Popular Post RagingGrandpa Posted October 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) A historical record, just for fun: 2011: World-Firsts Retail EUC Solowheel 16" 2012: World-Firsts Competitor Brand IPS 2013: World-Firsts 25kph rated speed Rockwheel LFP battery IPS X3 2014: World-Firsts 40kph rated speed Gotway MSuper 18"-class tire Gotway MSuper 2015: World-Firsts (none) (Gotway MCM2,3,4; KS14C; Inmo V5; IPS Lhotz; Ninebot One E,P; Solowheel Xtreme) 2016: World-Firsts 84V system Inmotion V5F; Gotway ACM >1kWh battery Gotway ACM 1600wh >2kWh battery Gotway Monster 2400wh 45kph rated speed Gotway Monster 22"-class tire Gotway Monster 2017: World-Firsts 100V system Gotway Monster 100V 60kph rated speed Gotway Monster 100V 2018: World-Firsts 3"-wide tire Gotway MSuperX 4"-wide tire Ninebot One Z 2019: World-Firsts 21700-size cell Gotway Nikola+ 2020: World-Firsts Suspension system Inmotion V11 Bolted axle ("hollow motor") Inmotion V11 70kph rated speed Veteran Sherman >3kWh battery Veteran Sherman 2021: World-Firsts 24"-class tire Begode Monster Pro 80kph rated speed Veteran Abrams 2022: World-Firsts 126V system Kingsong S22 134V system Begode Master >4kWh battery Begode Master Pro 4800wh 2023: World-Firsts 90kph rated speed Inmotion V13 151V system Veteran Lynx 2024: World-Firsts 168V system ExtremeBull Commander GT Pro 100kph rated speed TBD (V13 Pro?) 6kWh battery TBD (Begod SuperMasterPro?) Unclaimed Firsts 1 G linear acceleration (incl. rider) TBD 5kWh battery TBD 100kWh/kg energy density (fully assembled) TBD Edited January 24 by RagingGrandpa added unclaimed 6 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) This is focused on major performance topics and not small features... And I usually make mistakes, so please point them out On 1/3/2021 at 1:00 PM, houseofjob said: Depends on your definition of "first EUC" 1st EUC (non-self balancing, seated) | 1930's hand and pedal powered, seated monowheels date back to the 19th century, but the addition of electric power dates back to the 1930's 1st EUC (self balancing, seated) | 2004 as you surmised, the 2001 Dean Kaman / Segway gyroscopic innovation first unlocked the possibility of electric self-balancing unicycles, but the earliest reported was one made in 2004 by Trevor Blackwell of Anybots / Y-Combinator fame. 1st Commercially Available EUC (self balancing, seated) | 2009 the first commercially available seated EUC was the focus designs SBU (v1), invented by founder Daniel Wood and released in 2009. 1st EUC (self balancing, seatless) | 2011 in 2011, Inventist releases the original SoloWheel, by founder Shane Chen. Edited November 1, 2023 by RagingGrandpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enaon Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) v11 hollow motor, s18 frame heatsink, z10 smart bms Edited October 7, 2022 by enaon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Nice list! Z10 also gets the price for the first (and last?) 4+ inch tire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robse Posted October 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2022 Don't know if this is completely of topic but: 2022: The year with the most new wheels on the market with the most catastrophic design errors, failures, cutouts and recalls..... 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeforester Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 10 hours ago, Robse said: Don't know if this is completely of topic but: 2022: The year with the most new wheels on the market with the most catastrophic design errors, failures, cutouts and recalls..... Yep, the ‘progress line’ fell off a steep embankment and seems to be still bouncing somewhat… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plentora Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I would add following: - first wheel that has active cell balancing and monitoring (an actual BMS) - first wheel that can handle pouring rain - first wheel that COULD be street legal in EU - first Begode wheel which is not overloading the battery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, plentora said: I would add following: - first wheel that has active cell balancing and monitoring (an actual BMS) Doesn't exist yet though. (Active balancing I mean.) 16 minutes ago, plentora said: - first wheel that can handle pouring rain I think the first ones were better on this. The IPS Lhotz for example had the controller in a separate aluminium box. 16 minutes ago, plentora said: - first wheel that COULD be street legal in EU Again, all the old sub 25km/h wheels were. 16 minutes ago, plentora said: - first Begode wheel which is not overloading the battery I don't think that exists either... Or it should also be "the last GW wheel that didn't allow overloading the battery". Edited October 9, 2022 by mrelwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plentora Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 hours ago, mrelwood said: Again, all the old sub 25km/h wheels were. Maybe then add "last wheel that could have been EU compatible" ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 On 10/7/2022 at 7:16 PM, enaon said: z10 smart bms Kingsong called their BMS already smart before. KS16B/C if i rember right. Afair cell monitoring was introduced with the Ninebot One S1/2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enaon Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Chriull said: Kingsong called their BMS already smart before. KS16B/C if i rember right. Afair cell monitoring was introduced with the Ninebot One S1/2? correct, "smart" is used by many, cell monitoring is what I want I didn't know about the s2, I played with one some time back, could not find cell monitoring, was it a hidden feature like on their scooters in the early days ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, enaon said: correct, "smart" is used by many, cell monitoring is what I want I didn't know about the s2, I played with one some time back, could not find cell monitoring, was it a hidden feature like on their scooters in the early days ? Imho yes - a third party app was needed - ninebattery. This functionality was "taken over" to wheellog as ninebattery was not updated to newer android versions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twongEUC Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 The Ninebot One S2 cell monitoring displays on the EUC World app, too. If you keep scrolling down on the battery/main board information tab, you will find it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enaon Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) thanks, I will test it when get the chance, cell monitoring is something I really appreciate. You took me back and I remembered rockwheel, the gr16 was the first(and only?) with gears inside the motor. I also found this pictue in this forum, it seems they were the first to patent hollow motor as well? where they affiliated with kingsong? I know they were using the exact same BT protocol, a rockwheel works with a ks client. Edited October 9, 2022 by enaon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enaon Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, twongEUC said: The Ninebot One S2 cell monitoring displays on the EUC World app, too. If you keep scrolling down on the battery/main board information tab, you will find it. I miss ninebot even more now, they had to compete with "who cares" gotway, it was unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 On 10/6/2022 at 6:34 PM, RagingGrandpa said: Unclaimed Firsts 100kph rated speed TBD Approaching quickly with the 151V Leaperkim and 168V ExtremeBull imminent... I think the "world first" title should be earned by the first model that ships to paying customers, stay tuned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robse Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 On 10/8/2022 at 9:49 PM, Robse said: Don't know if this is completely of topic but: 2022: The year with the most new wheels on the market with the most catastrophic design errors, failures, cutouts and recalls..... How time miles passes, one year ago my own comment - and know, has 2023 been any better so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 I think 2023's been great! We reached new heights of torque and speed; fires are unheard of with new models; fork-type suspension has proven itself... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) The 100kph title is getting tricky... Lynx comes close, but it beeps at 93kph, and no vendor has been willing to label it 100kph. Will keep an eye out for changes with newer firmwares. And we have EX30 riders achieving 97kph, but at the dippy dangerous edge of control. Certainly not a "cruising" speed. Commander Pro 50S (for 2024) is advertised 100kph, but lists freespin at just 120kph: same as Sherm-S; lower than EX30 and Lynx. Hmm, let's see the beep speed when production units ship. Edited December 21, 2023 by RagingGrandpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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