hopes up, and then delays on UPS tracking and so forth... but they seemed to be real and actually shipped. Today I check and they are stuck again. In Auckland! So according to UPS tracking, my S18 Nylonove pedals are in my country 97 days since I signed up for notifications of restock, 13 days since was notified they were in stock and bought them and only a week since they were sent. I'm not posting this to gloat I just wanted to add my experience to the mix as it's interesting how different it's been than those who posted last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 @Ek. I find it interesting that we are HAPPY about 90 days+ wait. They are great pedals but man does it shine some light on how patient we can be for quality. Oddly, this patience doesnt seem to translate over into how people drive their cars. Let us know how you like them, I still enjoy mine and have long since gotten over how long it took to get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ek. Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ShanesPlanet said: @Ek. I find it interesting that we are HAPPY about 90 days+ wait. They are great pedals but man does it shine some light on how patient we can be for quality. Oddly, this patience doesnt seem to translate over into how people drive their cars. Let us know how you like them, I still enjoy mine and have long since gotten over how long it took to get them. Only two weeks wait since the restock, but yeah over three months since I decided I was interested. I'll keep you posted! Edit: I think I'm a patient driver. But I'm not normal. Edited November 9, 2021 by Ek. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ek. Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 They’re here! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlitos Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 After months of unanswered questions and being out of stock since forever, last night I was able to order a set of pedals with angle adjustments and overlays for my MSX. The shipping within EU was a little over €40 within the EU and most likely they won't arrive on time for Christmas but it'll be great to have them now that the heavy snow season is well in. Also, a tip for those buying from outside of Poland: the website is Polish and so the prices are listed in Polish złoty. When you check out with your credit card, the payment gateway will offer you to charge you directly in Euros. Do not accept this option as their exchange rate is bad and they also charge you an ~8% commission for doing the exchange (€306 with my bank vs. €320 with the gateway). I'll keep y'all posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_x01 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) Have just received mine (in NZ) in less than a week after ordering. But those are Clark Pedals, not Nylonove: https://clarkpads.com/collections/clark-pedals Not very good communication with them though - lazy short and vague answers to email-questions in 2-3 days after sending a question. But shipping itself was quick enough... Edited December 23, 2021 by Jim_x01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeforester Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Just for possible interest, I recently bought a set of Nylonove xl non-adjustable pedals, the refit weight using titanium axle rods will come in at 754grammes for the pair (ie 377grammes per side); the weight of the (CNC alloy) pedals I replaced was over 1,100g more than this, so the change results in a significant reduction in all-up weight of the machine. I already have a pair of their adjustable xl pedals on my other wheel, and of course I’ve no hesitation in recommending these to anyone looking for a serious upgrade to their principal points of contact between rider and wheel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazybones99 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 I’m considering these for my Sherman max. Does anyone know if there are still long delays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonman Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 All I'm seeing is everything out of stock. I wasn't that much of a fan but now they have changed a few things I didn't like I want another set. I guess I'll have to go with Clark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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