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168v Begode Super Master Pro?


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I need Begode to hurry up and get this thing out there into the light so I can figure out if I actually want it! If they don't hurry I'm going to have to buckle down and mod the heck out of my EX30 to turn it into an ultra long-range cruiser... There are tons of rides I've wanted to do for years out in the middle of nowhere (no chance to charge) that this kind of wheel would actually enable me to do!

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4 hours ago, Arbolest said:

I need Begode to hurry up and get this thing out there into the light so I can figure out if I actually want it! If they don't hurry I'm going to have to buckle down and mod the heck out of my EX30 to turn it into an ultra long-range cruiser... There are tons of rides I've wanted to do for years out in the middle of nowhere (no chance to charge) that this kind of wheel would actually enable me to do!

There are 10 days of national holiday at present in China. Therefore, we have to wait until the end of February to get latest news, however, I am sure this new wheel will be released this year.

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On 2/5/2024 at 12:31 PM, Arbolest said:

I need Begode to hurry up and get this thing out there into the light so I can figure out if I actually want it! If they don't hurry I'm going to have to buckle down and mod the heck out of my EX30 to turn it into an ultra long-range cruiser... There are tons of rides I've wanted to do for years out in the middle of nowhere (no chance to charge) that this kind of wheel would actually enable me to do!

If it is in the middle of nowhere you could drive there with a car first and pre-position/hide a gas generator

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On 2/5/2024 at 11:31 AM, Arbolest said:

I need Begode to hurry up and get this thing out there into the light so I can figure out if I actually want it! If they don't hurry I'm going to have to buckle down and mod the heck out of my EX30 to turn it into an ultra long-range cruiser... There are tons of rides I've wanted to do for years out in the middle of nowhere (no chance to charge) that this kind of wheel would actually enable me to do!

I'm coming up with ways of charging/discharging using MPPT solar charge controllers, you may be interested.

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2 hours ago, Greg X said:

Sounds like they are making my dream EUC, but of course instead of making it perfect they have to use an inferior cell...

I don't understand that decision since this wheel will be the most expensive, with the highest sustainable performance... The people willing to buy something this expensive would prefer to pay extra for better cells.
For now I'm intrigued and will wait around to see what they come up with before settling on a 168V wheel.

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2 hours ago, null said:

If it’s 6000Wh I suppose 50E cells should deliver enough power for the intended use.

Is there such a thing as too much overhead, when it comes to safety?

I'd want to use this EUC to haul a lot of equipment, so for me every bit of power towards safety would be well worth the money... But I suppose you are correct when it comes to how most people would use this EUC.

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The main limit on 50e is the regen (and in turn recharging), I've overpowered several times unexpectedly while braking. You dont have the same headroom while braking as you do accelerating imo. Having a 6kwh pack will negate a lot of 50e s downsides but why compromise when 50s can be used.

That being said a aftermarket molicel p50b 6kwh pack would be a game changer as it could safely charge at 3 phase ac ev chargers at max load (usually maxing out at 22kw where I live, but pack can take 30kw). Would need a custom charger etc but that would be a incentive to move up to the minimum voltage ev DC fast chargers use......

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4 hours ago, RagingGrandpa said:

When there's radio silence on a new model for 3 whole months... presume the manufacturer went another direction?

I'm certainly excited to see what wheels we'll see next from Gotway, it feels like it's been ages since they announced a new wheel (compared to the usual two per month) 

I hope they don't scrap the super high battery capacity concept. 

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If it ain't waterproof, I ain't buying it. Imagine spending $5k+ on a car but being unable to drive it if it *might* rain. "rain anxiety" now that B[S]MP solved "range anxiety" :-P

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It makes sense for Begode to make a beyond 4000WH battery wheel of 168 voltage since Begode had not yet announced a large battery wheel with higher voltage after LeaperKim announced Shreman L.

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Let’s calculate the possibility of the battery spec.

4.2V*40 =168V

3.7V/3.75V * 5A* 6P* 40= 4440WH/4500WH

3.7V/3.75V* 5A* 8P* 40= 5920WH/6000WH

 

 

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Welp... 2-3 days have come and gone and no announcement yet.

That's egg on my face, I guess. Sorry for getting anyone's hopes up. My hopes were dashed as well that the announcement didn't come yet also.

Rest assured that a 168v Begode long range wheel is still coming, and soon.

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11 hours ago, Arbolest said:

Welp... in the meantime, I still have my 6000wh EX30, so life is good :efee6b18f3:

:wub: Is there more information on this thing somewhere? (Sorry for Offtopic but wow!)

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21 minutes ago, Arbolest said:

Absolutely!

Wow, a dream, both the wheel and your tour example:wub::wub::wub: Be sure to have backup water and communications if you were to break down far away from civilization, because you definitely can get there with this wheel! Glorious!

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That looks really professionally done, very nice. Nothing I could use though. The way I ride (cruising at 16-18mph) my legs and feet would quit way, wayyy before the battery was empty. Even the 3.600Wh battery of my EX20 is already more than enough for me. I rode 120km once and still had like 30% of the battery left at the end of the day.

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On 8/14/2024 at 5:22 PM, YCC said:

The name is not called super master pro.

I just got confirmation from a primary source that this EUC is still coming and is still actively being developed. 6000wh, 168v, built on the ET Max chassis (more or less), but extra fat, as all touring wheels should be. I don't know what the name of it is, but "super master pro" is just a placeholder name since it's better than nothing. :) 

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