Hellkitten Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 https://t.me/EUCVancouver/13538 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rebeuc Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 This is an odd video, allegedly Inmotion requested that resellers not send Chooch an eval v13: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyss Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, rebeuc said: This is an odd video, allegedly Inmotion requested that resellers not send Chooch an eval v13: I wouldn't send him one either. He's banned from the main Facebook group for a reason. Finished watching Dennis hagovs review. Having doubts again about it especially the comments about slow speed control. About 60% of my commute is on a bike path so I'd be doing about 30kph. If it's too unstable then I wouldn't able to use it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Is there more to the story than what Chooch is stating in the video? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, rebeuc said: This is an odd video, allegedly Inmotion requested that resellers not send Chooch an eval v13: It might not be as dark and Machiavellian as he imagines. They may just have looked at the size and weight of the guy and thought - he is not heavy enough to show this machine has decent acceleration and braking ! I have noticed that the V13 seems to take a very long time to start and stop unless the person riding it is a proper unit ! I have similar issues on the Master, which is itself slightly too heavy for my weight, so I too would also be a hopeless V13 demo guy... Edited January 9, 2023 by Cerbera 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, Cerbera said: is a proper unit ! nothing to do with the thread, i just like this phrae and will add it to my expressions when i can properly use it! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Cerbera said: I have noticed that the V13 seems to take a very long time to start and stop IMO, in one of the earlier videos, Dawn Champion accelerated and braked well on Marty's V13 demo unit. And she is 5'4". According to Marty, she is not big nor heavy. Marty said in his next video, Dawn will say more. She will compare the V13 to the Master Pro too. Personally, I would like to see Madpack, and Chooch to give a review on the V13 too. Maybe Denis Hagov bought his own V13 unit to test, if not, then it isn't logical since Hagov publicly denounced electric wheels that are over 40 kg in weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, techyiam said: Maybe Denis Hagov bought his own V13 unit to test, if not, then it isn't logical since Hagov publicly denounced electric wheels that are over 40 kg in weight. Yeah I saw Dawn's video, and to me it looked like she was struggling to brake, 'testing the motor' or otherwise. I have been surprised to see numerous demo guys holding onto that handle and having to hang at scary angles off the back of the machine to get it to brake in reasonable time from the high speed action. I mean it's perfectly understandable - something that heavy and with a wheel radius that large IS gonna take a while to respond to extreme inputs ! Nothing wrong with it, but the heavy guys will probably make it look more responsive. Denis is pretty solid, no disrespect to him - I bet he can move a V13 no problem ! Edited January 9, 2023 by Cerbera 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, techyiam said: Maybe Denis Hagov bought his own V13 unit to test Denis Hagov might be an EUC dealer. https://electro.club/euc/eucsale_com_e_shop_of_the_electric_personal_transport Our founder is Denis Hagov. A video blogger who reviews personal electric vehicles. Expert in choosing EUC, electric scooter, e-bike and gyroscooters.We know everything about electric transport!Contact the specified contacts for selecting transport:)Website: https://eucsale.com/ Email: eucsale@gmail.com or by phone: +37061118899 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Paul A said: Denis Hagov might be an EUC dealer. Not might. He is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Cerbera said: the heavy guys will probably make it look more responsive. Hagov said his riding weight is 110 kg. (242 lbs.). So he is not light. Yet he complained about the V13 not being responsive. I am going to wait to hear what Marty and Dawn has to say in Marty's next video. EEVEES is holding a V13 demo tomorrow. So maybe some of them can share their opinions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, techyiam said: Yet he complained about the V13 not being responsive. Lols - Yeah I said MORE responsive, not necessarily responsive Not that I think that epic acceleration and fast braking from high speed matters that much unless you plan to use this wheel for racing - as long as you are aware of its characteristics you can probably ride reasonably safely within them. The thing that I found most interesting about Dawn's video particularly was that she still had to do the extreme braking lean almost right to the full stop - I would have expected it could stop with much less effort from much slower speeds, and that didn't seem to be the case... Edited January 9, 2023 by Cerbera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cerbera said: Lols - Yeah I said MORE responsive, not necessarily responsive @Clem604 will tell us after tomorrow's V13 demo ride. 🙂 Actually, it may not rain during tomorrow's demo ride. Hmmm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Eyss said: He's banned from the main Facebook group for a reason. Just not a very good reason if his side of the story is to be believed... But anyway, not to derail anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFartRides Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 hours ago, rebeuc said: This is an odd video, allegedly Inmotion requested that resellers not send Chooch an eval v13: The shortest fall you ever take in life is from hero to zero. Happens in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, OldFartRides said: The shortest fall you ever take in life is from hero to zero. Happens in a heartbeat. ya, especially nowadays. no sense of humor, moral indignation, etc. i was raised, "sticks and stones will break my bones( maybe tear off a toe) but words will never hurt me!" and "fuck 'em if they can't take a joke!" and "don't get ur panties in a wad!" i love dave chappelle! fyi In Florida, assault and battery are defined as follows: Assault is an intentional physical or verbal threat against another person that causes fear of harm. Battery is when there is unwanted, direct physical contact or touching against another person's will that causes bodily harm. Edited January 9, 2023 by novazeus 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebeuc Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Coming up at 2PM EST today (Jan 9 2023) Dawn is going to have a livestream about her thoughts on the v13 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post techyiam Posted January 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2023 There you have it. Dawn doesn't have problems accelerating nor braking with the V13. Not so with the Master Pro. She bought a Master Pro, and promptly sold it. She said she was also happy with the maneuverability of the V13. