The Brahan Seer Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) So now that all the manufacturers are producing 126-134V wheels what are the odds Begode will be releasing a 168V wheel very shortly? That would certainly put a cat amongst the pigeons. Edited August 3, 2023 by RagingGrandpa (clarified title) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robse Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 31 minutes ago, The Brahan Seer said: So now that all the manufacturers are producing 126-134V wheels what are the odds Begode will be releasing a 168V wheel very shortly? That would certainly put a cat amongst the pigeons. it's also about time, no new wheels from Begone in 3 weeks? c'mon, people are getting bored and in frustration writing bad jokes..😋.. why not 201.6 volts? lets see, but packs will be heavy 🙄 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 60-70kg wheels? Please no. Edited July 14, 2023 by Funky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robse Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, Funky said: 60-70kg wheels? Please no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Robse said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem604 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Funky said: How about a 100kg 400V wheel?? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Clem604 said: How about a 100kg 400V wheel?? I hope that 100kg 400V wheel can fly... Then maybe yes? (By fly - i mean literally fly.. Not to ride on ground.) Edited July 14, 2023 by Funky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) Well this is useful isn't it ? Yes, no, yes, no, yes, and now this thread is yet another meme dump ! It would be good if people laid out their reasons for the yes or no-ness... What does more voltage get us, other than heavier ? Do we need actually more speed and torque than we already have ? I would argue on the no side, primarily because wind and drag agree with me, but would be interested to read the reasons to the contrary... Edited July 14, 2023 by Cerbera 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Cerbera said: Well this is useful isn't it ? Yes, no, yes, no, yes, and now this thread is yet another meme dump ! It would be good if people laid out their reasons for the yes or no-ness... What does more voltage get us, other than heavier ? Do we need actually more speed and torque than we already have ? I would argue on the no side, primarily because wind and drag agree with me, but would be interested to read the reasons to the contrary... Yes. You already said. Aside from more efficient motors. There are no real gains. I don't want more heavy wheels. Simply for more range and more speed, which are useless anyways. Riding everyday for 200km on EUC? Get a car... Edited July 14, 2023 by Funky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem604 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Cerbera said: Yes, no, yes, no, yes, and now this thread is yet another meme dump ! Moar speed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robse Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 i have a sincere wish to see where the voltage race end. I remember my first electric screwdriver (to assemble PC), it was 3.6 volt and did its job .. slowly but steady. Nevertheless, 3 months later it was already next gen and 7.2 volt, and what a speed, really this upgrade cut the computer assembly time by 20% . The price was a heavier tool. I am pretty sure Begode will come up with something 168 volts soon. Not because anyone need it, but because they can do it 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahan Seer Posted July 14, 2023 Author Share Posted July 14, 2023 54 minutes ago, Cerbera said: Do we need actually more speed and torque than we already have ? Not these exclusively but a powerful enough wheel that can never be over leaned is the holy grail imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanman Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 As long as people want to go faster I think we will see more cells put in series. 40S is certainly doable. Do people want to go faster than 55mph though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanman Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, The Brahan Seer said: powerful enough wheel that can never be over leaned will not exist in a begode, all wheels can be overleaned near the top speed, only way to prevent this is to enforce tiltback significantly before actual top speed which begode won't do. Edited July 14, 2023 by chanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mango Posted July 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2023 168v to help prevent cutouts and go faster. Can always add an extra wheel to accomplish both. Add two more, and boom, no need to balance and no learning curve needed to ride! You're welcome. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 If they can put 220v in a simple object such as a wall surely they should be able to put 220v in a much more advanced eletronical device such as a wheel, it's not rocket science we're talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpong Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 mango, wouldnt it be refining the firmware that will prevent cutouts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rawnei Posted July 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, bpong said: mango, wouldnt it be refining the firmware that will prevent cutouts ? I think the only viable solution for that is electrical shocks to the rider to stop them from overleaning. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpong Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, chanman said: As long as people want to go faster I think we will see more cells put in series. 40S is certainly doable. Do people want to go faster than 55mph though? i would think riders would want to eliminate or have more explicit control over how cutouts are initiated, ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahan Seer Posted July 14, 2023 Author Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, chanman said: all wheels can be overleaned near the top speed Not when the top speed is only limited by wind resistance and physically being able to stay on the wheel rather than lack of power. It will happen soon enough. We are not far from it. May take new battery tech which is a couple of years away. Maybe a little longer. I won't want to go that fast and most don't but never needing to worry about hard acceleration, wind, inclines or battery level sounds very nice. Even if you don't go over 40Mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robse Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, chanman said: will not exist in a begode, all wheels can be overleaned near the top speed, only way to prevent this is to enforce tiltback significantly before actual top speed which begode won't do. if you produce a wheel with a top speed so high that it will be impossible to reach that speed, then one of the cutout possibilities is eliminated. Btw, how fast will it ever be possible to ride an EUC? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahan Seer Posted July 14, 2023 Author Share Posted July 14, 2023 Watching the Paton reviews folk can still easily overpower them with hard acceleration. It would be nice to eliminate this totally on all wheels. Thats all i'm saying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) And here MY BIG ASS 280lbs riding 18xl without any problems.. Most people need to lay back and stop accelerating so fast. Even if you make wheels 2/3x times more powerful. Give anyone enough power and they still will overpower them. Do most start their ride going 1-30mph speeds fast as possible? Edited July 14, 2023 by Funky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 168v+ gets into fairly serious high voltage handling skills. A belt off a 100v wheel isn't exactly pleasant by any means. Given most people struggle to change a tyre, I would suggest removing a top cover should be done with a lot of caution. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Planemo said: 168v+ gets into fairly serious high voltage handling skills. A belt off a 100v wheel isn't exactly pleasant by any means. Given most people struggle to change a tyre, I would suggest removing a top cover should be done with a lot of caution. How hard is not to touch "live" wires.. And not cross streams.. Also most (at least good design) have a plastic connector protecting pins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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