Duster Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 4 hours ago, Rawnei said: Of course it's loose in this context since it's resting on one suspension leg, what's your point? I second this. That wobbling is the design of the SS, Patton, and Lynx. It's like unscrewing one bolt that holds a tire on a motorcycle and saying, "see, it wobbles." In the attempt to confidently identify looseness, or anything that resembles it, one must factor not only whether the screws are properly tightened, but the tire pressure, the tire tread pattern, tire wear, pad setup, the lean angle, and even the terrain. Granted, one could control for only a few of those variables and suggest an average estimate for the others and be able to say "the Lynx feels a little looser than another wheel, given the same tire, psi, etc." However, most of the perspectives lack even the details about which tires were mounted on which "loose" or "tight" Lynx. I trust each rider's experience is accurate. And I still want to read more detail before I could come to any conclusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frolic0415 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Which model is this？ [ia7ggvir6iad1].mp4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkyu Kyu Kyu Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 A wheel from the future? Really? 4x suspension is not innovative enough to call it futuristic. Expectations were way higher for a wheel from the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Interesting battery configuration: (1) Veteran Lynx: 36 cells x 4P =>151.2 V, 2700 Wh (2) Kingsong F22: 37 cells x 4P => 155.4 V, 2738 Wh Suspension Travel: 90 mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZT-Colorado Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 seems like a "Lynx alternative" not a "Lynx killer". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 In the video, Kingsong makes the following claims. My guess is that it's making a reference to its own S22 Pro, or the Veteran Lynx: (1) Faster Speed (2) Super Bright Light (3) Better Suspension (4) Bigger battery (5) Stronger Motor If it is the latter, then maybe it can claim to be Lynx Killer? If the F22 can outperform the Lynx in a meaningful way, I would be interested. I wonder if they can also claim to have a higher chassis stiffness than the Lynx too. In any case, the proof will be in the pudding, so we patiently wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 1 hour ago, Duster said: In the attempt to confidently identify looseness, or anything that resembles it, one must factor not only whether the screws are properly tightened, but the tire pressure, the tire tread pattern, tire wear, pad setup, the lean angle, and even the terrain. By that, you mean "play" and deflection due to lack of structural rigidity? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkyu Kyu Kyu Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Interesting wheel.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litewave Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Let's hope it doesn't take a year to ship like the S22 did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Looks like an even more Chinese Lynx.. Jesus those tail lights what are they thinking? Did they hire Homer Simpsons as a design consultant on this project? I don't see weight being listed anywhere? I dunno about this one, I get a bit of a potato feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 6 minutes ago, Rawnei said: I don't see weight being listed anywhere? I dunno about this one, I get a bit of a potato feeling. I have been having that feeling since 2020 year.. Also don't be like me.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 (edited) I like it's but-cheek rear light doh! That's innovation right there, if i ever seen one. People who cried about bad rear lights should be happy now. You get two full moons worth. And a brick on top of it. Edited July 4 by Funky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PourUC Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 On 7/3/2024 at 12:00 PM, US69 said: Knowing KS quite a while (6-7 years) they always had their problems with high voltage wheels. Perhaps thats, and because of Jasons extreme pressure, they were the only companyreducing voltage again (S19, S16). Begode and Inmotion both continue to produce wheels of varying voltage. A2, T4, Mten, Falcon & V11y and V10f (still produced). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniVehje Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 How are they ever hoping to get these legally classified with those tail lights. I like the USB ports. I actually miss them and would have use for them. Otherwise seems like more numbers game, one-upping the Lynx in meaningless numbers. Not tempted but only real test ride matters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahan Seer Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 16 minutes ago, UniVehje said: How are they ever hoping to get these legally classified with those tail lights. They say in the blurb it has customisable lights, did they ever give the option to go red on the backlight on the S22? Not holding my breath. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punxatawneyjoe Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 I remember when the v13 came out and everyone and their brother was making fun of the 3024wh battery. Haven't heard a peep on these last 5 wheels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahan Seer Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 We got the DIY power pad option often asked for. Nice to have USB back. Has potential to be either amazing... or not. I quite like it still looks like a toy, keeps the old bill off my back. This might be a good all-rounder wheel for me and the New Leaperkim for distance. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punxatawneyjoe Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 If this is supposed to be a high speed wheel, i don't know why they put a 14" tire on it. The one down side to my v14 is the small tire diameter, it makes it squirly over the road at speed. I much prefer the 16" v13 tire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duster Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 3 hours ago, techyiam said: By that, you mean "play" and deflection due to lack of structural rigidity? Yes. And when you say "deflection" you must know that tires have that variable too? So, testing play between two wheels is not accurate when one has, say, a Michelin street tire vs an aggressive off-road tire. The sidewalls are different, which creates difference in tire deflection. And that's not even including how the contact patches are different, how their treads react to turning differently, their different profiles... To attribute difference in ride feel solely to "it's got poor construction" without at least testing the influence of tires (among other variables, like tightening screws), with a small sample size to boot, is to make a bad faith conclusion. Or, at least, one with poor structural integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PourUC Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 5 minutes ago, Punxatawneyjoe said: If this is supposed to be a high speed wheel, i don't know why they put a 14" tire on it. The one down side to my v14 is the small tire diameter, it makes it squirly over the road at speed. I much prefer the 16" v13 tire. It's a 14" rim. That's the same as marketed as 18" and 20" wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 (edited) It looks solidly built. I wish they didn't put those gimmicky tail lights on it though. I don't know what it is with KS in that they make all their lights this way. Other than that, 5K motor, pretty good battery size, it looks solidly built, etc. I am curious what the trolley would be like since I always feel like its a weak point on EUCs that I've had (except the CP). Guess it doesn't matter though as I'm not buying another EUC for a long, long, long time... waterproofing is also a huge plus for me, but not sure if this thing has it. I also like how the ergonomics are, especially that there are no parts sticking out if a crash occurs it would break them +1 Edited July 4 by BKW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahan Seer Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Things to watch out for: Bolt and Motor bolt durability/strength. Correct voltage of Mosfets >200V Waterproofing batteries/shrink-wrapped? Motherboard Charge ports, buttons and motor wire waterproofness? Integrity of bodywork/Handle? Weight. Room for tyre options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litewave Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 (edited) I would add to that "ease of disassembly." The S22 is relatively easy except many of the bolts are easy to strip or bend. Edited July 4 by litewave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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