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rebeuc Posted January 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, rebeuc said: Coming up at 2PM EST today (Jan 9 2023) Dawn is going to have a livestream about her thoughts on the v13 Very positive overall Some takeaways from my notes while watching: She really likes the wheel, one of her top favorites Max speed starts dropping at around 80% battery but still stays very high (closer to 50mph rather than 55) While doing speed tests and gathering footage she got 38 miles on the odometer with 20% battery still left Using the front rails as a parking stand leads to scratches; put some sort of a cork or mastic protector over it app settings were confusing; pedal softness is actually referring to pedal hardness (so 100% is hard and 0% is soft), and when doing firmware update 'keep wheel upright' means to lay it on its side or front braking and acceleration assist work great, but only enable one or the other or it can lead to confusing behavior when switching between the two for delicate maneuvers They broke the metal rod in the suspension rebound adjustment; sounds very similar to what we have heard from others, this may be the big 'batch 1 issue' The pedals are good, but she wishes the spikes were taller so there is room for improvement The sherman s felt tiny compared to this master could out-accelerate v13, but v13 felt much safer Marty is getting the commander pro for testing TODAY (not in a few weeks as originally expected) she has a sherman-s on order, but stated that in the few test rides she has done on that model she did not fall in love with it, but needs more time master pro she decided to sell immediately v13 she fell in love with immediately Grizzla Flow pads vs Clark Titan, it was close, but after lots of testing she likes the clark titans better She is sending the wheel on to the next reviewer, so can no longer test things with it One time she saw an issue (after her 2nd time out with it) and saw a charger error (including error on the display) after leaving it to charge overnight, and it only charged to 98%. After letting it sit for a while the error on the display cleared and no further issues with charging since that time (even with a fast charger at 14 amps since then) V13 is a beautiful wheel (you can ride it and the general public will be impressed) price 'sucks' weight is high, but the way it is managed is great wheel is tall, but it is a comfortable height because of how slim it was performance is amazing, it handles everything very well, no complaints on performance customizable settings are amazing grab handle up top is awesome; little side rails are useful to hold her emergency bag for longer rides 6 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Denis Hagov has a riding weight of 242 lbs. And he is not a small person. Dawn Champion is 5'4" and said the weight of the V12 is close to her body weight. And their first impressions of the V13 are diametrically opposite. She, a small and light rider, feels the big and heavy V13 does everything well. On the hand, Denis Hagov, a big and heavy rider, feels the big and heavy V13, is ponderous and not responsive. How can that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paul g Posted January 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, techyiam said: Denis Hagov has a riding weight of 242 lbs. And he is not a small person. Dawn Champion is 5'4" and said the weight of the V12 is close to her body weight. And their first impressions of the V13 are diametrically opposite. She, a small and light rider, feels the big and heavy V13 does everything well. On the hand, Denis Hagov, a big and heavy rider, feels the big and heavy V13, is ponderous and not responsive. How can that be? It is called subjectivity 🙂, and it sucks 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul g Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 8 hours ago, rebeuc said: This is an odd video, allegedly Inmotion requested that resellers not send Chooch an eval v13: That’s an overreaction from Inmotion. He has corrected him self about that video and he has, many times, genuinely, praised both the V12 HS and HT. What InMotion, Begode, (etc.) gonna do next, will they request Adam- WrongWay, Kuji, etc. not have the next test wheels because they can criticise them?? I would not buy their wheels anyway until reviewed by trusted people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstuart Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, Paul g said: That’s an overreaction from Inmotion. He has corrected him self about that video and he has, many times, genuinely, praised both the V12 HS and HT. What InMotion, Begode, (etc.) gonna do next, will they request Adam- WrongWay, Kuji, etc. not have the next test wheels because they can criticise them?? I would not buy their wheels anyway until reviewed by trusted people. What?! That guy was the biggest v12HT fanboy on the planet. This doesn't make sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) inmotion hopefully builds good safe wheels, i’m taking a gamble on them again after the v10f recall when they sent me back somebody else’s banged up wheel. i mean wtf. management at inmotion is pretty stupid. i made them refund my money after that bs. unbelievable! so i’m sure they are mad at me too. i was a ambassador for them before that. chinese companies aren’t the smartest in customer service or marketing, haha, what an understatement. but they can build shit cheaper than anybody except maybe vietnamese. walmart made china. home depot etc. my companies motto was, “attention to detail” which means being considerate. no unreachable valve stems and shit like that. Edited January 9, 2023 by novazeus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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